Please post issues in the real roster sets here! - Page 8

injury log · 03-20-2015, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwisenberg

Remove:
Rhiner Cruz - released 6/2/14 per milb.com

Cruz was released to play in Japan. Just checked wikipedia and there it says he still pitches for Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles.

Lukas Berger · 03-20-2015, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Freddy Galvis is wildly overrated offensively. The game is showing him as a 75 potential ... I've never heard anyone regard his bat as highly as you do.

Agreed, fixed. Wasn't his bat so much as everything else being high and the bat being a bit too ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Cody Asche seems a bit high, too.

Made a very slight tweak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Cesar Hernandez is a 2B does not have the throwing arm you show; he has put in some time at SS and 3B, but he's very marginal there.

His arm is 115. Pretty marginal, nothing special at all. Lowered it a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Jeanmar Gomez is nowhere near making the major league team.

Considering that he's just played three full years in the majors and done well, I'd say that might not be entirely accurate.

He looks fine here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Aaron Nola is probably a bit lower potential and higher actual than you have him; he's usually described as 1) having mid-rotation potential and 2) being ready by midseason this year.

Possible, but it's very much a matter of opinion. I tweaked his current ratings slightly, but am leaving his potentials alone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Mario Hollands, PJ Walters and Ethan Martin are RP, Severino Gonzalez, Elvis Araujo and Colin Klevan are SP. Make those changes and other prospects should move up to proper level.

Hollands has started his whole career, except last year in MLB. Not going to classify him as an RP only just yet.

Walters has started his whole career, he's not an RP at all.

Adjusted Martin.

The three others are all SP's in game. If the game used them as RP's that's an ai thing, not something we can control.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Odubel Herrera, Joely Rodriguez, Elvis Araujo, Jiandido Tromp, Jose Pujols, Ricardo Pinto and Jesse Biddle are all underrated based on what the prospect writers say.

Biddle is actually overrated imo.

The others all look fine to me. They're mostly considered 15-30 ranked prospects in a fairly poor Phillies system. I think most of them actually look pretty decent and have some potential.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Jan Hernandez, Dylan Cozens, Gabriel Lino, David Whitehead, Arquimedes Gamboa and Mitch Guellar are all high.

Left Cozens where he was since our prospect guys had just edited him recently. Dropped the rest a bit, especially Hernandez's batting ratings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Tommy Joseph is not currently injured. His potential should be a tick higher, but injury proneness should be fragile if not wrecked.

Fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

Mike Trout's speed looks low to me.

Looks ok since his great baserunning and steal ability make up for the lowish speed. I think this is wad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

The steal ratings for Luis Domoromo and Greg Miclat are wildly high.

Fixed.

Kodiak · 03-20-2015, 09:42 PM

For the Cardinals. Hayward is showing up as being arbitration eligible which is not the case. Also Jaime Garcia shouldn't be on the disabled list. Lance Lynn signed a deal this off season with the Cards (3 years, 22 million).

Lukas Berger · 03-20-2015, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by injury log

Cruz was released to play in Japan. Just checked wikipedia and there it says he still pitches for Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles.

He does. Not sure why he wasn't there

Fixed.

Lukas Berger · 03-20-2015, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodiak

For the Cardinals. Hayward is showing up as being arbitration eligible which is not the case. Also Jaime Garcia shouldn't be on the disabled list. Lance Lynn signed a deal this off season with the Cards (3 years, 22 million).

Fixed Lynn and Garcia. On Heyward, I think he'll end up a fa. The game sometime projects a fa to be arb eligible even though he's not.

Kodiak · 03-20-2015, 09:59 PM

Cool thanks. My owner wants me to extend him

frangipard · 03-20-2015, 10:07 PM

One more -- Ruben Amaro is rated as "sabermetric" GM ... the Phillies were just ranked as the least-analytic team in all of pro sports!

Don't know if it makes a difference in the game but it made me

Lukas Berger · 03-20-2015, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frangipard

One more -- Ruben Amaro is rated as "sabermetric" GM ... the Phillies were just ranked as the least-analytic team in all of pro sports!

Don't know if it makes a difference in the game but it made me

It makes me

as well

It doesn't matter since he's a GM, but I will fix it.

jwisenberg · 03-20-2015, 10:32 PM

Royals notes

Remove:
Ryan Eigsti - Released about 3 years ago (Minor Moves: Blue Jays, Ryan Eigsti ? MLB Trade Rumors
)
Yojensy Arias - not listed in media guide hasn't appeared since 2013

Add:
Brian Bocock - as previously mentioned
Derek Gordon (P) - Alex's brother
Hunter Haynes (P) - DNP in 2014
Rudy Martin (OF) - DNP in 2014
Jose Al. Martinez (OF) - w/Lynchburg in 2014

International Guys:
Randy Acevedo (P), Michael Arroyo (C), Leonel Bejaran (INF), Anderson Caro (OF), Jose De Leon (P), Jeicol Escotto (P), Darwin Feliz (P), Juan Peguero (OF), Jose Tapia (P)

Okay I think I'm done for the night

Lukas Berger · 03-20-2015, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwisenberg

Astros notes

Done, except for the int guys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwisenberg

Royals notes

Done, except for the int guys and Martin who we just released a few days ago. I'm guessing someone maybe had more recent info?

TroyF · 03-21-2015, 12:49 AM

The Rockies minor league system is an abomination. The lowest system ranking i've seen from any service this year slots them at 15th. The lowest ranking I've seen for Jonathan Gray is the 24th best prospect in all of baseball or the 8th best pitching prospect.

With scouting turned to perfect, the Rockies rank 28th and Gray doesn't even hit the top 100 prospect list. He starts off in A ball. Being a Rockies fan is a souless existence as it is. The least you could do is give the kids decent ratings. (I'll be going through tomorrow and editing a group of them. They are going to get the system ranking they average from the top services. . . somewhere around 12th.

IcePhoenix · 03-21-2015, 01:02 AM

Does this count as a roster set issue?

Austsaint · 03-21-2015, 03:39 AM

Am kind of shocked with some of the Rays ratings, the two guys I have taken issue with in regards to their ratings are Chris Archer and Kevin Kiermaier. Archer had a pretty good year stat wise and he is one star, or is that 1 and a half stars? and Kiermaier also had a generally good all round year and he has 2 stars? I am curious to what is the reasoning behind these ratings as they seem almost identical to last years.

haveband · 03-21-2015, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF

The Rockies minor league system is an abomination. The lowest system ranking i've seen from any service this year slots them at 15th. The lowest ranking I've seen for Jonathan Gray is the 24th best prospect in all of baseball or the 8th best pitching prospect.

With scouting turned to perfect, the Rockies rank 28th and Gray doesn't even hit the top 100 prospect list. He starts off in A ball. Being a Rockies fan is a souless existence as it is. The least you could do is give the kids decent ratings. (I'll be going through tomorrow and editing a group of them. They are going to get the system ranking they average from the top services. . . somewhere around 12th.

You know, I rarely respond to posts like these, but I just have to on this occasion.

First off, if you'd actually bothered to read any part of this thread, you would have seen it mentioned MANY, MANY, MANY times to turn scouting OFF to see the true ratings. If you'd actually done that you'd see Gray in the top 20 which he doesn't deserve and their system ranked 7th, which apparently in your own words is too high for them. So I guess it really was an abomination as we severely overrated their prospects.

Guess we'll need to fix that

Lukas Berger · 03-21-2015, 07:27 AM

The other thing is that OOTP only counts top 100 prospects toward a system ranking, whereas rl sources count far beyond that. If the game counted the Rockies sub top 100 guys, they'd rank higher.

Lukas Berger · 03-21-2015, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austsaint

Am kind of shocked with some of the Rays ratings, the two guys I have taken issue with in regards to their ratings are Chris Archer and Kevin Kiermaier. Archer had a pretty good year stat wise and he is one star, or is that 1 and a half stars? and Kiermaier also had a generally good all round year and he has 2 stars? I am curious to what is the reasoning behind these ratings as they seem almost identical to last years.

Looking into Archer.

As for Kiermaier, he had a great year. But 2* is a pretty decent compliment in the roster set, it's generally a solid starter, which is almost exactly what Kiermaier is. A solid starter.

He doesn't really have the pedigree or track record to suggest that he's any more than a solid regular or possibly even a 4th OF who simply had a career year.

If he keeps last year's level or performance up, then PECOTA will surely be more optimistic in the future. But PECOTA's not going to overrate a guy based on one good year that appears to be a bit fluky and neither are we.

Austsaint · 03-21-2015, 07:38 AM

Thanks Lukas for your reply, I am glad you will look into Archer, as I think he is a cornerstone of the team. As for KK, your points are fair and a solid starter is a good rating for him.

injury log · 03-21-2015, 08:18 AM

It's possible you'll need to set prospect list generation to 'dynamic' to see the lists correctly.

And I hope everyone can bear in mind that there are about 1,000,000 individual data fields that need to be filled in, mostly by hand, to create the ratings for US organized ball alone, and that work is done by volunteers. There will be some mistakes, and it's great that people are pointing them out. But when the people who have created the set have donated hundreds of hours of their time purely for the community's enjoyment, I'd at least hope people can be polite when pointing out any errors they see.

Matt Arnold · 03-21-2015, 08:57 AM

We REALLY appreciate the roster team. If i had to do it myself I would set like 5 guys and then give up.

X3NEIZE · 03-21-2015, 10:23 AM

Thank you for the amazing game... been buying it for the past three years and it gets better every time! I'm a Football Manager series addict since 1995 (it was called CM back then) and this is the only other game in the market that rivals every aspect of the FM series.

Anyhow, starting to look at my Yankees, seems to me Tanaka is a bit underrated, his splitter is amazing and should be much higher than what is is, I would also argue that his overall stuff and stamina are a bit on the low side.

A-Rod seems to be overrated on 3B and even his power is probably a tick higher than it should be....

03-20-2015, 09:42 PM	#143
Kodiak Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8	For the Cardinals. Hayward is showing up as being arbitration eligible which is not the case. Also Jaime Garcia shouldn't be on the disabled list. Lance Lynn signed a deal this off season with the Cards (3 years, 22 million).

03-20-2015, 09:59 PM	#146
Kodiak Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8	Cool thanks. My owner wants me to extend him

03-20-2015, 10:07 PM	#147
frangipard OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 750	One more -- Ruben Amaro is rated as "sabermetric" GM ... the Phillies were just ranked as the least-analytic team in all of pro sports! Don't know if it makes a difference in the game but it made me

03-20-2015, 10:32 PM	#149
jwisenberg OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 868	Royals notes Remove: Ryan Eigsti - Released about 3 years ago (Minor Moves: Blue Jays, Ryan Eigsti ? MLB Trade Rumors ) Yojensy Arias - not listed in media guide hasn't appeared since 2013 Add: Brian Bocock - as previously mentioned Derek Gordon (P) - Alex's brother Hunter Haynes (P) - DNP in 2014 Rudy Martin (OF) - DNP in 2014 Jose Al. Martinez (OF) - w/Lynchburg in 2014 International Guys: Randy Acevedo (P), Michael Arroyo (C), Leonel Bejaran (INF), Anderson Caro (OF), Jose De Leon (P), Jeicol Escotto (P), Darwin Feliz (P), Juan Peguero (OF), Jose Tapia (P) Okay I think I'm done for the night

03-21-2015, 12:49 AM	#151
TroyF Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 95	The Rockies minor league system is an abomination. The lowest system ranking i've seen from any service this year slots them at 15th. The lowest ranking I've seen for Jonathan Gray is the 24th best prospect in all of baseball or the 8th best pitching prospect. With scouting turned to perfect, the Rockies rank 28th and Gray doesn't even hit the top 100 prospect list. He starts off in A ball. Being a Rockies fan is a souless existence as it is. The least you could do is give the kids decent ratings. (I'll be going through tomorrow and editing a group of them. They are going to get the system ranking they average from the top services. . . somewhere around 12th.

03-21-2015, 01:02 AM	#152
IcePhoenix Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 18	Does this count as a roster set issue?

03-21-2015, 03:39 AM	#153
Austsaint Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jeju Do, South Korea Posts: 192	Am kind of shocked with some of the Rays ratings, the two guys I have taken issue with in regards to their ratings are Chris Archer and Kevin Kiermaier. Archer had a pretty good year stat wise and he is one star, or is that 1 and a half stars? and Kiermaier also had a generally good all round year and he has 2 stars? I am curious to what is the reasoning behind these ratings as they seem almost identical to last years.

03-21-2015, 07:27 AM	#155
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,133	The other thing is that OOTP only counts top 100 prospects toward a system ranking, whereas rl sources count far beyond that. If the game counted the Rockies sub top 100 guys, they'd rank higher.

03-21-2015, 07:38 AM	#157
Austsaint Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jeju Do, South Korea Posts: 192	Thanks Lukas for your reply, I am glad you will look into Archer, as I think he is a cornerstone of the team. As for KK, your points are fair and a solid starter is a good rating for him.

03-21-2015, 08:18 AM	#158
injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,162	It's possible you'll need to set prospect list generation to 'dynamic' to see the lists correctly. And I hope everyone can bear in mind that there are about 1,000,000 individual data fields that need to be filled in, mostly by hand, to create the ratings for US organized ball alone, and that work is done by volunteers. There will be some mistakes, and it's great that people are pointing them out. But when the people who have created the set have donated hundreds of hours of their time purely for the community's enjoyment, I'd at least hope people can be polite when pointing out any errors they see.

03-21-2015, 08:57 AM	#159
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,622	We REALLY appreciate the roster team. If i had to do it myself I would set like 5 guys and then give up.

03-21-2015, 10:23 AM	#160
X3NEIZE All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 649	Thank you for the amazing game... been buying it for the past three years and it gets better every time! I'm a Football Manager series addict since 1995 (it was called CM back then) and this is the only other game in the market that rivals every aspect of the FM series. Anyhow, starting to look at my Yankees, seems to me Tanaka is a bit underrated, his splitter is amazing and should be much higher than what is is, I would also argue that his overall stuff and stamina are a bit on the low side. A-Rod seems to be overrated on 3B and even his power is probably a tick higher than it should be....