Historical database issues

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by DB930

John W Russell (russel005joh), the 1980s backup catcher, doesn't have the J in his first name capitalized.

Fixed

[clamel]

Originally Posted by Spritze

Starts in 1992 in my test league as a FA since his first year was on a split squad Cubs/Diamondbacks which is not currently supported.

So why would he not pop up in mine until 1997 as a major leaguer. Is the split the real reason ?
If you started in 1992 he might very well be in, but I started earlier so that might be a reason.

Finding out why is the key. What more players might also be omitted now and then.

I will try a couple of other sets starting in different years prior to 1992 and see if it happens again. If not, it must be a very odd occasion.

TESTED it out. started in 1992 Geremi is in, then start in 1991 and after the Post-season ends he do pop up in Cubs.
So was this a freak happening that can't be explained then ?
A bit scary, for now we don't know who never gets imported in minors. Hopefully they pop up later on IF they ever make it to the Majors.
I do use most normal settings. Import all-minors No draft, everything else is "standard"

[Spritze]

I have no idea what setting might cause this issue. For testing I always use out-of-the-box settings unless the bug report includes specific settings. Your report did not.

[clamel]

Originally Posted by Spritze

I have no idea what setting might cause this issue. For testing I always use out-of-the-box settings unless the bug report includes specific settings. Your report did not.

Well, freak thing. But consider it one time - no time, until something similar pops up.
Maybe another case of Lex - Posada

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by sprague

Thought i should post here also to be seen
Had a thread historical potential.

Started a game no minors 2013
About 20 players came in with 250 contact ratings.
Screenshot in thread.

Going to test out a few other years today.

Ratings are generated by your personal game settings. They do not exist in the historical database.

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by MightyVotto

I'm noticing an old, previously squashed bug appearing again with historical replay leagues. I started a replay league in 1901 and simmed to 1909 with the intent of playing out the 1909 season. I'm using real transactions but not real lineups.

Everything's fine for the players who were imported in from the beginning in 1901. However, once new players come into the league beginning in 1902 and onward, they get imported in with their 2nd year's stat ratings rather than their first year.

For example, Home Run Baker's debut season is 1908. His ratings look more like his 1909 stats. When I transition to 1909, his ratings match up more with his 1910 real life stats. I'm seeing this for all players who came into the league after 1901.

The season ages for all players in the Real Life Stats tab are always one year off from what their BBRef profile says as well. I'm wondering if this may be causing the mismatched imports. In 1909, Baker was 23. The Real Life Stats tab displays 22 for him for that year.

This is annoying if you want to play replay leagues since the results won't mirror historical results. Ruth's 1919 will actually be his 1920 and on and on.

Please repost this one level up in the bug reports thread. This is not a database issue.

[sprague]

Originally Posted by Spritze

Ratings are generated by your personal game settings. They do not exist in the historical database.

I think you misunderstood my post.
It definately comes from the database...
In the edit player, those ratings are direct from the db on a game load.
And for 2013 at least 20 players were all rated with a 250 contact potential...when no one should be anywhere close based on 2014-17 have anything like that. Yet all the other players in the DB seem to be rated correctly.
Pull up a 2013 start with no minors and check some of those players to see how many have an 80 contact rating, from a 250 potential contact rating in their base ratings call up

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by sprague

I think you misunderstood my post.
It definately comes from the database...
In the edit player, those ratings are direct from the db on a game load.
And for 2013 at least 20 players were all rated with a 250 contact potential...when no one should be anywhere close based on 2014-17 have anything like that. Yet all the other players in the DB seem to be rated correctly.
Pull up a 2013 start with no minors and check some of those players to see how many have an 80 contact rating, from a 250 potential contact rating in their base ratings call up

The database only houses a very few fielding ratings. No batter or pitching ratings exist. Just IRL stats. Ratings come from the settings you choose during game setup.

[sprague]

Originally Posted by Spritze

The database only houses a very few fielding ratings. No batter or pitching ratings exist. Just IRL stats. Ratings come from the settings you choose during game setup.

You misunderstood what I meant. Forget the word ratings...I don't mean the 1-20 scale or 20-80 scale.
I mean the actual real and potential batting numbers that import in from the database, for a few players the contact potential value imports incorrect.
I called up another 2013 game.there were less anomalies this time, but still a few like the players below. Both should not have those kind of potential ratings. Ramirez should not be close to 244 or Brown with a 211 import. Adrian Gonzalez imported at 232 for example. The highest base rating was meant to be Altuve with 180 which seems correct.
Of course neither will ever reach that potential if you play out with development due to age, but the AI may see those players incorrect in trades and whatnot. And this could be happening for other seasons as well.

[Spritze]

There are no "potential" stats in the database either. Those come from the choices you make when setting up your league. I double checked the IRL stats for these players which are in the database looking for typos. I did not find any.

This challenge may be caused by an error in the OOTP program or in some ancillary file I have no knowledge of.

I'd post this issue one level up in the bug reports thread.

[tom_burr]

I'm currently doing an Historical Replay of the 1927 season and I'm managing the New York Yankees. I'm playing the same schedule as played during that season. This is my third attempt, following one freeze-up and one Safari quit. The good news: I am now doing backups. The bad news: WeÂ’ll see.

Date is 26/06/1927, with the Yankees record sitting at 51W-12L.
Game 1 of a doubleheader v. Philadelphia showed that George Pipgras was to be the starting pitcher. That didn't happen; Miles Thomas was.
Game 2 of the same doubleheader shows George Pigras is to be the starter. I'm guessing he won't be.

The problem is found in the five-man rotation, which has become only four.
Current Game Totals for the five pitchers assigned to be starters:
Hoyt: 15
Pennock: 12
Pipgras: 4
Ruether: 12
Shocker: 13
Under the heading of "Yankees", the sub-heading of "Pitching Staff" and the sub-sub-heading of "Rotation Settings", it says the following:
Rotation Size: 5-Man Rotation
Next Starter: 2-G. Pipgras
Rotation Mode: Strict, on occasion highest rested
Allow SP in Relief: No.

Game log for George Pipgras thus far: 05/30, 05/10 05/03 and 04/19.
Injury History is blank for both him and for the club.

Any attempt to Click/Drag Pipgras over as Game Starter, before the start of a game, fails after I start the game and I have attempted this at least ten times. His name does drop to be the Starter, but when I click "Play Ball!" on the left side or click on the game to be played in the drop-down menu of "Play" on the right side, it changes the starter to someone else.
For the record, none of these settings have been altered by me.

[tom_burr]

I'm currently doing an Historical Replay of the 1927 season and I'm managing the New York Yankees. I'm playing the same schedule as played during that season. This is my third attempt, following one freeze-up and one Safari quit. The good news: I am now doing backups. The bad news: We’ll see.

Date is 26/06/1927, with the Yankees record sitting at 51W-12L.
Game 1 of a doubleheader v. Philadelphia showed that George Pipgras was to be the starting pitcher. That didn't happen; Miles Thomas was.
Game 2 of the same doubleheader shows George Pigras is to be the starter. I'm guessing he won't be.

The problem is found in the five-man rotation, which has become only four.
Current Game Totals for the five pitchers assigned to be starters:
Hoyt: 15
Pennock: 12
Pipgras: 4
Ruether: 12
Shocker: 13
Under the heading of "Yankees", the sub-heading of "Pitching Staff" and the sub-sub-heading of "Rotation Settings", it says the following:
Rotation Size: 5-Man Rotation
Next Starter: 2-G. Pipgras
Rotation Mode: Strict, on occasion highest rested
Allow SP in Relief: No.

Game log for George Pipgras thus far: 05/30, 05/10 05/03 and 04/19.
Injury History is blank for both him and for the club.

Any attempt to Click/Drag Pipgras over as Game Starter, before the start of a game, fails after I start the game and I have attempted this at least ten times. His name does drop to be the Starter, but when I click "Play Ball!" on the left side or click on the game to be played in the drop-down menu of "Play" on the right side, it changes the starter to someone else.
For the record, none of these settings have been altered by me.

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by tom_burr

I'm currently doing an Historical Replay of the 1927 season and I'm managing the New York Yankees. I'm playing the same schedule as played during that season. This is my third attempt, following one freeze-up and one Safari quit. The good news: I am now doing backups. The bad news: WeÂ’ll see.

Date is 26/06/1927, with the Yankees record sitting at 51W-12L.
Game 1 of a doubleheader v. Philadelphia showed that George Pipgras was to be the starting pitcher. That didn't happen; Miles Thomas was.
Game 2 of the same doubleheader shows George Pigras is to be the starter. I'm guessing he won't be.

The problem is found in the five-man rotation, which has become only four.
Current Game Totals for the five pitchers assigned to be starters:
Hoyt: 15
Pennock: 12
Pipgras: 4
Ruether: 12
Shocker: 13
Under the heading of "Yankees", the sub-heading of "Pitching Staff" and the sub-sub-heading of "Rotation Settings", it says the following:
Rotation Size: 5-Man Rotation
Next Starter: 2-G. Pipgras
Rotation Mode: Strict, on occasion highest rested
Allow SP in Relief: No.

Game log for George Pipgras thus far: 05/30, 05/10 05/03 and 04/19.
Injury History is blank for both him and for the club.

Any attempt to Click/Drag Pipgras over as Game Starter, before the start of a game, fails after I start the game and I have attempted this at least ten times. His name does drop to be the Starter, but when I click "Play Ball!" on the left side or click on the game to be played in the drop-down menu of "Play" on the right side, it changes the starter to someone else.
For the record, none of these settings have been altered by me.

This is not controlled by the database. It is a gameplay issue and belongs in the game bug reports one level up.

There are several gameplay ways to put Pipgras to work.

[tom_burr]

I've been told by another member that "the game report one level up" is for current rosters only.
Re: 1927 New York Yankees Starting Rotation.
In the last three games:
"Your Starter": Waite Hoyt; no, George Pipgras ('member him?)
"Your Starter": Waite Hoyt; no, Myles Thomas
"Your Starter": Waite Hoyt; no, Hern Pennock.
Waite Hoyt:
"Health Status"=OK
"Rest Status"=100%-Rested

[ohiodevil]

Originally Posted by tom_burr

I've been told by another member that "the game report one level up" is for current rosters only.
Re: 1927 New York Yankees Starting Rotation.
In the last three games:
"Your Starter": Waite Hoyt; no, George Pipgras ('member him?)
"Your Starter": Waite Hoyt; no, Myles Thomas
"Your Starter": Waite Hoyt; no, Hern Pennock.
Waite Hoyt:
"Health Status"=OK
"Rest Status"=100%-Rested

One level up is the main tech support board....create a new thread and post it in here.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...lay.php?f=3937

I thought this was a database issue which was why I said to post in here, but Spritze knows this database inside and out, so it does sound like it could be a game issue, not database....sorry for the confusion.

[scott1964]

Not sure what to make of this


Two guys with the same first name and a slight variation of the last name, Ice Box Chamberlin/Chamberlain


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Box_Chamberlain

[Spritze]

Fixed

[msc123123]

I imported historical players and when I did that it turned some of my other historical free agents who I imported last year into no-name, no-age individuals. Then once I saved and went back to my file the game assigned them all the name of Smith Smith. Here's a screenshot of one of the players:

[Spritze]

Please repost this bug one level up in the general bug reports thread. This is not a database issue.

[JaBurns]

I believe Rube Vickers is not a Canadian but actually an American born in Hillsdale, Michigan as Harry Porter Vickers.