2006 Chicago Bears - Page 8

Jonzard · 10-17-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billethius

Or maybe Minnesota had a bad game before that.

Or maybe Minnesota botched a handoff when running out the clock in a game they should have won! (Okay not maybe)

APujols5 · 10-17-2006, 03:17 AM

Wow that was an amazing finish, sucked though that the Bears had to win the game like they had to last year. Rex nd the O had looked so good most of this season then to fall apart. that hurt to see.

Mike D · 10-17-2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by billethius

Sure, but if every team has a bad game every now and then, doesn't that make the conference a toss up? I mean, let's say Seattle just had a bad game two weeks ago. Or maybe Minnesota had a bad game before that.

Anyway, point being that I believe the NFC is a toss-up at this point. I guess we'll see how the rest of the season plays out.

Yes, Seattle had a bad game and got destroyed. The Bears had a bad game, and won. Big difference. Anyway, yeah, I guess we'll have to see.

Jonzard · 10-17-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Yes, Seattle had a bad game and got destroyed. The Bears had a bad game, and won. Big difference. Anyway, yeah, I guess we'll have to see.

The Bears had a bad game against Arizona. Big difference.

Goody · 10-17-2006, 08:24 AM

Ok, this trying to call a whole conference based on 1 or 2 games is getting ridiculous. Every team out there is an NFL team. Any team can rise up and defeat any other team. Its not like the best team is going to be stomping over everyone else like they're facing high school squads.

AnotherAlias · 10-17-2006, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Yes, Seattle had a bad game and got destroyed. The Bears had a bad game, and won. Big difference. Anyway, yeah, I guess we'll have to see.

Very good point. The "W" shows the mettle a team has.

I'd take a "bad game" that ends up as a 1 point victory, over having a bad game and getting blown out, or losing by 3 points any day of the week.

Good teams have bad games and sometimes lose. Great teams have bad games, but still win.

Goody · 10-17-2006, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

Very good point. The "W" shows the mettle a team has.

I'd take a "bad game" that ends up as a 1 point victory, over having a bad game and getting blown out, or losing by 3 points any day of the week.

Good teams have bad games and sometimes lose. Great teams have bad games, but still win.

They only play 16 game seasons. Look at MLB or the NBA. Great teams have bad games and lose.

marc · 10-17-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

What was that?

Oh, and I don't have ESPN. (EDIT: I do have TSN which covers some ESPN though, but I prefer our RSN.)

My statement still holds true regardless of the Cardinals choking the game away.

bababui · 10-17-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

This is why Denis Green is a poor coach. In the red zone, run, run, run, run, play for field goals. No killer instinct, afraid to fail. I hope they lose.

Wow. Prophetic words. Great call.

JDOldSchool · 10-17-2006, 11:51 AM

Ugh, Bears fans who call into shows here in Chicago drive me insane. For some reason that can not be adequately explained, Cedric Benson and Charles Tillman can do nothing right.

I just had to listen to this halfwit call in and blame Charles Tillman for Boldin making all those catches last night. Nathan Vasher was TERRIBLE last night. Sure, Boldin is one of the best receivers in football, but Boldin ate him alive. Tillman, on the other hand, didn't get beat by him once. People can't understand the concept of a zone defense and it drives me insane. I'm pretty sure Tillman tackled Boldin twice last night. Both times Boldin made the catch outside of Tillman's zone.

Bears fans, Peanut is the best cornerback on this team by a long shot. A bad game against Carolina last year doesn't change that. He has outplayed Vasher every game this year. I'm not sure what it will take for fans to get off his back, but like Benson, it seems the fans have had to pick "bad guys" for no apparent reason. Strangely enough, they're not picking guys who actually have been awful this year (Thomas Jones).

Goody · 10-17-2006, 12:15 PM

I just saw the recap. I didn't know they won on a return and then a missed field goal after letting a rookie QB march down the field.

That was Arizona beating themselves, not the Bears pulling out a squeaker with grit. Their "all-madden" defense was picked apart by a ROOKIE.

Seahawks blew a game against them, Cardinals blew a game against them. Final analysis = Chicago is as good as any team in the league...and have been lucky when they are "off".

andymac · 10-17-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 9lives

Seahawks blew a game against them

I hope you meant Minnesota.

Goody · 10-17-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

I hope you meant Minnesota.

Didn't watch the Minn game. The Seahawks blew the game when Hasselback threw 2 INT's that weren't really forced or necessary risks.

andymac · 10-17-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Bears fans, Peanut is the best cornerback on this team by a long shot.

I don't know that it is that clear cut. Tillman seems to work better against the bigger, more physical receivers (like Boldin) than Vasher does but Vasher seems to be better against the deep threats. Overall I would agree that Tillman is the better player overall (especially when considering run defense) but there are definitely circumstances where I would rather have Vasher covering someone.

marc · 10-17-2006, 12:28 PM

I'm gonna hi-jack here...

andymac, what the hell happened with Eric Gordon? Is Sampson cheating his ass off or what?

andymac · 10-17-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 9lives

Didn't watch the Minn game. The Seahawks blew the game when Hasselback threw 2 INT's that weren't really forced or necessary risks.

The Bears dominated that game, no way you can say the Seahawks blew it. If Hasselbeck doesn't throw those two picks the Bears maybe win by 20 instead of 30.

ihatenames · 10-17-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 9lives

I just saw the recap. I didn't know they won on a return and then a missed field goal after letting a rookie QB march down the field.

That was Arizona beating themselves, not the Bears pulling out a squeaker with grit. Their "all-madden" defense was picked apart by a ROOKIE.

Seahawks blew a game against them, Cardinals blew a game against them. Final analysis = Chicago is as good as any team in the league...and have been lucky when they are "off".

Perhaps you missed the whole game where the bears defense was responsible for all of the points except the return. And give some credit to Leinart, he will be a good one. The bears defense is the only reason they win. Without the bears D, they lose a big blowout. The bears offense was responsible for nearly all of arizona's points. I'd say the bears defense did play with grit and deserved their acclaim.

andymac · 10-17-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

I'm gonna hi-jack here...

andymac, what the hell happened with Eric Gordon? Is Sampson cheating his ass off or what?

I don't even want to talk about it...let's just say that the phrase "Kelvin Sampson" is the antonym of the phrase "classy guy".

marc · 10-17-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

I don't even want to talk about it...let's just say that the phrase "Kelvin Sampson" is the antonym of the phrase "classy guy".

Yeah that's shady as hell and sadly probably means Rose is going elsewhere. I would much prefer Illinois get those kids as opposed to Indiana.

Anyways back on topic, Urlacher is a stud.

Goody · 10-17-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

The Bears dominated that game

All except the opening 2 drives before his first pick...yeah.

10-17-2006, 12:28 PM	#155
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	I'm gonna hi-jack here... andymac, what the hell happened with Eric Gordon? Is Sampson cheating his ass off or what? __________________

10-17-2006, 03:17 AM	#142
APujols5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CP Indiana Posts: 1,667 Infractions: 1/3 (3)	Wow that was an amazing finish, sucked though that the Bears had to win the game like they had to last year. Rex nd the O had looked so good most of this season then to fall apart. that hurt to see.

10-17-2006, 08:24 AM	#145
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	Ok, this trying to call a whole conference based on 1 or 2 games is getting ridiculous. Every team out there is an NFL team. Any team can rise up and defeat any other team. Its not like the best team is going to be stomping over everyone else like they're facing high school squads.

10-17-2006, 11:51 AM	#150
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Ugh, Bears fans who call into shows here in Chicago drive me insane. For some reason that can not be adequately explained, Cedric Benson and Charles Tillman can do nothing right. I just had to listen to this halfwit call in and blame Charles Tillman for Boldin making all those catches last night. Nathan Vasher was TERRIBLE last night. Sure, Boldin is one of the best receivers in football, but Boldin ate him alive. Tillman, on the other hand, didn't get beat by him once. People can't understand the concept of a zone defense and it drives me insane. I'm pretty sure Tillman tackled Boldin twice last night. Both times Boldin made the catch outside of Tillman's zone. Bears fans, Peanut is the best cornerback on this team by a long shot. A bad game against Carolina last year doesn't change that. He has outplayed Vasher every game this year. I'm not sure what it will take for fans to get off his back, but like Benson, it seems the fans have had to pick "bad guys" for no apparent reason. Strangely enough, they're not picking guys who actually have been awful this year (Thomas Jones).

10-17-2006, 12:15 PM	#151
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	I just saw the recap. I didn't know they won on a return and then a missed field goal after letting a rookie QB march down the field. That was Arizona beating themselves, not the Bears pulling out a squeaker with grit. Their "all-madden" defense was picked apart by a ROOKIE. Seahawks blew a game against them, Cardinals blew a game against them. Final analysis = Chicago is as good as any team in the league...and have been lucky when they are "off".