OOTP 2008 Real Rosters discussion - Page 7

jbergey22 · 01-09-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

No.

These are ratings of a few people. Where are the stats?

My bad, I guess that was one of the reasons I thought I paid for the update was for this roster that is suppose to work. I have run test seasons and it is messed up as all the current day players end up with poor fielding ratings within 3-4 years but I guess you want to ignore that. Unfortunately I dont have the time to mess around all day running different tests to "show you proof" so I guess nothing will get done about this.

Erich Ingram · 01-09-2008, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22

My bad, I guess that was one of the reasons I thought I paid for the update was for this roster that is suppose to work. I have run test seasons and it is messed up as all the current day players end up with poor fielding ratings within 3-4 years but I guess you want to ignore that. Unfortunately I dont have the time to mess around all day running different tests to "show you proof" so I guess nothing will get done about this.

Actually a couple of us are trying to figure out why this is happening. At this point I have no idea, but will continue to try and figure out the issue. As for some of the other things I am trying to get things cleaned up a bit on the file so that it works better and has more "stuff" in it for everyone.

jbergey22 · 01-09-2008, 03:45 PM

Thanks Erich, much appreciated!

NomarHits400 · 01-13-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

No.

These are ratings of a few people. Where are the stats?

Erich has commented on this already but I just want to make this clear: This isn't about the stat's- though errors do go up (at least until the AI refuses to play these players anymore).. And that's the point. These player's are so poor they can no longer play ANY position in the field...so the AI doesn't play them. 31, 32 year old players who are physically incapable of taking the field. How can I be any more clear about this? This isn't about a few people. It would be easier to find the exceptions.

If this is realistic for you, then you didn't need an accurate roster set to begin with. I am not going to do the obvious math. Heck, pull up the roster set before simming a day and look how many 31+ players logged significant time in 2006 vs. 2011. My examples were just that; I thought I stated that the problem was rampant..I guess I will need to go back and re-read my first post.

jbergey22 · 01-17-2008, 06:59 PM

Any news for us Erich?

Erich Ingram · 01-17-2008, 09:00 PM

Sorry guys been slammed with work the last few days. Tonight is the first time I have even opened OOTP since last Thursday

Nutlaw · 01-20-2008, 08:53 PM

I haven't read through any of the posts here, but I'm linking Tech Support threads related to this Quickstart:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=158497

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=158859

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=159567

Erich Ingram · 01-23-2008, 03:48 PM

The third one which relates to the Iowa Cubs is due to a mistake in the schedule in which the Cubs were not scheduled to play any games but another team was given a double schedule. I have gone through and cleaned this up in the schedule I do believe since then and when we get a new version out to people it should be ok.

pseudofool · 01-30-2008, 02:42 AM

Does this set actually work, or are their instability problems the crop over time? If it works I'll buy 8, if not I'll just wait for 9, and continue working with Cubby's set on 2007.

Erich Ingram · 01-30-2008, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseudofool

Does this set actually work, or are their instability problems the crop over time? If it works I'll buy 8, if not I'll just wait for 9, and continue working with Cubby's set on 2007.

Right now it seems there are issues with defensive ratings tanking on some players. We are trying to get it worked out.

Wheele8 · 02-05-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich Ingram

Right now it seems there are issues with defensive ratings tanking on some players. We are trying to get it worked out.

Any updates on this? Eagerly awaiting a fix.

kdude_62888 · 02-06-2008, 01:59 PM

i was wondering if u could send me one of your roster files so i could update the mariners minor league system becasue everytime you put out a new roster i hate creating everyone again so after im done i could send you back the roster let me know what you think

kagnew35 · 02-11-2008, 07:55 PM

Am not a techie, but have wondered for awhile, just how accurate a roster set going past current yrears can stay. does this aging crash problem have any possible relationship to not having actual numbers? When the game engine runs out of actual stats, how does it react?What does it base ratings on?
I have personally decided that roster sets are really only good for a 1 year sim. In the future i will only play from past years and using a DB as I have no interest in fictional players and getting ahead of history.

Nutlaw · 02-19-2008, 06:10 PM

Another comment regarding the roster set:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=161758

PSUColonel · 03-01-2008, 04:47 PM

I see there are a whole host of stadiums in this set, but that none are assigned to minor league teams. Are these ballparks actual minor league parks, or are they fictional? If they are real, how can I figure out which park goes with what team? Also, when it comes to weather, what takes precedence, the team city, or the stadium city? In other words, which determines weather effects?

PSUColonel · 03-02-2008, 11:37 PM

Anyone?...How do you know which ballparks should be assigned to which minor league teams? None of them appear to be real.

captainemo8 · 04-17-2008, 10:53 PM

How do I reset the injuries that come with the OOTP 8 MLB rosters?

I wanted to run a realistic season with the 2008 rosters with Cubbyfan's set but I am playing with the Yankees and their stats through the first 20 games are just ridiculous!

Please help!

Vopat · 06-09-2008, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich Ingram

Did you look at the defunct teams with the California Angels getting the stats.

I looked and can't find any stats for that organization for about 4 decades.
Does anyone have a roster set with correct correct history and minor league teams? I am not looking for an up to date roster set, just one that actually has the history for all the MLB teams that is fairly recent.

masterchief34 · 06-22-2008, 05:17 AM

Anyone have updated rosters for OOTP 8? The newest set I can find is Cubby Fan's November update.

1998 Yankees · 07-04-2008, 01:25 PM

I could not find the MLB Quick Start thread on the General Discussions board, so I'll post these here if you don't mind.

First, the addition of the AZL Padres is accurate, of course, but it renders the MLB Quick Start useless for generating and saving a template for a future game. Try it; you can save it as a template but if you try to use it to start a new game, it comes up with an error and abends. The message is something about having an odd number of teams (9) in the Arizona League. (Edit: See below.)

Second, it's the Greenville (SC) Drive in the South Atlantic League, and the Greeneville (TN) Astros in the Appalachian League. The difference is the "e" after "Green." It's funny how this switcheroo has been perpetuated over the years; I remember correcting this at least three times. Gamers should remember to rename the team logos to match.

Edit: Here's the template error message:

Edit 2: Yes, I am aware that you can still alter teams and division alignments in templates as you load them; however, when you select the AZL to reduce it to eight teams, the game puts in all fictional data, including removing the MLB affiliations. Better have an idea of who was who, where they played, and whom they reported to when that happens. Instead, the way I got around it was to reassign in the quickstart game the AZL team of the Royals, who already had 7 minor league affiliates including three rookie teams, to the Padres who had no rookie league team at all. Then I saved it as a template, etc. You can add the AZL Padres to the new game if desired; I left it the way I had it.

Edit 3: Why would I want to save it as a template, you ask? (You do?

) Well, the main reason is that I want to start my Millennium League in 2001 and a quickstart does not allow you to make any changes in the start year. Otherwise, this MLB Quickstart game was a damned fine effort and I would have used it as is (except flushing out the real players and stocking up with fictional ones) if it were not for the start year. This way, I get the team and league setup (and parks.dat and downloaded logos, uniforms, etc. copied from the quickstart game) as well as the capability of starting my game in 2001.

01-17-2008, 09:00 PM	#126
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,217	Sorry guys been slammed with work the last few days. Tonight is the first time I have even opened OOTP since last Thursday __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

01-23-2008, 03:48 PM	#128
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,217	The third one which relates to the Iowa Cubs is due to a mistake in the schedule in which the Cubs were not scheduled to play any games but another team was given a double schedule. I have gone through and cleaned this up in the schedule I do believe since then and when we get a new version out to people it should be ok. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

02-06-2008, 01:59 PM	#132
kdude_62888 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	hey cubby i was wondering if u could send me one of your roster files so i could update the mariners minor league system becasue everytime you put out a new roster i hate creating everyone again so after im done i could send you back the roster let me know what you think

02-11-2008, 07:55 PM	#133
kagnew35 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nev Posts: 1,965	Am not a techie, but have wondered for awhile, just how accurate a roster set going past current yrears can stay. does this aging crash problem have any possible relationship to not having actual numbers? When the game engine runs out of actual stats, how does it react?What does it base ratings on? I have personally decided that roster sets are really only good for a 1 year sim. In the future i will only play from past years and using a DB as I have no interest in fictional players and getting ahead of history. __________________ Elder Statesman of the Board http://www.soxxcountry.com/ site with FaceGen Central and Duffys Tavern Live OOTP Chat Room

03-01-2008, 04:47 PM	#135
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,135	I see there are a whole host of stadiums in this set, but that none are assigned to minor league teams. Are these ballparks actual minor league parks, or are they fictional? If they are real, how can I figure out which park goes with what team? Also, when it comes to weather, what takes precedence, the team city, or the stadium city? In other words, which determines weather effects? Last edited by PSUColonel; 03-02-2008 at 10:25 AM.

01-09-2008, 03:45 PM	#123
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	Thanks Erich, much appreciated!

01-17-2008, 06:59 PM	#125
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	Any news for us Erich?

01-20-2008, 08:53 PM	#127
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	I haven't read through any of the posts here, but I'm linking Tech Support threads related to this Quickstart: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=158497 http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=158859 http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=159567

01-30-2008, 02:42 AM	#129
pseudofool Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 232	Does this set actually work, or are their instability problems the crop over time? If it works I'll buy 8, if not I'll just wait for 9, and continue working with Cubby's set on 2007.

02-19-2008, 06:10 PM	#134
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Another comment regarding the roster set: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=161758

03-02-2008, 11:37 PM	#136
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,135	Anyone?...How do you know which ballparks should be assigned to which minor league teams? None of them appear to be real.

04-17-2008, 10:53 PM	#137
captainemo8 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	Injuries and OOTP8 How do I reset the injuries that come with the OOTP 8 MLB rosters? I wanted to run a realistic season with the 2008 rosters with Cubbyfan's set but I am playing with the Yankees and their stats through the first 20 games are just ridiculous! Please help!

06-22-2008, 05:17 AM	#139
masterchief34 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2	Anyone have updated rosters for OOTP 8? The newest set I can find is Cubby Fan's November update.

07-04-2008, 01:25 PM	#140
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	I could not find the MLB Quick Start thread on the General Discussions board, so I'll post these here if you don't mind. First, the addition of the AZL Padres is accurate, of course, but it renders the MLB Quick Start useless for generating and saving a template for a future game. Try it; you can save it as a template but if you try to use it to start a new game, it comes up with an error and abends. The message is something about having an odd number of teams (9) in the Arizona League. (Edit: See below.) Second, it's the Greenville (SC) Drive in the South Atlantic League, and the Greeneville (TN) Astros in the Appalachian League. The difference is the "e" after "Green." It's funny how this switcheroo has been perpetuated over the years; I remember correcting this at least three times. Gamers should remember to rename the team logos to match. Edit: Here's the template error message: Edit 2: Yes, I am aware that you can still alter teams and division alignments in templates as you load them; however, when you select the AZL to reduce it to eight teams, the game puts in all fictional data, including removing the MLB affiliations. Better have an idea of who was who, where they played, and whom they reported to when that happens. Instead, the way I got around it was to reassign in the quickstart game the AZL team of the Royals, who already had 7 minor league affiliates including three rookie teams, to the Padres who had no rookie league team at all. Then I saved it as a template, etc. You can add the AZL Padres to the new game if desired; I left it the way I had it. Edit 3: Why would I want to save it as a template, you ask? (You do? ) Well, the main reason is that I want to start my Millennium League in 2001 and a quickstart does not allow you to make any changes in the start year. Otherwise, this MLB Quickstart game was a damned fine effort and I would have used it as is (except flushing out the real players and stocking up with fictional ones) if it were not for the start year. This way, I get the team and league setup (and parks.dat and downloaded logos, uniforms, etc. copied from the quickstart game) as well as the capability of starting my game in 2001. Attached Images Last edited by 1998 Yankees; 07-04-2008 at 02:50 PM.