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Old 01-31-2008, 03:46 AM   #121
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Double Dola,

Just heard LeBron's interview. Called it the "second time a fan has given a home team a loss." Funny stuff.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:18 AM   #122
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Totally disagree, from top to bottom.

1. The two main reasons Pierce isn't on the olympic team are injuries and the fact that the Celtics didn't want him to play(Ainge specifically stated such). Moreover, he is the most versatile scorer on the team and the most logical go-to guy, which is probably why he has the most points and shot attempts on the team.

2. I never said KG isn't very valuable.

3. One doesn't put up the numbers Pippen did in his prime by feeding off anybody. He didn't just score, he also put up 6-7 assists, 7-8 rebounds, shot over 50% a couple times, 2.5 steals and nearly 3 a game in a couple seasons, etc. He benefited from Jordan, but Jordan also benefited considerably from him. Scottie's performance the year after Jordan retired was pretty darn phenomenal if you think he was just a sidekick. Pippen led the Bulls in scoring, rebounding, and assists in 1993(go look and see just how many players have ever done that, it's a short list), putting up 22.0 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 5.6 apg while shooting 49% even though he attempted twice as many three-pointers as he had previously while Jordan was around, and making a higher percentage of them than he had before. Doesn't sound like a guy who can't handle the pressure or doesn't know what it's about to me.
1. You should go check back on a little history from the 04 team

2. I never said you said he wasnt valuable. I think it is silly to debate this issue as if it should be a question about how valuable he is.

3. Isnt this the very point you were arguing against Garnett? He puts up big numbers but doesnt do what needs to be done in the 4th quarter and playoffs. I cant think of many "clutch" performers that have taken themselves out of a game with it tied and 1.8 seconds left down 0-2 in a ployoff series. Mr Jordan was on hiatus at this time so perhaps Scottie was feeling the heat.

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Old 02-01-2008, 12:36 AM   #123
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1. That isn't necessary. You stated this:

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He basically was so hated on the olympic team he isnt allowed back. Not sure if he is the person I would want my trust in.
This is just plain false, as I was pointing out. Given that he was invited to be part of the group, and that Colangelo has publicly stated that him taking off last summer for rehab now excludes him, it's hard to argue that they didn't want him there.

2. Fair enough. To be more specific, your lone argument for Garnett was that this season should prove it to everybody(that his value is at the elite level I'm not willing to give). My point is that nothing he's done so far is the least bit relevant to my argument, which is that he's not the kind of player who carries a team to a championship. He can prove that right or wrong only in the playoffs, and since we aren't there yet, he could score 50 points a game and it would be irrelevant to what I've stated. Therefore it's what he's done in past years that is relevant to it.

3. First of all, you don't judge any player on what happens in one game. I haven't done that to Garnett, and I won't do it to Pippen either or anybody else. In fact I have explicity argued in this thread against such arguments. Secondly, the only reason I brought up Pippen's accomplishments was in response to what you said(that Scottie just rode Jordan's coattails). You are correct that it isn't relevant to his ability to be an elite player, and I've never included him in that class. I don't think it's necessary to be one to comment on whether or not someone else is. I think having played with Jordan and against a number of other great players is plenty for Pippen to have some credibility in recognizing whether or not Garnett has that same level of effect on a game. I also think his argument is rather strongly supported by the facts of KG's career.
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Old 02-07-2008, 01:37 AM   #124
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The Jazz improve to an NBA's best 16-2 since acquirring Kyle Korver from the 76ers. Korver also dropped 27 points and sealed the win for the Jazz tonight against divsion rival Denver Nuggets to lead the Jazz to their 10th straight win.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:44 PM   #125
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Warriors and Jazz, 36-36 after 1st quarter.

Spurs leading Bobcats 36-32 AT HALFTIME...
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Old 02-19-2008, 11:07 PM   #126
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Warriors and Jazz, 36-36 after 1st quarter.

Spurs leading Bobcats 36-32 AT HALFTIME...
Wow, I was going to come post the same exact thing.

Halftime

Utah-77

Warriors- 64
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:56 AM   #127
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The Jazz have the Warriors number.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:26 PM   #128
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Lets hear it for them Hawks lighting it up tonight! 52 points and still almost nine minutes left to play .
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:33 PM   #129
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Geez, the 24-39 Charlotte Bobcats are TWO games out of 8th place in the East and the Bucks (23-41) are just 3.5 games back...

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Old 03-16-2008, 10:55 PM   #130
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The Nuggets are leading Seattle 127-85...

...AT THE END OF THE 3RD QUARTER!!!!!
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:20 AM   #131
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168-116 was the final.

Nothing like dropping 116 and losing by 52 points.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:47 AM   #132
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Magic clinch a playoff spot! YEAH!!
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:01 PM   #133
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I'll even give them good odds on winning a round this year. Wonder how long it's been since they got to the conference semis ...

In other news, Minnesota's Marko Jaric sheds light on why the T-Wolves stink. Apparently he thinks that there are either three ends to a court, or that you only are supposed to rebound on one of them, as after their most recent loss he had this to say as they were beaten 58-38 on the galss:

"We lost the game on the rebounding end of the court."
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168-116 was the final.

Nothing like dropping 116 and losing by 52 points.
Wow! I remember when the Pistons had a streak (about 10 games) of holding opponents under 70 points. :jgross:
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:15 AM   #135
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Wow! I remember when the Pistons had a streak (about 10 games) of holding opponents under 70 points. :jgross:
I've tried to block that stretch of the NBA's history from my mind ever since it happened - when team's couldn't shoot and/or score.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:51 AM   #136
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Has anyone been watching Sonics - Nuggets? I can't but following the score on espn it looks like it's been an incredible game.

Durant hit a 3 to send it into OT and then another to send it into double OT. Currently 144-139 Sonics with 2:42 left in 2nd OT.
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Sonics win 151-147!

Warriors and Nuggets are tied for 8th with five games to play!
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