WC 2006 Official Thread

[Chisanga]

Originally Posted by bababui

Is it genetically impossible for a Frenchman to look tough????

There is a fair few

e.g

[Sdpm100]

Originally Posted by theasfl

did I cover everything in terms of tiebreakers and such?

You've covered loads of tiebreakers for sure.

FIFA have never revealed the format for the way they rank the teams from 1-16, but this is what I've gathered from analysing the actual positions.

All knockout games count 3 points for win irrespective of when it happened (normal, extra, or penalties), and 0 points for a loss (and goals scored/conceded in 120 minutes are all counted).
Then it gets complicated. In 1998, it seems they vaulted a team losing on penalties to the top of the round bracket (England's loss to Argentina on penalties moved them up to 9th from 13th I think), but in 2002 shootout losses didn't count.

And yes, each round is bracketed off so Round of 16 losers finish 9-16, quarterfinal losers 5-8, and obviously the 1st to 4th are self-explanatory.

[Dougiestyle]

Eh, very much could have been a PK for Portugal there.

[Dougiestyle]

Originally Posted by bababui

Is it genetically impossible for a Frenchman to look tough????

Many of my friends and I are all in agreement that Zidane looks like a badass mother****er.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I'd only get told off for spamming again if I did.




That's very kind of you to say. However you know at least one person may not agree with that...

ya but they're not improtant so

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Dougiestyle

Many of my friends and I are all in agreement that Zidane looks like a badass mother****er.

He is half Algerian and those folks are bad MFers

[Chisanga]

Originally Posted by Dougiestyle

Many of my friends and I are all in agreement that Zidane looks like a badass mother****er.

And Ruberry with that scar

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Chisanga

There is a fair few

e.g

LOL!....

[Dougiestyle]

Originally Posted by bababui

He is half Algerian and those folks are bad MFers

Ah, I didn't know he was half Algerian. What I did know was that everytime I see him, I get a little scared.

Where does Zidane rank in the all time greats? Top 15?

[Sdpm100]

Originally Posted by bababui

He is half Algerian and those folks are bad MFers

So you can't be bothered to reply to my reply after you complained I didn't reply then?

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Chisanga

And Ruberry with that scar

Rubery just looks mentally..errr....slow. If you taped the 1st France game go back and check him out during the national anthems.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Dougiestyle

Ah, I didn't know he was half Algerian. What I did know was that everytime I see him, I get a little scared.

Where does Zidane rank in the all time greats? Top 15?

No worries..we have each others back here

After this WC he has to be in the top 10

[Sdpm100]

Originally Posted by Dougiestyle

Where does Zidane rank in the all time greats? Top 15?

Top 25 at least IMO. As I wasn't around to see most of the all time greats play, I can't be any more specific than that, sorry.

[Chisanga]

Originally Posted by bababui

Rubery just looks mentally..errr....slow. If you taped the 1st France game go back and check him out during the national anthems.

I'd agree with that. I remember commenting to a friend about how much he looks like he has been lobotomised

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

So you can't be bothered to reply to my reply after you complained I didn't reply then?

They say payback is a B and they were right

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Chisanga

I'd agree with that. I remember commenting to a friend about how much he looks like he has been lobotomised

A better analogy still!!!

[PotatoPeeler]

If I hear this idiot ESPN commentater say, "The magic continues!" on more time when Zidane touches the ball I'm gonna fly to Germany and end the magic.

[Sdpm100]

Originally Posted by Chisanga

Ruberry

Originally Posted by bababui

Rubery

It's actually RIBery, as in 24 in a human.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by bababui

22 of the French looks brain damaged

From game 1....

[theasfl]

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

You've covered loads of tiebreakers for sure.

FIFA have never revealed the format for the way they rank the teams from 1-16, but this is what I've gathered from analysing the actual positions.

All knockout games count 3 points for win irrespective of when it happened (normal, extra, or penalties), and 0 points for a loss (and goals scored/conceded in 120 minutes are all counted).
Then it gets complicated. In 1998, it seems they vaulted a team losing on penalties to the top of the round bracket (England's loss to Argentina on penalties moved them up to 9th from 13th I think), but in 2002 shootout losses didn't count.

And yes, each round is bracketed off so Round of 16 losers finish 9-16, quarterfinal losers 5-8, and obviously the 1st to 4th are self-explanatory.

I went for more of a traditional scoring bracket with things staying the way they were the group stage when applied to the knockouts., the American in me should have done what youre suggesting now...I probably thought of it in the 98 and 02 World Cups.

Based on what you just said FIFA does:

(5) Argentina		3-1-1 10 pts (11-3) +8
(6) England		3-1-1 10 pts (6-2) +4
(7) Brazil		4-1-0 12 pts (10-2) +8
(8) Ukraine		3-2-0 9 pts (5-7) -2
(9) Switzerland		2-1-1 7 pts (4-0) +4
(10) Spain		3-1-0 9 pts (9-4) +5
(11) Netherlands 	2-1-1 7 pts (3-2) +1
(12) Ecuador		2-2-0 6 pts (5-4) +1
(13) Ghana		2-2-0 6 pts (4-6) -2 
(14) Sweden		1-1-2 5 pts (3-4) -1
(15) Mexico		1-2-1 4 pts (5-5) 0
(16) Australia		1-2-1 4 pts (5-6) -1
(17) Korea 		1-1-1 4 pts (3-4) -1
(18) Paraguay 		1-2-0 3 pts (2-2) 0
(19) Ivory Coast	1-2-0 3 pts (5-6) -1
(20) Czech Republic	1-2-0 3 pts (3-4) -1
(21) Poland		1-2-0 3 pts (2-4) -2
(22) Croatia		0-1-2 2 pts (2-3) -1
(23) Angola		0-1-2 2 pts (1-2) -1
(24) Tunisia		0-2-1 1 pt  (3-6) -3
(25) USA		0-2-1 1 pt  (2-6) -4*
(26) Iran		0-2-1 1 pt  (2-6) -4*
(27) Trinidad & Tobago	0-2-1 1 pt  (0-4) -4
(28) Japan		0-2-1 1 pt  (2-7) -5*
(29) Saudi Arabia	0-2-1 1 pt  (2-7) -5*
(30) Togo		0-3-0 0 pts (1-6) -5
(31) Costa Rica		0-3-0 0 pts (3-9) -6
(32) Serbia&Montenegro	0-3-0 0 pts (2-10) -8

(*)dead tie, lots needed

With Mexico Moved up for losing in extra time in the 2nd Round:

(5) Argentina		3-1-1 10 pts (11-3) +8
(6) England		3-1-1 10 pts (6-2) +4
(7) Brazil		4-1-0 12 pts (10-2) +8
(8) Ukraine		3-2-0 9 pts (5-7) -2
(9) Switzerland		2-1-1 7 pts (4-0) +4
(10) Mexico		1-2-1 4 pts (5-5) 0
(11) Spain		3-1-0 9 pts (9-4) +5
(12) Netherlands 	2-1-1 7 pts (3-2) +1
(13) Ecuador		2-2-0 6 pts (5-4) +1
(14) Ghana		2-2-0 6 pts (4-6) -2 
(15) Sweden		1-1-2 5 pts (3-4) -1
(16) Australia		1-2-1 4 pts (5-6) -1
(17) Korea 		1-1-1 4 pts (3-4) -1
(18) Paraguay 		1-2-0 3 pts (2-2) 0
(19) Ivory Coast	1-2-0 3 pts (5-6) -1
(20) Czech Republic	1-2-0 3 pts (3-4) -1
(21) Poland		1-2-0 3 pts (2-4) -2
(22) Croatia		0-1-2 2 pts (2-3) -1
(23) Angola		0-1-2 2 pts (1-2) -1
(24) Tunisia		0-2-1 1 pt  (3-6) -3
(25) USA		0-2-1 1 pt  (2-6) -4*
(26) Iran		0-2-1 1 pt  (2-6) -4*
(27) Trinidad & Tobago	0-2-1 1 pt  (0-4) -4
(28) Japan		0-2-1 1 pt  (2-7) -5*
(29) Saudi Arabia	0-2-1 1 pt  (2-7) -5*
(30) Togo		0-3-0 0 pts (1-6) -5
(31) Costa Rica		0-3-0 0 pts (3-9) -6
(32) Serbia&Montenegro	0-3-0 0 pts (2-10) -8

(*)dead tie, lots needed

I dont believe they're on wikipedia (if theyre not I may just add them) or FIFA's site as Ive skimmed both today, but could you link me to FIFA's official full rankings for each WC? (Im assuming they have them all on one page or a series of linked pages somewhere)


and I know youre just trying to keep me busy so I dont pass you in the post count standings