New Non-HW Boxers Rated - Page 71

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 06:37 AM

BALTIMORE MIKE WILLIAMS - JMW (1984-1993) Overall Rating = 1

Hometown - Baltimore, Maryland, USA

0-8-0

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 06:38 AM

Baltimore Mike Williams

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 06:43 AM

Harry Fenn - LW (1925-1930) Overall Rating = 1

Born - England

3(1)-3-0

Lost decisions to George Rose and Fred Webster.

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 06:44 AM

Harry Fenn

Jim Trunzo · 10-06-2005, 08:31 AM

Just wanted to say that I think these are great threads. It's no secret that I don't know everything about every fighter who ever laced up the gloves and it's also no secret that ratings are subjective. So I follow these with interest.

It's always fascinating to me to see whose rating produce the more accurate result when a fighter is matched against others whom he actually fought (at the correct career stage and multiple times to prevent a fluke).

I think fighters are getting "lost" because of the way Andreas has "linked" all versions of a fighter under RATINGS, with only one of those showing in the division lists.

For example, Sugar Ray Robinson, if set to a default at ww, won't show as a middleweight, or if defaulted to mw, won't show as a ww. As a matter of fact, I had a letter from someone who couldn't believe Robinson wasn't in the game as a welterweight!

The new FAQ (parts 1, 2 and now 3) will take a look at this "issue".

In the meantime, keep up the good work.

mh2365 · 10-06-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Trunzo

I think fighters are getting "lost" because of the way Andreas has "linked" all versions of a fighter under RATINGS, with only one of those showing in the division lists.

For example, Sugar Ray Robinson, if set to a default at ww, won't show as a middleweight, or if defaulted to mw, won't show as a ww. As a matter of fact, I had a letter from someone who couldn't believe Robinson wasn't in the game as a welterweight!

The new FAQ (parts 1, 2 and now 3) will take a look at this "issue".

In the meantime, keep up the good work.

It's a narrow view though, because while it was a pain to get used to at first it is easily outweighed by the convenience of being able to have their record all in one spot. Once explained the new way is by far better ... just my opinion though.

Didn't mention it in the other thread but welcome back Jim and sorry to hear about your illness. Wish you all the best.

IceTea · 10-06-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Baltimore Mike Williams

Looks like the other Mike Williams that I have been looking for. He lost to buster douglas in 1988.

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IceTea

Looks like the other Mike Williams that I have been looking for. He lost to buster douglas in 1988.

He does look a tad big for a MW, but he was listed as the Mike Williams from Baltimore that lost to Lee Cargle. Could be the heavyweight Mike Williams though.

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 12:28 PM

SANDERLINE WILLIAMS - SMW (1982-1993) Overall Rating = 4

Hometown - Cleveland, Ohio, USA

24(14)-15-1

A tough Cleveland middleweight that dropped decisions to James Toney, Reggie Johnson, Nigel Benn, Merqui Sosa, Caveman Lee, Frank Tate, Iran Barkley and Herol Graham. He drew with Toney and out-pointed Dwight Davison. His only career stoppage loss came at the hands of Lindell Holmes.

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 12:29 PM

Sanderline Williams

IceTea · 10-06-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

He does look a tad big for a MW, but he was listed as the Mike Williams from Baltimore that lost to Lee Cargle. Could be the heavyweight Mike Williams though.

I think it is the heavyweight. He also played in Rocky V and has had minor parts in a dozen other movies.

MJ

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IceTea

I think it is the heavyweight. He also played in Rocky V and has had minor parts in a dozen other movies.

MJ

Does anyone have a copy of rocky V that they could check? (I have no desire to sit through it again

)

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 12:46 PM

JESSE "Bang Bang" WILLIAMS - WW (1984-1991) Overall Rating = 3

Hometown - Orlando, Florida, USA

Florida State Lightweight Champion

Williams' career highlight was a ten round split decision over Prudencio Cardona in Miami. He suffered losses to some good fighters including Juan Martin Coggi, Lupe Suarez, Calvin Grove and Simon Skosana. He was stopped five times.

CONN CHRIS · 10-06-2005, 12:46 PM

Jesse Williams

IceTea · 10-06-2005, 12:50 PM

Mike Williams HW

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10-06-2005, 08:31 AM	#1055
Jim Trunzo OOTP Developments Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Leechburg, PA Posts: 739	On Boxer Ratings Just wanted to say that I think these are great threads. It's no secret that I don't know everything about every fighter who ever laced up the gloves and it's also no secret that ratings are subjective. So I follow these with interest. It's always fascinating to me to see whose rating produce the more accurate result when a fighter is matched against others whom he actually fought (at the correct career stage and multiple times to prevent a fluke). I think fighters are getting "lost" because of the way Andreas has "linked" all versions of a fighter under RATINGS, with only one of those showing in the division lists. For example, Sugar Ray Robinson, if set to a default at ww, won't show as a middleweight, or if defaulted to mw, won't show as a ww. As a matter of fact, I had a letter from someone who couldn't believe Robinson wasn't in the game as a welterweight! The new FAQ (parts 1, 2 and now 3) will take a look at this "issue". In the meantime, keep up the good work.

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