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[Mordrehl]

Originally Posted by djskek

Help me, what ist Shooting Range?

please describe in english or explain to German

I can not find correct German translation for it.

How far from the net the player can shoot and still be accurate.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

How far from the net the player can shoot and still be accurate.

To be a little more precise, it's the longest range at which he can shoot with maximum accuracy - but if he's got a good accuracy rating, he may still be relatively accurate from farther out. It's approximately the distance in metres away from the goaltender (assuming the goalie's in his crease) - the 20-point system just happened to fit nicely with the dimensions of the offensive zone, since 20m is roughly the distance (on NHL ice) from a defenceman standing inside the blue line, near the boards, to the crease.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

See, I complained about this in the previous versions as well.

Unless the player is coming off a very good 3 years on his Entry Level Contract, he should NOT be holding out for 6+ million a year. That doesn't even make sense. I could go dig up recent contract history that proves this.

An example from the last time I bothered playing FHM (and haven't touched it since) ... Lars Eller on Montreal

From memory ... 7.5/7.5 ability/potential
Coming off three years of around 40pts

Demanding and refusing to sign for less than 6m/year. That is just unrealistic.


Sure your first round draft pick who led the team in goals in his final year of the ELC probably gets that, but your other rookies who averaged 0.5ppg should be asking for less than 6m/year and signing for between 2.5-5.0m/year depending on how good they are.

As I said then, Eller was overrated. I cut his numbers down some - although maybe not quite far enough, he's still getting 40ish points in 2013-14. Even with that exaggerated total, AI-run Montreal is now re-signing him for about $4.8m. A human player could probably do a little better.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by djskek

The salary demands of the North American Free Agents are much too high. Impossible to pay as a European club.

NHL-caliber players will demand something close to NHL-level wages. That's going to be difficult to match for most European leagues. Players at the AHL and ECHL level are very willing to sign for salaries in the $100k-500k range.

[asilvermtzion]

is there a time limit on how long a player is unhappy when sent to the ahl? i have a couple of 20 year old players who were sent down and played a full ahl season who are still unhappy or angry. none of those players were promised roles greater than 'hot prospect'.

[djskek]

Deutsche Eishockey Liga:

The minor option don't work. (with new signings and contract extensions.)

Minor option button can not activate it (contract negotiation). 2 Way contract can offer you, still you can not send this player to partner club or youth club.






(Game say, Player has no Minor option, If I want to move him to another team )




minor option button can't activate (whether contract renewal or new signings)

[BlackIce]

I'm getting to the point I'm almost second guessing if anyone has hockey knowledge over there in OOTP headquarters because I'm getting very annoyed and frustrated at the fact the same damned bugs and problems that have haunted this game from the start is still in the game.

I realize the coding is far beyond my knowledge capabilities and the technicalities that go along with it but some of the things in this game is fricken laziness!!!!

Instead of a thousand people writing about what the training relates to why here's an idea...

- Training sessions could include what attributes are effected in brackets next to the TRAINING OPTIONS to eliminate the need of going to a manual or trying to remember after not playing for a week or two

- Fighting is unrealistic.... PERIOD! although this isn't a huge part of the game
to some people it IS still a huge part of the game to others including MYSELF
Enforcers should be fighting other Enforcers not the Cory Perry's of the league.

- Would it kill you all to add a fighting frequency slider which would allow for more fisticuffs in the season for people that want to mimic the older and rougher days of the NHL which included the likes of Domi, Probert, Brown, Odjick, Gaetz, McSorley, McCarthy ??

-After clicking on a UFA / Personnel I wish to view and hit the back button, it sends me back to the start of the list. Can it not just go back to where I left off on the list ???

- Trade engine is absolute garbage.. still!!
Simmed three games off the get go and Anaheim sends they're top prospect Hampus Lindholm to Nashville for Goalie Mazanek, a 32 yr old AHL'er and a crap prospect with a ability of 5.0.

- Signing players.... SEE signing Stub. RFA post in the forum section!

- Dynasty Forums... why ??? The game is spitting out bogus stuff and people want to log a journal for the game failing to measure up to what SHOULDN'T be at this time and stage. Reading about loosing players and the ability to find it impossible to build a team because of the bugs doesn't amuse me.

[asilvermtzion]

when i have the team control settings set so that i manage roster moves and transactions, the ai should not have any ability to make moves at all. as i mentioned before, the ai traded chris stewart for a 5th and waived 7 players and lately has been bringing players up from the ahl randomly after ive made trades. trades that do not involve any players coming to or moving from my nhl roster.

[asilvermtzion]

this is the last one, i swear...

id love to be able to have more feedback when making a trade. for example, i offered loui eriksson (expiring contract) and a 20 year old 6.5 prospect d man for sam gagner (also expiring contract). the oilers (who needed a lw) respond with "the trade is close to being alright". ok, so what can make it alright? maybe some indication while in the trade screen? i really like the way ootpb does it with the list of acceptable players.

by the way, when i go back to the trade, it only becomes alright when i add a first and second round pick... the difference between a 30 year old loui eriksson and a 26 year old sam gagner is not a first and a second. especially when erikssons numbers are better than gagners for the past 3 seasons of my sim.

[howeandhowe]

so, I'm not able to get my scouts to do anything even though they are assigned. how long should scouts be assigned to get an opinion (even if it's terrible) on a player or an entire team, league, nation region?

Do the scouts post reviews in the news area or do the reviews only show up in the player scouting tab?

Thanks!

[Orioles1966]

Originally Posted by howeandhowe

so, I'm not able to get my scouts to do anything even though they are assigned.

Thanks!

Do you work for the Toronto Maple Leafs?

[howeandhowe]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Do you work for the Toronto Maple Leafs?

owwwwww......

[howeandhowe]

Originally Posted by howeandhowe

so, I'm not able to get my scouts to do anything even though they are assigned. how long should scouts be assigned to get an opinion (even if it's terrible) on a player or an entire team, league, nation region?

Do the scouts post reviews in the news area or do the reviews only show up in the player scouting tab?

Thanks!

Yippee. scouting reports!!!!!

[asilvermtzion]

Originally Posted by howeandhowe

Yippee. scouting reports!!!!!

they show up in the news. you can choose when at the bottom of the scouting assignment screen. thats also where you can choose the length of the assignment, up to 16 weeks.

[Empach]

Wow, the contract negotiations are kinda crazy. I'm running the Sabres and in September of the third season. Trying to sign some of my young players to extensions. I've kept these guys in the minors for development reasons (and partly because of the ability changing bug).

Girgensons 5 games/3 points 7.5 ability - wants 6.4m/4y
Armia 19g/17p 7.5 ability - wants 6.4m/4y
Grigorenko 39g/9p 7.5 ability refused to negotiate at all.
Ristolainen 1g/0p 7.5 ability - wants 6.1m/5y

*Abilities might not be accurate

That's just not right. Game needs to take performance into account more.

[umwoz]

Originally Posted by Empach

Wow, the contract negotiations are kinda crazy. I'm running the Sabres and in September of the third season. Trying to sign some of my young players to extensions. I've kept these guys in the minors for development reasons (and partly because of the ability changing bug).

Girgensons 5 games/3 points 7.5 ability - wants 6.4m/4y
Armia 19g/17p 7.5 ability - wants 6.4m/4y
Grigorenko 39g/9p 7.5 ability refused to negotiate at all.
Ristolainen 1g/0p 7.5 ability - wants 6.1m/5y

*Abilities might not be accurate

That's just not right. Game needs to take performance into account more.

The stats you listed are completely useless, too small sample size. What'd they do the year before.

Also, I don't know how well it is implemented currently but the negotiation seems to be a bit of a back and forth to iron out a number.

[Empach]

Originally Posted by umwoz

The stats you listed are completely useless, too small sample size. What'd they do the year before.

Also, I don't know how well it is implemented currently but the negotiation seems to be a bit of a back and forth to iron out a number.

Those are their career NHL totals into the 2015 season. Just before the third season of their entry deal.

[IvanIvanovich]

Originally Posted by JeffR

As I said then, Eller was overrated. I cut his numbers down some - although maybe not quite far enough, he's still getting 40ish points in 2013-14. Even with that exaggerated total, AI-run Montreal is now re-signing him for about $4.8m. A human player could probably do a little better.

It is every single player that is coming off their entry contract!

1. During the season the GM is required to file a qualifying offer in order for the players status to change from unqualified RFA to qualified RFA in order not to lose the player to FA.

2. IRL these qualifying offers are always at league minimum! They are NOT meant to be taken seriously, not by the team nor by the player and his agent.

3. When filing such a qualifying offer at the league minimum the player invariably turns sour and refuses to even speak to you for the entire season.

This is NOT right!

4. During the off season you can start talking to the players that now have turned RFA. They ALL demand ridiculous amounts!

Examples:

28 year old 4th-liner, been playing fourth line his entire career in the NHL. Is coming off a 3 year contract for 1.7mil/year - He now demands 6 mil/y

21 year old that's just come off his rookie year with 20 points in 70 games - He now demands 7 mil/y

24 year old 7th D, played 28 games last season with 8 points and -10 - He wants 5 mil/y

25 year old Goalie that never have played a single NHL game in his career, played last year in the ECHL - He now demands a one way contract for 3 mil/y

5. When negotiating with the player he expects me to up my bid by 3-4 millions but he will not lower his demands with more than 10-20 thousand at a pop!

This is wrong on so many levels that it is taking the fun out of the game.

What's the point of trying to scout and find players when they never resign with you?

Ivan

[thepete]

Originally Posted by IvanIvanovich

2. IRL these qualifying offers are always at league minimum! They are NOT meant to be taken seriously, not by the team nor by the player and his agent.

Not true. QO are 0-10% of last season's salary, depending on the dollar amount. Players sign QOs, from time to time.

[IvanIvanovich]

Originally Posted by thepete

Not true. QO are 0-10% of last season's salary, depending on the dollar amount. Players sign QOs, from time to time.

They are at the lowest possible dollar amount they can be and still be qualifying.

No player ever in the history of the NHL have been so pissed off by receiving one that they have refused to consider any future contract offers by his team.

Why should the players in this game be so every single time?

Ivan