New Non-HW Boxers Rated

[Rocco Del Sesto]

LHW 1961-72 Rating 1 Netherlands
19 wins / 15 losses / 4 draws / 6 KO

Hometown: Amsterdam, NH

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Bas fought a good many of the better know light heavies from Europe of the 60's with a sprinkling of heavyweights. His many opponents included wins over Valere Mahau,, Hans Waschlewski, Gerd Englbrecht, Harry Kneipp, Helmut Bal, Horst Benedens, Sugar Boy Nando, Lloyd Walford, Arno Prick, and Roy John. He fought draws with Finn Jensen, Kneipp, Lars Olov Norling, and Ivan Prebeg.

He lost bouts to Heini Meinhardt twice, Lennart Risberg, Klaus Peter Gumpert, Pekka Kokkonen, Wilhelm von Homburg, Horst Benedens, Bernard Thebault, Alfredo Vogrig, Pedro Miranda, Vittorio Saraudi, Piero Del Papa, Jose Manuel Urtain, and finally in May and again in November 1971, Bas lost two bids for the Dutch Heavyweight Title loosing first to Rudi Lubbers by 12 round decision and then was KO'd by Lubbers in the 5th round in the 2nd bout.

[CONN CHRIS]

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All the photos in this thread prior to this post have been re-filed in the photos forum.

If you post a new photo here, please be sure to post a duplicate in the proper folder (by decade of debut) over there as well. This way, future and current board members will be able to more easily locate the photo that you made an effort to find and re-size.

Thank you!
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[vistaman44]

Has anyone rated Yodsanan or Kwanjai (or any others, LOL!) 3K Battery? I have pics for three different guys with that "last name," but only a Fahsan file. I would appreciate anyone's ratings of others with that name. Maybe Chris or Scot? Anyone?

Thanks in advance!

[CONN CHRIS]

Yodsanan was done by the Trunzos I believe but is under one of his other aliases. I think I may have done Kwajai along with a few of the 13 Riantowers. I may have another 3K fighters too, I will check tonight at home Mark.

The biggest of the 3Ks, Samson, was done by the Trunzos but under the Dutch Boy Gym moniker if memory serves. He was best known as 3K so I changed him in my database.

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Yodsanan was done by the Trunzos I believe but is under one of his other aliases. I think I may have done Kwajai along with a few of the 13 Riantowers. I may have another 3K fighters too, I will check tonight at home Mark.

The biggest of the 3Ks, Samson, was done by the Trunzos but under the Dutch Boy Gym moniker if memory serves. He was best known as 3K so I changed him in my database.

I have Samson Dutch Boy Gym (a/k/a 3K Battery) and Fahsan 3K Battery. What is Yodsanan's other name? Don't have Kwanjai or any others, so all appreciated. You da man!

[CONN CHRIS]

Hey Mark:

Thais with numbers

Chodchoy 13 Riantower WW
Kiatchai 13 Riantower JWW
Erarat 13 Riantower BW

I have never been able to dredge up a photo of these folks.

[CONN CHRIS]

Fahsan 3k Battery JFW
Kwanjai 3k Battery SW
Pandang 3K Battery SW
Samson 3K Battery JBW

I have photos of all but Pandang.

[CONN CHRIS]

Yodsanan:

My rating - Yodsanan 3K Battery JLW (11)

TBCB rating - Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai (14)

[vistaman44]

... help, Chris. Two less photos without files in my database, and I expect Yodsanan will get some competitive use soon.

[JCWeb]

Could not find these guys anywhere, so I rated them as both began their careers in 1915, which is where I am in my Uni. One, Eddie (Kid) Wagner, is rated as a 7 (LW) and the second, Vincent (Pepper) Martin, is rated as a 4 (FW). Both were ranked by Ring magazine in the 1920s as JLWs.

[Man With No Teeth]

Hi,
I bought Title Bout a couple of days ago, and really like it. I know that a couple of people on the forum have rated Axel Schulz, but I can't find any ratings/attributes for Brian Minto.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks so much!

MwnT

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by Man With No Teeth

Hi,
I bought Title Bout a couple of days ago, and really like it. I know that a couple of people on the forum have rated Axel Schulz, but I can't find any ratings/attributes for Brian Minto.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks so much!

MwnT

Here he is. Give me your email and I will send you a few hundred fighters that are not included in the game.

MJ

[Man With No Teeth]

Thanks IceTea,
my adress is norbertgmatausch(at)mailingaddress.org

Thanks so much!

[hamed]

Chris, thanks for all the Thai fighters you posted here.

Ice Tea, I like your Rudolph avatar.

Speaking of fighters, does anyone have Amir Khan they could please post? I'm not sure if it was Azza but someone made a LW 9 rated version of Khan as a Beginner as I recall but I can't locate him now.

Thanks in advance & Happy Thanksgiving!

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Johnny Alford Rating 1 USA
LHW 1959-64,67-68
24 wins / 16 losses / 3 draws / 16 KO

Hometown: PHiladlephia, PA

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

From october 1959 thru July 1964 Alford compiled a 15-11-3,12KO record with the first 13-2-3,10KO portion of it against the usual local club fighters. The only fight outside the PA, NJ, area being a 6 round draw with middleweight Ernie Smith(15-20-3) in Detroit. In November 1961 he fought Johnny Tucker at Madison Square Garden and lost a 6 round decision to Tucker. Those two fought a rematch at the Garden in January 1962 with Alford winning by TKO in the 6th round after referee Martin stopped the bout after Tucker had been battered in the 5th and 6th rounds according to the New York Times.

A little more then a month later Alfrod took on future heavyweight Jimmy Ellis at the Garden. Both fighters went into this fight weighing in as a middleweight at slightly less then 160 lbs. Ellis won by majority decision in 6 rounds. That was the start of a 1-8-0 skid over the next couple of years including losses to Jesse Smith, Allen Thomas adn ending with consecutive losses to Leotis Martin, Johnny Persol and Giulio Rinaldi(in Rome, Italy, the first of only 2 times Alford fought outside the states). After he dropped the 10 round decision to Rinaldi, Alford left the ring for close to 3 years.

In March 1967 Alford started a comeback dropping a 10 round decision to then undefeated LHW Joe Burns(23-7-1,10). Alford then realed off 6 straight wins including a 7th round KO of Luis Gutierrez. On March 26 1967, three weeks after winning a 10 round decision over Freddie Sullivan, Alfrod lost by 10 round UD to Angel Oquendo. That was followed 2 months later by a 10 round decision loss to Pedro Miranda. After an 8th round knockout of Linnes Johnson a couple weeks after the loss to Miranda, Alford finished out a busy 1967 with a 10 round decision loss to Oquendo. Alford then finished his career for good in 1968 with a 3rd round Ko win, a 10 round descision loss to Harold Johnson and then a 10 round UD win over Juan Carlos Rivero.