Complete Universe Facegen Pack

[JerseyDan421]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Sure, I'll add them to my list. Might take me a week as I have some of my own to work on plus other requested ones - but I have a few days off work to sneak some fg time in around Thanksgiving. The ones I do here are as much for myself as for others. I have another thread too where between this one and that one, I'm looking at every fg I have and redoing it or accepting it. If I redo one, I post it so folks can take it or not. I'm not offended if someone passes on it - just trying my best to give back to the community that I too have benefited from going back to OOTP 6.

For those that want the no-frills fg software, it is here: https://facegen.com/ . There is a free version that can make them but I wasn't happy with the results so I spent around $400 for the mid-tier one (the upper end one with custom mesh stuff is all Greek to me). The paid version gives me better results and I'm now much more comfortable with the sliders on it so I can better tweak the results. It's not just aligning the facial points and hitting "generate" it's then using the sliders to better align it with the photo that takes the time.

All that said, I think everyone should have the free facegen module - if only to make a face a little more orange or a little pinker etc. to match their individual monitor settings which may differ from mine.

EDIT: The free one is the Modeller and technically, they call it the "Demo" version - but ignore the logo it puts on the forehead of the Demo results - that watermark goes under the hat in OOTP

So I've tried the demo and for some reason, it's not really working for me... It keeps telling me "incorrect placements of markers on face photo" I'm pretty sure I'm getting them right haha, so it's a little frustrating

the placements are centre of the right eye, centre of the left eye outside of the right nare outside of the left nare right corner of mouth left corner of mouth bottom edge of the chin center right jawbone corner of outer edge left jawbone of corner edge right cheekbone outer edge left cheekbone outer edge and I feel I'm getting them right on the spot, but I'm still getting "incorrect placements of markers on face photo"

is there like a tutorial or example for each of those, to make sure I'm getting it spot on?

[LansdowneSt]

Some tips are:

1. Always rotate the image so that the nose or the eyes or the mouth is straight. I usually do the nose bottom as a flat horizontal and move the mouth and eyes if needed to align it (sliders in the asymmetrical shape tab). See how I turned Zito before placing the points. That matters because while the software is looking for lines to shape the face (from the image) it is also assuming you are following directions in that the face in the photo is more or less a mugshot and the place markers will fall in certain areas. See how the zito pic was turned before I loaded it...

2. Crop it so it is just the face and then resize the image to 1000 pixels as the height in photo editing software so it is big when you import it into the fg maker.

3. If you have something wrong in the image try to fix it in the source file before making the facegen (a scratch, a shadow to lighten, mustache to darken, etc.)

4. the points to the side of the mouth should be a straight line from the respective mouth points - it doesn't matter where the neck is (even though the example in the fg software makes it look like where the neck is meeting the cheek). I was rushing on this one and my cheek ones are a little lower than they ought to be but that's easy to tweak in the fg.

5. I'll add this Zito to my other thread tomorrow

[percolaten]

Any luck on a new Lasorda yet?

[LansdowneSt]

"I bleed Dodger blue and when I die, I'm going to the big Dodger in the sky." - Tommy Lasorda

"Guys ask me, don't I get burned out? How can you get burned out doing something you love? I ask you, have you ever got tired of kissing a pretty girl?" - Tommy Lasorda

Tommy Lasorda was a famous manager and also pitched 14 seasons from 1945 to 1960, three in the Major Leagues (1954-1956) and 14 in the minors, losing two years to the military. After becoming the Dodgers' manager, he won eight division titles and finished second thrice and third once through 1996. Lasorda was elected to the Hall of Fame by the Veterans Committee in 1997. After his retirement as a manager, he became a Dodgers executive, and his association with the club has spanned seven decades. He also managed the United States to its first-ever gold medal in baseball at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. - bRef Bullpen wiki

Also, given we all play a computer baseball game, lets us not be remiss and be sure to mention "Tommy Lasorda Baseball" which was a 1989 baseball video game developed and published by Sega as one of the six launch titles for the Sega Genesis in the North America.

Mangers are hard. Especially if the fg software thinks the resulting fg is a younger age than the photo used as the game will then add years on its own atop it. He also managed forever so 1978 Lasorda is not 1993 Lasorda. I used the later-in-his-career, color picture for him as his mouth was closed (which it rarely was in life) and then tried to smooth away some of the wrinkles and take some of the weight off to be more 80's Lasorda. I could tweak it all day long and not be satisfied with it but I owe it to the board to stop fussing with it and post what I have. The before is his player picture in the CU Facepack. To not overwrite that one, I am saving this as "lasorto01", his major league ID. So, if you are using Tommy as a manager, go to the Editor page and paste his BBRef ID atop his Historical Minors ID and it will default to this older version.

[percolaten]

Amazing, looks great!

[JerseyDan421]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Sure, I'll add them to my list. Might take me a week as I have some of my own to work on plus other requested ones - but I have a few days off work to sneak some fg time in around Thanksgiving. The ones I do here are as much for myself as for others. I have another thread too where between this one and that one, I'm looking at every fg I have and redoing it or accepting it. If I redo one, I post it so folks can take it or not. I'm not offended if someone passes on it - just trying my best to give back to the community that I too have benefited from going back to OOTP 6.

For those that want the no-frills fg software, it is here: https://facegen.com/ . There is a free version that can make them but I wasn't happy with the results so I spent around $400 for the mid-tier one (the upper end one with custom mesh stuff is all Greek to me). The paid version gives me better results and I'm now much more comfortable with the sliders on it so I can better tweak the results. It's not just aligning the facial points and hitting "generate" it's then using the sliders to better align it with the photo that takes the time.

All that said, I think everyone should have the free facegen module - if only to make a face a little more orange or a little pinker etc. to match their individual monitor settings which may differ from mine.

EDIT: The free one is the Modeller and technically, they call it the "Demo" version - but ignore the logo it puts on the forehead of the Demo results - that watermark goes under the hat in OOTP

I'm sure the facegens come out A LOT better on the paid ones but I appreciate you a lot for telling me about the free version, it's not necessarily the GREATEST quality, but for some reason it's so hard for me to play my save without facegens so even on a scale of 1-10 with it being a 4-5 is better to me than not having a facegen at all, I know it sounds weird haha but I love how immersive the facegens make the game.

Like I said, I'm sure the paid ones come out A LOT better and way more detailed, but the free one isn't half bad.

[LansdowneSt]

Part of the fun is the making of them and the satisfaction of getting it to where you want it to be. I'm glad you got the facial points working to generate them... and now you won't have to wait for anyone. Still check in here every so often (and the other thread (https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=331809) to see what's new every so often. We'll all still be here even as you are mastering the various sliders (and it's the sliders that really matter). If you get frustrated in that you think "If only the program would do X" or "Is there are better way to do Y to a face"... just ask - be it here in the forum or via a forum DM. Happy to oblige.

[JerseyDan421]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Part of the fun is the making of them and the satisfaction of getting it to where you want it to be. I'm glad you got the facial points working to generate them... and now you won't have to wait for anyone. Still check in here every so often (and the other thread (https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=331809) to see what's new every so often. We'll all still be here even as you are mastering the various sliders (and it's the sliders that really matter). If you get frustrated in that you think "If only the program would do X" or "Is there are better way to do Y to a face"... just ask - be it here in the forum or via a forum DM. Happy to oblige.

I'll definitely still check out yours and others FG's, you guys are GREAT with it even if I end up getting the paid version and really mastering my craft, I'll still check out your guys stuff.

I also appreciate the help, thank you so much

[JerseyDan421]

nvm on the requests for Peraza,Schmidt,Nolan Jones(obviously unless someone else needs it) one request I need is a GOOD Félix Hernández one all the onesi make for him are coming out horribly.

[LansdowneSt]

In a 2020 interview with The Athletic, King Felix discussed why he was trying to hook on withthe Orioles after his tenure with Seattle ended.... “The Hall of Fame. I think I had a shot to go into the Hall of Fame. But I had a few numbers that I (needed to) keep up, like wins and strikeouts,” he said. “So, if I get to those goals, I think I’m gonna be set for the Hall of Fame.” He certainly has had an impressive career. He debuted in 2005 with the Seattle Mariners at age 19, won the AL Cy Young Award in 2010 and placed second in 2009 and 2014. A six-time All-Star and two-time AL ERA champ, Hernández is 169-136 with a career 3.42 ERA and 2,524 strikeouts in 2,729 2/3 innings pitched in a 15-season career, all with the Mariners. “If I get to 200 (wins) and like 3,000 strikeouts, I think I have a shot for the Hall of Fame,” Hernández said. “Let me tell you something: I have the numbers because I’ve got the innings. I’ve got the strikeouts. But I think my goal is to get 3,000 (strikeouts) and 200 wins.”

The article has takes from several BBWAA HOF voters including Jay Jaffe doing a JAWS look and sadly, it doesn't look good for Felix. It was Andrew Baggarly, The Athletic, San Francisco Giants writer, who summed the problem up most succinctly however... "If Santana dropped off the ballot, I can’t see Félix getting any meaningful traction."

This facegen is one that shipped with the game a couple years ago. I narrowed it (the game plumps him up and doing so in the fg too only compounds it) and took some of the shine from the lights out of his cheeks. I usually don't like the smiling ones that are the default but didn't mind this one. Oddly, I didn't see an fg for him at all in the current CU Facepack. Hope it's close to what you were looking for

[JerseyDan421]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

In a 2020 interview with The Athletic, King Felix discussed why he was trying to hook on withthe Orioles after his tenure with Seattle ended.... “The Hall of Fame. I think I had a shot to go into the Hall of Fame. But I had a few numbers that I (needed to) keep up, like wins and strikeouts,” he said. “So, if I get to those goals, I think I’m gonna be set for the Hall of Fame.” He certainly has had an impressive career. He debuted in 2005 with the Seattle Mariners at age 19, won the AL Cy Young Award in 2010 and placed second in 2009 and 2014. A six-time All-Star and two-time AL ERA champ, Hernández is 169-136 with a career 3.42 ERA and 2,524 strikeouts in 2,729 2/3 innings pitched in a 15-season career, all with the Mariners. “If I get to 200 (wins) and like 3,000 strikeouts, I think I have a shot for the Hall of Fame,” Hernández said. “Let me tell you something: I have the numbers because I’ve got the innings. I’ve got the strikeouts. But I think my goal is to get 3,000 (strikeouts) and 200 wins.”

The article has takes from several BBWAA HOF voters including Jay Jaffe doing a JAWS look and sadly, it doesn't look good for Felix. It was Andrew Baggarly, The Athletic, San Francisco Giants writer, who summed the problem up most succinctly however... "If Santana dropped off the ballot, I can’t see Félix getting any meaningful traction."

This facegen is one that shipped with the game a couple years ago. I narrowed it (the game plumps him up and doing so in the fg too only compounds it) and took some of the shine from the lights out of his cheeks. I usually don't like the smiling ones that are the default but didn't mind this one. Oddly, I didn't see an fg for him at all in the current CU Facepack. Hope it's close to what you were looking for

yup, it was weird not seeing him in the current pack.. Thank you so much!

[ChrisJNelson]

Am I crazy or is there no Nick Markakis in this pack?

[LansdowneSt]

Former Orioles outfielder Nick Markakis is retiring, ending a 15-year career that spanned the Orioles’ competitive renaissance and ended with the Atlanta Braves. Markakis debuted at age 22 with the Orioles in 2006 and spent nine seasons as a durable right fielder for the club, batting .290 with a .793 OPS and winning two Gold Glove awards. In his final season, 2014, Markakis was an everyday player for a team that won 96 games to claim the American League East division title and ultimately reached the American League Championship Series.

The Orioles, though, had questions about how healthy he would be the rest of his career and didn’t sign him back once he hit free agency after that playoff run. Markakis instead joined the Atlanta Braves and proved those concerns to be unfounded. He played no fewer than 156 games in a season in his initial four-year contract there, and made his first All-Star appearance in 2018 at Nationals Park. He added his third Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger award that year. The 15-year big-league veteran finished with 2,388 hits and 189 home runs in his career. - Baltimore Sun, March 2021

His 2008 season was great but was utterly unappreciated and forgotten. Nick Markakis led the American League in WAR with 7.4 and did not receive an MVP vote, make the All-Star team, win a Silver Slugger or take home a Gold Glove. For a long time and until 2018, he was also the answer to the fun fact of who had the highest career WAR without ever having received an MVP vote. Finally in Atlanta, he finished 18th in the NL vote.

Made a facegen for him. The "before" I have is not from the CU Faceback (which indeed has him missing) but rather is from the ship-with-the-game faces from a couple years ago when he was active. He was a beard guy in Atlanta but having seen him in the AL East for many years, he was more of a forgot-to-shave kind of guy.

[ChrisJNelson]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

made a facegen for him. The "before" I have is not from the CU Faceback (which indeed has him missing) but rather is from the ship-with-the-game faces from a couple years ago when he was active. He was a beard guy in Atlanta but having seen him in the AL East for many years, he was more of a forgot-to-shave kind of guy.

Thank you for the quick work on this! I didn't realize that some of the more recent guys that shipped with the games weren't in this massive set!

Also looking for Matt Wieters and Corey Patterson if anyone has them--they don't need to be made new though. I'd take what came with game in recent years if someone knows where those live!

[LansdowneSt]

Before the 2000 season, Baseball America rated Corey Patterson as the No. 3 prospect in baseball. The next year, he was moved up to No. 2, behind only another center fielder named Josh Hamilton. The Cubs rushed him through the majors and he debuted just a few weeks after his 21st birthday. They loved his makeup and work ethic. When the Cubs drafted Mark Prior in 2001, Cubs fans could envision the future: Patterson leading the offense, Prior leading the pitching, and pennants coming to Wrigley. But baseball is a difficult sport. Athletic ability and tools aren’t always enough. Young talent disappoints as often as it surprises. That scouting report on Patterson hinted at a couple of problems: He had hit just .195 in the minors against left-handed pitching. His plate discipline needed improvement. Those, indeed, would become his tragic flaws. - ESPN.com

When his career concluded, Patterson had played in 1,230 games, accumulated 1,050 hits, 118 HRs and 218 steals and an overall slash line of .252/.290/.400.

I found a before for him in the CU Facepack. Check the editor and see what is Historical ID is. It should be: patter001don. I redid it anyway. I assume you are in the late 2000's playing as the Orioles based on the names

[ChrisJNelson]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

I found a before for him in the CU Facepack. Check the editor and see what is Historical ID is. It should be: patter001don. I redid it anyway. I assume you are in the late 2000's playing as the Orioles based on the names

I'm actually playing present-day Orioles but I like to make my entire staff former players of the franchise I'm running!

[LansdowneSt]

Matt Wieters was rated the number one prospect in all of baseball in 2009 by Baseball Prospectus and number two by MLB.com. It’s hard to overstate the expectations for Wieters before he made his debut. He fell to the fifth pick overall in the 2007 draft only due to signing bonus demands. Wieters crashed on to the scene and destroyed minor league baseball. This was around the time that Wieters got the infamous “Mauer with Power,” "Orange Jesus," and “Switch Hitting Jesus” labels. Wieters was expected to be an All-Star year in and year out, an MVP contender, and a would-be Hall of Famer. He was expected to play great defense and be one of the best hitters in the game.

Overall, Wieters was an excellent defensive catcher especially earlier on in his career. He was a better framer in his younger and more nimbler years. He always had a cannon and deadly accurate arm. At the plate he always underwhelmed. Wieters did not strike out a lot, but it was too much. He walked a bit, but not enough. He hit for some power, but never enough. A well-rounded hitter, just not a very good one. However, the only reason that he disappointed were the massive expectations thrust upon him by the prospect industrial complex. He was a fine player for the Orioles and having an average to above average catcher is a great thing to have. - camdenchat.com

You asked for the comes-with-game fg ... well, that's the before picture here. If a player is active, they come with the game so this is from OOTP 17 or 18 or some time from the recent past and I had just archived it. I redid the facegen as he isn't in the CU Facepack. Make sure when you import a player (to be a player or coach) you are doing so from the historic database file as that's the one with the correct Historic codes. OOTP has said they'll fix all the other databases to align with it but for now, that's the database that has the correct fg files names in it.

[LansdowneSt]

Outfielder LeGrant Scott lettered in baseball at the University of Alabama in 1933 and 1934 and was signed by the Birmingham Barons of the Southern Association at the end of the school year in '34. He would spend the next five seasons (1934-1938) with the Barons, hitting over the .300 mark in three of the five years, before being drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies in the 1938 Rule V Draft. Scott would spend his only season in the major leagues with the Phillies, making his debut on April 19, 1939 and appearing in 76 games and hitting at a .280 clip before being sent down to the Indianapolis Indians of the American Association, where he finished out the remainder of the year. His minor league career shows he appeared in 1,175 games, hit at a .313 average with 66 home runs.

Redid the facegen as I catch up on the several fg's I still owe luckymann...

[luckymann]

Righto bud here's one I'm sure you'll either have already or be happy to do - Mr Why Not Us himself, Kevin Millar has got a stupid grin on the one included in the CU pack and I'd love to wipe it off him as politely as possible.

Ta

G

[The Game]

Came across George Bechtel in a RD league. I checked this thread for him 1st. I did not check Lans thread.