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Old 08-18-2016, 01:00 AM   #141
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I agree totally. I uninstalled all this and a previous version of Ootp from my Steam library, did a disc clean up, defraged the hard drive, and will not having anything more to do with this franchise. It is not worth the headache putting up with company Napoleons who get their rocks off dividing the users into groups of right and wrong, or playing the "you deserve the issues you have" card. I enjoyed fully being a part of the Ootp community, until this thread came about.

This is all on you Rchw, and your siamese twin.
Oh well.

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Old 08-18-2016, 01:05 AM   #142
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:14 AM   #143
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:24 AM   #144
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The elitism of this entire forum is pretty funny to witness.
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:36 AM   #145
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I think the negativity is not good for the game or developers, yet it seems the people doing it don't care


While OOTP posts "we're #1" with the current version of their game http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...we-re-1-a.html when you actually look at the metacritic link while it is true they are tied for #1 out of 193 based on 8 reviewer reviews, among users they're tied for #183 out of 193 based on 173 user reviews!


Assuming the game really is good, the explanation for such poor user reviews likely connects to the board negativity IMO; you'd think those that supposedly support they game/developers so much would realize how damaging what they do is.....
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:58 AM   #146
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Time for closure...

Perhaps it is time to close this thread? Seems to be caught in an infinite loop
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:02 AM   #147
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Perhaps it is time to close this thread? Seems to be caught in an infinite loop
So are you saying the horse is dead
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:34 AM   #148
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I agree totally. I uninstalled all this and a previous version of Ootp from my Steam library, did a disc clean up, defraged the hard drive, and will not having anything more to do with this franchise. It is not worth the headache putting up with company Napoleons who get their rocks off dividing the users into groups of right and wrong, or playing the "you deserve the issues you have" card. I enjoyed fully being a part of the Ootp community, until this thread came about.

This is all on you Rchw, and your siamese twin.
I wouldn't blame the OOTP folks for the people who are defending the game and blaming the patch bugs on the consumers. Most of the defenders are long-time users who have loved this game for years and years, so you have to understand that their vision is clouded by that.

I'm on the fence about all these problems, probably because I haven't actually purchased 17 because the new features did not intrigue me. I will admit the problems with patches have kept me from buying 17 over the past month or so. BUT, I am confident OOTP is working to fix the problems that have been introduced. That's the company's standard business practice, and it's rare in the sports gaming world.

On the other hand, I think the criticism you and others have brought forth is healthy for the game. By commanding a better product, the consumers put pressure on the company to provide a better product. Matt has already said there will be changes to how they test patches before releasing them. That's called progress, and it's a good thing.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:10 AM   #149
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where can i have the latest roster update
coz andrew miller and beltran still in yankees

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Old 08-18-2016, 11:13 AM   #150
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where can i have the latest roster update
coz andrew miller and beltran still in yankees

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probably not until the next update, most likely Sept. if past history holds.
You can manually move them in commish mode ..... just a thought.
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Perhaps it is time to close this thread? Seems to be caught in an infinite loop
We cannot really close the thread when there are still major bugs in the game...

No, you're right, let us just forget about those and stop this fighting. God forbid people argue and demand a better product.
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:02 PM   #152
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I thought you left?
So why write behind my back then?

It's cowards like yourself that only fuel my inspiration further into actions that will in the end result in having a negative effect of the company's bottom line.
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:11 PM   #153
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I agree totally. I uninstalled all this and a previous version of Ootp from my Steam library, did a disc clean up, defraged the hard drive, and will not having anything more to do with this franchise. It is not worth the headache putting up with company Napoleons who get their rocks off dividing the users into groups of right and wrong, or playing the "you deserve the issues you have" card. I enjoyed fully being a part of the Ootp community, until this thread came about.

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Old 08-18-2016, 01:22 PM   #156
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I wouldn't blame the OOTP folks for the people who are defending the game and blaming the patch bugs on the consumers. Most of the defenders are long-time users who have loved this game for years and years, so you have to understand that their vision is clouded by that.
I shortened your quote and a thumbs up for what you say throughout. This whole thread has evolved into a real mess not by any one spontaneous comment but the direction of the debate(s) as a whole. If I'm wrong, SORRY! Million times over. But a thread that begins with an update that has caused all this ill feeling is not just available for download still, but in fact comes with a recommendation for us to install, well that practice is in my view wrong. Some that have contributed to this thread should not have it both ways when it comes to pointing fingers as to whom should be to blame for the in-game issues due to that particular patch, nor question as to why they could possibly be upset for being blamed in the first place. It is those that were blamed unfairly that I stood up for.

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All right. To each his own. Enough's been said, I think. New patch won't be that long, and we'll take plenty of time to test it, so it's been said. If that delays it further, you'll know why. Blame won't get us anywhere, and there's really no right or wrong on this. What it is, it is. We wait. It gets fixed, and hopefully ALL is good. Every one of you is valued. We're a team with all the variety of personality traits, and we can't turn them off. We are who we are.

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All right. To each his own. Enough's been said, I think. New patch won't be that long, and we'll take plenty of time to test it, so it's been said. If that delays it further, you'll know why. Blame won't get us anywhere, and there's really no right or wrong on this. What it is, it is. We wait. It gets fixed, and hopefully ALL is good. Every one of you is valued. We're a team with all the variety of personality traits, and we can't turn them off. We are who we are.

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About the D/L Manager - not for gamers at all... it's for people with crappy connections that cannot complete a download. you can pick them up where they failed. so, when ootp fails half way through, you start half way through when you reconnect or it will automatically do it while you sleep etc etc whatver, i avoid them like the plague.

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All Steam's fault huh?.
if that's what you read... humility was what i was trying to get across. the fact that we paint ourselves into most corners.

pbreen, it's only your fault if you've seen something similar in past years and didn't learn from it.

"punishment" should cause the behaviour it resulted from to occur less often. (a specific psychology term, not common vernacular "punish"). We are all less likely to update immediately, now

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i saw something blaming Rich... rabble rabble rabble, it's all rich's fault. we only treat each other with repect out of sheer spite. no, ya, it's a happy equillibrium not unlike mr. burns on the simpson having every illness known to man and THAT is what gave him immortality.

(not making fun of the writer, in case that's not obvious. i realize it was an off-the-cuff comment, too. and rich and i don't hate each other, lol.)

and i'd like to thank the people that got super angry and made this all possible. it was truly fun to read.
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