P413 Season 13 2031 mini-whale league

[chazzycat]

you can't get an error on a ball out of your range...

[joehart]

Originally Posted by max venerabel

Yeah I really and struggling understanding this, as well. Is it my pitching staff? I look at my defense v.s. other teams, and it seems like it should stack up really well --- but it doesn't.

I want to say that this is probably one of the big reasons...
Train and move Trout to LF instead of CF and you get a huge jump in his stats.

I kept trying to be the highest in my league for any given rating but I think it is more important to focus on the results that you want (target a positive rating instead of a ranking vs. others).


I like the old soccer philosophy (Kevin Keagan)….just score more goals than the other team. It applies to our league. Some teams can score against anyone and do well all up.

[Frithy]

Originally Posted by Zorro

As I sit here my wife is composing this because I cannot write. I want to thank everyone for the kind words for me to get better. It really cheered me up. You all have become a big part of my life and I thank you for this. What happen is I had a procedure for my back. It was a complete success and my friend who owns a bar closed it for that afternoon and had friends come to celebrate. Well I was still under the influence of the medicine they numbed me with and after doing a few shots and a couple of Vodka tonics I got Dizzy and fell with no control at all of my body. “Down goes Frazier” or in this case down went Zorro. Thank God I broke nothing but as of today I still cannot write or stand correctly or watch all my games. (Which kills me because I want complete control.) I just wanted to share this with you because you have all become family with me. Like my wife always tells me, I am so blessed with good friends and now I consider our group also a big part of my life. I will be a little saddened when 20 comes out (Allthough Friends And wife have donated some nice bucks to get a good start in 20. Pedro money.lol.) But we have something special here that now we know how to do it we could have kept it up forever. 20 Will be easier for me to win (Thats for sure) but I will always remember the struggles I had winning here. I thought I was pretty good until I joined this group . I am better now because of all I have learned from you guys in the last few seasons. I never had a problem in the reg Whale leagues because there were only a couple teams I had to adjust to. In this league EVERY series I have to adjust to. Again thank you my friends for your concern. This is a wonderful set of people and I am so proud you have aloud me to be a part of it. My wife says she has almost had enough of this writing so off I go to try and figure out how to beat you all. She has to also set things up as I tell her and she does not like sports at all so I am lucky she is a good friend and wife to do this.😁

Hey Zorro- Sorry to hear about your ordeal. I've been tending to my father with a similar situation although he's quite a bit older, he's pushing 80 and stubborn as hell, quite a handful!

Wish you a speedy recovery- They built you old bastids like tanks so I'm sure you'll be okay. (No offense with the "old" crack- much respect for my previous generations- I'm just a bit of a wise-ass)

[Orcin]

So for the best overall defense, i.e. run prevention, who would you play at shortstop? I am leaning toward B with A or C as the utility infielder, but I would sure appreciate your opinions.

Shortstop A




Shortstop B




Shortstop C




"It doesn't matter" is certainly an acceptable response also. Thanks in advance for your input.

[chazzycat]

I would generally take range over error rating, but these are very tiny differences. It probably doesn't matter much.

[Abnerdoubleday]

This league sure is humbling

[sharpk23]

Anyone able to provide an update on standings? stuck at work all day and wondering how things are looking. Thanks

[Orcin]

Thanks for the reminder.

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by joehart

I made the mistake to believe the positional rating would also translate into very few errors.


Example:
Simmons may have a higher SS defensive rating (103) than Ozzie Smith (93) at SS but I often see him with 15+ errors/season.
In comparison, Ozzie is closer to just 8 errors/season.

Ozzie error rating is almost 20 points higher (93 vs. 73).

So to get the fewest errors, it is best to just look at the error rating and not focus on the highest possible positional rating.

Positional rating seems to have the highest correlation with Zone rating results (Simmons has 12+ /season vs. 5+ for Ozzie Smith) and efficiency.

Fewest errors should not be the goal for defense. The goal is to make the most outs. Someone with great range might make more errors than someone with bad range, but he's getting a whole lot more guys out.

[zrog2000]

This is one of those things that typical OOTP PT variability does not explain.

[Dunzie]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

This is one of those things that typical OOTP PT variability does not explain.

Confused switch hitter who is mixing up the side he should hit from?

[Orcin]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

This is one of those things that typical OOTP PT variability does not explain.

Gavvy Cravath?

[Orcin]

Here's another thing that random variability does not explain... at least I don't understand it. Markus probably looks at this and says, "Working as intended." By the way, 2028-2031 is in this league, so pretty much same competition. What has happened to him in the past two years? My park hasn't changed that much. It really makes me wonder again if morale is really turned off in PT.

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Orcin

Gavvy Cravath?

Vern Stephens. Always hits 30-40 HR. On pace for 9 this season, 95 games into it.

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Orcin

Here's another thing that random variability does not explain... at least I don't understand it. Markus probably looks at this and says, "Working as intended." By the way, 2028-2031 is in this league, so pretty much same competition. What has happened to him in the past two years? My park hasn't changed that much. It really makes me wonder again if morale is really turned off in PT.

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BABIP can vary quite a bit season to season and that's what it looks like to me. Can you show those numbers?

Stephens ISO should not be .098 with 86 power in a 1.1 HR park. He better have one of those ridiculous runs soon.

[Orcin]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

BABIP can vary quite a bit season to season and that's what it looks like to me. Can you show those numbers?

Yes, the BABIP was .290-.310 every year (best year was higher) until the past two years at .256 last year and .240 this year. But why?

[Abnerdoubleday]

I suppose this is possible

[Orcin]

According to Fangraphs, three factors effect BABIP: defense, luck, and talent level. It can't be due to defense because the league BABIP is forced to the same number every year. It can't be talent level because it is the same player. Therefore, it must be luck. But I just spent four pages arguing with people in the "pitcher inconsistency" thread when I said the variable performance was due to luck and they said I was wrong. I am really confused.

[Abnerdoubleday]

Originally Posted by Orcin

It really makes me wonder again if morale is really turned off in PT

Bingo!

[daves]

Originally Posted by Orcin

Thanks for the reminder.


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When you win some you lose some. When you lose some, you lose 8 straight and having a losing record! Boy this game is streaky.