New HW Boxers Rated

[IceTea]

Mario Preskar HW
Rating: 2

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by IceTea

* yeah, I did read your review when I was doing research on him. Where was he fighting?

MJ

Bel Terra Casino in Southern IN, about 1/2 way from Louisville to Cincinnati.

[IceTea]

Zoran Manojlovic HW
Rating: 1

[IceTea]

Matthew Greer HW
Rating: 1
10(9)-3-0

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Marty Franklin Rating 1 USA
HW 1966-69
12 wins / 14 losses / 2 draws / 2 KO

Alias: Earl Averrette
Hometowe: Fresno, CA
Birthplace: Canton, OH

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Franklin's career started out in a flurry with 3 fights in late 1969 being followed up with 13 bouts in 1967. He started with a respecible 10-5-1,2KO mark in that short time. Noteable fights were wins against Buddy Moore, Don McAteer(19-10-2,10), Ray (Junior) Ellis, LHW Frank Niblett and George Flowers. Losses came against the tougher opponents though like Buster Mathis, John Jordan, Charlie Williams, Alvin Lewis, and George Scrap Iron Johnson. He did manage a 10 round draw with Tony Kid Longoria.

Over the next two years though in 1968-69 his record with south at 2-9-1 as the opponents faced got even better. The two wins he managed came against Ray (Junior) Ellis again and LHW Marion Connor and he fought a 6 round draw with Joe Hemphill. Franklin couldn't handle things though against the likes of Fred Lewis, Wayne Thornton, Wayne Heath, Manuel Ramos, Terry Lee, Joey Orbillo and finally after loosing 2 straight fights to Steve Carter in August and December 1969, Franklin hanged up the mitts.


Wayne Heath Rating 1 USA
HW 1959-68
14 wins / 10 losses / 0 draws / 6 Ko

Alias: Irish
Hometown: Oklahoma City, OK

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Four wins in his first five career fights included two decisions over George Scrap Iron Johnson who was in the beginning stages of his career. The one loss was a 6 round decision dropped to Tod Herring. That early success though was followed by four consecutive fights in which Heath was knocked out, all happening between the 3rd and 5th rounds. The KO's were by Herring, Bill Nielsen(2-0 at the time), John Hunt(15-7-1,6) and Joe Clagg(5-2-0,4). Two of the losses came in 1960, two in 1961.

Then from 1962 thru 1965 Heath won 8 straight bouts all against no one of note except for a 1st round KO of Clarence Boone in April 1964 and then after winning a 10 round UD over LHW Lino Rendon(19-18-1,12) in July 1965, Heath won a 10 round split decision over Manuel Ramos in September of 65. There's no fights shown again for Heath for almost a year when he and Ramos square off again in September 1966. Ramos Knocks out Heath in the 2nd round and that starts a 4 fight loosing streak again for Heath. After a 10 round decision drop to Boone Kirkman in March 1967, Buster Mathis Knocks out Heath in the 5th round in August 1967. Heath was knocked down twice in the 3rd round. Three months later, Kirkman KO's Heath in the 3rd round.

Heath finished up his career in 1968 with an 8 round decision over Marty Franklin and a 1st round KO of Humberto S Ghiotti before being outpointed by Aaron Eastling in 10 rounds in May 1968.

[IceTea]

Young Hector HW
Rating: 2
16(8)-10-2
1915-1922

[IceTea]

Boston Bearcat
Rating: 1
0-3

[lethal liberal]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Saw him fight in person and he looked pretty good.

Yeah,he does look good. I know he had a late start and hasnt really fought any competition at all,but just something about him tells me that he can at least make a run at the top 15(I know thats not saying much..LOL). I just wish he would have started about 5-7 years ago. Isnt he fighting out of the same area as Diaconu,Bute,Pascal and the boys? Lot of good young fighters coming out of Canada these days. Even though Bute and Diaconu are originally from Romania I believe. Take care guys. Keep an eye on Bermane. I would like to see him rumble with Travis Walker. Talking about some bombs.

[earl61245]

Originally Posted by IceTea

Mario Preskar HW
Rating: 2

Ice Tea..I sent you a private message as you requested to get updated fighters..when I get these sent to the email address I put in my private message..let me know how I extract these fighters. I do have my DB built in the game itself..but anyway just let me know. Again, thanks in advance.

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by earl61245

Ice Tea..I sent you a private message as you requested to get updated fighters..when I get these sent to the email address I put in my private message..let me know how I extract these fighters. I do have my DB built in the game itself..but anyway just let me know. Again, thanks in advance.

* Create a folder on your desktop and extract the fighters into it using winzip or whatever program you use for this type of function. You then open the game, click on menu, click on import file, highlight each file using your mouse and start importing them. I do not know how to send you my entire data base. I only have about 9,000 fighters. Many forum members have several thousand more.

MJ

[IceTea]

Tiger Jack Wright HW
10(4)-12-3
Rating: 1

[btown32]

Anybody have a Paul Marinaccio HW file? ID#106221

[mario carrillo]

of boxing illustrated from 1960 to 1962 as a xmas present.

The mags are a mine of information for that era and I will be rating fighters based on the extra info soon.

Just finished a great article on a heavyweight called Curley Lee who i had not previously heard of. The article said Lee a great young prospect may of been ruined by a terrible KO loss in the tenth round to Cleveland Williams!

anyway back to the mimnce pies and old boxing mags!

rgds
Dean[/quote]
dean,,i was at the olympic auditorium in about 1968 when i was getting a hot dog and bumped into a black gentleman and in conversation i learned from him that he was curley lee and he had suffered permanent brain damage due to being knocked out by cleveland williams,,,said he didnt want the fight as he was only 181 but his managers saw opportunity,,he got knocked out,,,,,postcript,,a short time later l learned an ex boxer named curley lee had snapped and killed family members in a los angeles incident,,sad story,,he never fought again after the knockout

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by mario carrillo

of boxing illustrated from 1960 to 1962 as a xmas present.

The mags are a mine of information for that era and I will be rating fighters based on the extra info soon.

Just finished a great article on a heavyweight called Curley Lee who i had not previously heard of. The article said Lee a great young prospect may of been ruined by a terrible KO loss in the tenth round to Cleveland Williams!

anyway back to the mimnce pies and old boxing mags!

rgds
Dean

dean,,i was at the olympic auditorium in about 1968 when i was getting a hot dog and bumped into a black gentleman and in conversation i learned from him that he was curley lee and he had suffered permanent brain damage due to being knocked out by cleveland williams,,,said he didnt want the fight as he was only 181 but his managers saw opportunity,,he got knocked out,,,,,postcript,,a short time later l learned an ex boxer named curley lee had snapped and killed family members in a los angeles incident,,sad story,,he never fought again after the knockout[/QUOTE]

Really looking forward to any ratings and research info you come up with Mario. I've fallen in love with researching the heavyweights and light heavies of the 60's especially the latter part. Looking forward to your work!

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Al Brooks Rating 1 USA
HW 1966-83
14 wins / 14 losses / 1 draw / 8 KO

Hometown: Springfield, MA

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Brooks shows two phases to his career by what's in boxrec. From May 1966 to March 1969 he accummulated an 8-6-0,7KO record. He started out 4-5-0 with 2 losses to Don Waldheim, 6 round decisions dropped to Eddie Vick and Jose Roman, a 4 rounder to Jim Howard with wins against Eddie Lawrence(1-4-2,1) twice, Woodrow Jones and Devany Washington. Then in 1968 thru January 1969 he won 3 round KO's against Walter Dietrich and Ted Butler(0-8-1) and 1st round knockout of Barry O'Neil and a 6 round split decision over Billy Marquart. Then in March after the Marquart fight, Brooks looses a 6 round decision to Don WAldheim. There's no record of any more fights for Brooks after that for almost 10 years.

Then in January 1978 we see the second phase of Brooks' career. He fights 11 times in 1978 with 5 wins, 3 losses, 1 draw and 1 no contest. The only opponent faced with any kind of worthy record to speak of was the last fight in late December as he's outpointed in 8 rounds by Jesse Crown whose's 24-20-1 at the time. Brooks then is absent from the ring for another year and a half til June 1980. From then thru January 1983 he fights on and off winning the first fight against Paul Benjamin in June 1980 but then looses his last 4 fights, 3 by KO. He was TKO's by John Dino Denis in October 1980 in a fight billed as for the New England Heavyweight Title. His next fight in February 1981 he's KO'd by Scrott Frank in teh 2nd round.


Don Waldheim Rating 1 USA
HW 1965-69
5 wins / 5 losses / 2 draws / 0 KO

Alias: Waldhelm
Hometown: Brooklyn, NY

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Fought 2, 4 round draws against Billy Marquart and Bob Felstein before Felstein beat Waldheim by 4 round majority decision in a rematch in March 1966. After 2, 4 round decisions over Al Brooks(14-14-1,8) in March and August 1966, Waldheim then lost a 4 round split decision to Jose Roman in late March 1967.

Marquart beat him in 4 rounder in Sept 1968 before Waldeim won 3 straight decision fights against Tony Norris, Al Brooks and Marquart. In May 1969 he was KO'd in the 2nd round by Bill Drover in St. John's, NF, Canada, Waldheim's only career fight outside of New York, New Jersey area. According to a short account of the fight in the September 1969 edition of The Ring, Drover dropped Waldheim toward the end of the 1st round for a mandatory 8 count, then went into the 2nd round and decked Waldhelm 3 times to then end the fight at 1:37 of the 2nd round.

His most noteable fight would have to be his last career bout in Madison Square Garden against 1968 Olympic heavyweight champion George Foreman, making his pro debute. The September 1969 edition of The Ring noted in a short account of the fight that Foreman's performance was disappointing with a "fair left jab" but he displayed a right that he tossed around in an "amateurish roundhouse fashion". The writer opioned that Foreman needed "plenty of schooling".


Walter Dietrich Rating 1 USA
HW 1964-68
2 wins / 2 losses / 2 draws / 0 KO

Hometown: Freeport, LI, NY

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

In December 1964 Dietrich won a 6 round decision over a Billy Kuhn and then lost a 4 round decision to Bob Stallings who was fighting for the 2nd time in his career that would see him with an up and down career through the 60's and 70's. On the 1st of February, Dietrich matched up against Kuhn again and the two fought a 4 round draw. Those fights with Dietrich are the only two listed in boxrec for Kuhn.

Dietrich does not have a listed fight then again till November 1067 when he draws 6 rounds with Billy Marquart. A 6 round decision over Ronnie Williams(2-9-0,1) in May 1968 and a KO loss to Al Brooks(14-14-1,8) at 1:55 in the 3rd round is it for Dietrich.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Art Robinson Rating 1 USA
HW 1967,1973-75,82,90
5 wins / 13 losses / 0 draws / 3 KO

Hometown: Indianapolis, IN

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Robinson fought some decent competition, but his career as it showns in boxrec right now is very chopped up. He's got 1 fight listed in April 1967 against Eddie Brooks, loosing a 6 round decision. You then see him next in October 1973. From then through Sept 1975 he wins 3 fights, a 4 round decision over a Danny Lee(5-8-1,3), a 2nd round KO of LHW Tom Van Hoof(14-3-0,6) and a 2nd round KO of a Randy Lucas(0-1-0). Mixed in are decision losses to Tom Prater, Larry Penninger, Eddi Brooks, and Mahmout Fadel(6-1-0,3) along with getting KO'd by Rodney Bobick, Duane Bobick in successive fights in March and June 1974, and finally a 2nd round KO to Leroy Jones in Sept 1975.

We next see Robinson 6-1/2 years later in Feb 1982. He's listed with 6 fights in 1982, a 6 round decision win over Frank Farmer(2-16-1,0) and a 2nd round KO of Al Houck(17-21-2,6). He looses to Larry Alexander, James Broad, Tom Fischer, and a 2nd round KO loss to Larry Frazier in October 1982. There's then another 8 year gap till a 3rd round KO loss to Bill Corrigan(11-14-1,8) in December 1990.


Willie McMillian USA
LHW Rating 4 1963-64
HW Rating 3 1966-71
15 wins / 10 losses / 1 draw / 9 KO

Alias: The Monster
Hometown: Toledo, OH

rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

McMillan's career started out in 1963-64 as a Light heavyweight winning 6 bouts, the first 4 by knockout. The last 3 wins were a 4th round KO and then two, 6 round decisions over LHW Jim Christopher. There is then 2 years with now record of McMillan fighting until March 1966 when he enters the ring again, this time as a heavyweight, though a light one at that, against Vic Brown. McMillan wins a 6 round decision. It's then a year and 3 months till June 1967 when McMillan shows up again this time against a LHW Al Evans(8-10-0,6). Boxrec has a not showing McMillan stopping Evans at 2:12 of some unkown round for the TKO. Four more fights in 1967 land McMillan wins against Vic Brown, Ray Anderson and John Jordan(16-11-3,10). He looses an 8 rounder against Alvin Lewis. At the end of 1967 McMillans' record stood at a very good 11-1-0,6KO.

Beginning in 1968 McMillans career takes a dive as he wins only 4 more fights while loosing 9 with 1 draw. The wins come against Lee Powell(0-12-0), Bob Stallings, Vic Brown and Ben Black. In Feb 1968 after defeating John Jordan in a 10 round decision in November 1967, the two fight a 10 round drawn match. After that McMillan looses an 8 round decision and 3 straight 10 rounders to Eddie Brooks, Henry Hank, Alvin Lewis and then Jordan. Other looses in this time were a 10 round decision dropped to Bob Stallings and 10 rounders lost to Joe Burns(twice) and Johnny Griffin. After knocking out Ben Black in the 6th round in April 1971, McMillan's career comes to a close with a 2nd round TKO loss to Jeff Merritt.


First file for McMillan is LHW 2nd is HW

[btown32]

Has anybody created a Shane Cameron #155589 or Matt Godfrey file? Thanks

[lethal liberal]

Originally Posted by Rocco Del Sesto

Art Robinson Rating 1 USA
HW 1967,1973-75,82,90
5 wins / 13 losses / 0 draws / 3 KO

Hometown: Indianapolis, IN

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Robinson fought some decent competition, but his career as it showns in boxrec right now is very chopped up. He's got 1 fight listed in April 1967 against Eddie Brooks, loosing a 6 round decision. You then see him next in October 1973. From then through Sept 1975 he wins 3 fights, a 4 round decision over a Danny Lee(5-8-1,3), a 2nd round KO of LHW Tom Van Hoof(14-3-0,6) and a 2nd round KO of a Randy Lucas(0-1-0). Mixed in are decision losses to Tom Prater, Larry Penninger, Eddi Brooks, and Mahmout Fadel(6-1-0,3) along with getting KO'd by Rodney Bobick, Duane Bobick in successive fights in March and June 1974, and finally a 2nd round KO to Leroy Jones in Sept 1975.

We next see Robinson 6-1/2 years later in Feb 1982. He's listed with 6 fights in 1982, a 6 round decision win over Frank Farmer(2-16-1,0) and a 2nd round KO of Al Houck(17-21-2,6). He looses to Larry Alexander, James Broad, Tom Fischer, and a 2nd round KO loss to Larry Frazier in October 1982. There's then another 8 year gap till a 3rd round KO loss to Bill Corrigan(11-14-1,8) in December 1990.


Willie McMillian USA
LHW Rating 4 1963-64
HW Rating 3 1966-71
15 wins / 10 losses / 1 draw / 9 KO

Alias: The Monster
Hometown: Toledo, OH

rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

McMillan's career started out in 1963-64 as a Light heavyweight winning 6 bouts, the first 4 by knockout. The last 3 wins were a 4th round KO and then two, 6 round decisions over LHW Jim Christopher. There is then 2 years with now record of McMillan fighting until March 1966 when he enters the ring again, this time as a heavyweight, though a light one at that, against Vic Brown. McMillan wins a 6 round decision. It's then a year and 3 months till June 1967 when McMillan shows up again this time against a LHW Al Evans(8-10-0,6). Boxrec has a not showing McMillan stopping Evans at 2:12 of some unkown round for the TKO. Four more fights in 1967 land McMillan wins against Vic Brown, Ray Anderson and John Jordan(16-11-3,10). He looses an 8 rounder against Alvin Lewis. At the end of 1967 McMillans' record stood at a very good 11-1-0,6KO.

Beginning in 1968 McMillans career takes a dive as he wins only 4 more fights while loosing 9 with 1 draw. The wins come against Lee Powell(0-12-0), Bob Stallings, Vic Brown and Ben Black. In Feb 1968 after defeating John Jordan in a 10 round decision in November 1967, the two fight a 10 round drawn match. After that McMillan looses an 8 round decision and 3 straight 10 rounders to Eddie Brooks, Henry Hank, Alvin Lewis and then Jordan. Other looses in this time were a 10 round decision dropped to Bob Stallings and 10 rounders lost to Joe Burns(twice) and Johnny Griffin. After knocking out Ben Black in the 6th round in April 1971, McMillan's career comes to a close with a 2nd round TKO loss to Jeff Merritt.


First file for McMillan is LHW 2nd is HW

Hey Rocco,just wanted to mention that I remember watching the Art Robinson fight with James"Broad Axe" Broad back on ESPN Top Rank boxing sometime in the early to mid 80's. If I remember correctly Robinson was a last minute replacement and after a couple of rounds had not thrown a single punch and was disqualified. It was one of the strangest fights that I have seen. He was a big man,but just laid against the ropes and held out both hands trying to fend off Broad...just an utterly ridiculous fight that night. I will never forget him because my mother used to be a big boxing fan and we would always watch the fights together. I remember she was so disgusted with Robinsons lack of desire to fight that I started a running joke..I would tell her every time when she asked who was fighting this week..I would reply "There is this great new fighter Mom,his name is Big Art Robinson" she would be so disgusted..LOL. Just by mentioning him you brought back some great memories of watching boxing with Mom. A tiny,soft spoken,tender hearted little woman..but she loved the sweet science! Just had to share that story and to tell you that Art should be rated a 0 if that was possible..LOL. Later fellas.

[bdennis2]

Luther McCarty would have been a champion if he had not of died after 3yrs of fighting what a fight it would have been between him and Dempsey so i took has rating already in the game set creer stage at pre prime and let the game set him to prime and did a few adjustments to the rating. This is only a what if he had of lived on through his prime and my belief of what he might of been like so here is his rating for you guys to do with how ever you want to use him for. Also Jeremy Williams has been around for soom time in the game mostly past his prime so i did a Prime rating of Williams if someome else has rated him at prime them i'm sorry just disregard the rating. BD

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by bdennis2

Luther McCarty would have been a champion if he had not of died after 3yrs of fighting what a fight it would have been between him and Dempsey so i took has rating already in the game set creer stage at pre prime and let the game set him to prime and did a few adjustments to the rating. This is only a what if he had of lived on through his prime and my belief of what he might of been like so here is his rating for you guys to do with how ever you want to use him for. Also Jeremy Williams has been around for soom time in the game mostly past his prime so i did a Prime rating of Williams if someome else has rated him at prime them i'm sorry just disregard the rating. BD

* Both of these fighters are on the database. Thanks for the ratings though.