2006 Oakland A's Thread - Page 65

Green & Gold Heart · 06-08-2006, 04:26 PM

And before darkhorse beats me to it:

Will Carroll on Harden:

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Rich Harden is headed back to the DL, now with elbow problems in his pitching arm. Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports is reporting that Harden had an MRI yesterday that showed a sprained ligament, likely the UCL. There's no immediate information from the always cagey A's on the severity, but this is definitely a blow. If Harden needs Tommy John surgery, well, you know that song and dance.

johnnyshaka · 06-08-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

You obviously aren't aware of how many stolen bases we have allowed and how highly successful base stealers are.

And you obviously aren't aware that Cecil Fielder has more career stolen bases than the A's have this season.

mikev · 06-08-2006, 05:47 PM

I'm calling it right now.

Harden won't pitch again until 2008.

Well maybe not, but still. He can NOT be counted on as a member of the team until he makes a full seasons worth of starts.

JDOldSchool · 06-08-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

I'm calling it right now.

Harden won't pitch again until 2008.

Well maybe not, but still. He can NOT be counted on as a member of the team until he makes a full seasons worth of starts.

Rich Harden = Kerry Wood, but, you know, better.

Rizon · 06-08-2006, 08:28 PM

If Loaiza pitched well today, then Kendall will hit 3 HR the next game he plays, nobody will get hurt for the rest of the season, and Dan Johnson will end up hitting over .300.

mikev · 06-08-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

If Loaiza pitched well today, then Kendall will hit 3 HR the next game he plays, nobody will get hurt for the rest of the season, and Dan Johnson will end up hitting over .300.

I'm just happy his OBP is above .300

mikev · 06-09-2006, 12:41 AM

Crosby day-to-day, Harden at least 2 months. Luckily it's not something that should require surgery.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AS.TMP&type=as

mikev · 06-09-2006, 12:45 AM

Interesting...

It's frustrating," said Macha, who was impressed Harden could stay in the game after getting hurt. "It's mind boggling that he was still throwing 97 mph."

WHY WAS HE STILL PITCHING AFTER HE WAS HURT YOU IDIOT?

Green & Gold Heart · 06-09-2006, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Interesting...

It's frustrating," said Macha, who was impressed Harden could stay in the game after getting hurt. "It's mind boggling that he was still throwing 97 mph."

WHY WAS HE STILL PITCHING AFTER HE WAS HURT YOU IDIOT?

In the same article you quoted is this:

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Harden didn't mention the problem until the team arrived in Cleveland and felt some elbow pain while doing some movements in the trainer's room.

Macha didn't know. So maybe call Harden an idiot for not taking himself out right away.

mikev · 06-09-2006, 12:53 AM

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Macha didn't know. So maybe call Harden an idiot for not taking himself out right away.

Fine. They're BOTH idiots then.

I'm so sick and tired of players not reporting pain (see: Dan Meyer ALL LAST YEAR)

JDOldSchool · 06-09-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mikev

I'm so sick and tired of players not reporting pain (see: Dan Meyer ALL LAST YEAR)

The thing is, when you pitch through the pain and are effective you're more likely to ignore it. When you're hurt and sucking, you should say something.

bananapancakes · 06-09-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RotoWorld

Rich Harden reportedly has a sprained UCL in his right elbow, which is the same injury that has sidelined A.J. Burnett.
The A's are confident that Harden won't need surgery, but there's no way they no for sure. If all goes perfectly, perhaps Harden will return in six to eight weeks. Tommy John surgery would sideline him into 2007.

I am past the point where I'll ever expect big things from this guy

Rizon · 06-09-2006, 07:37 PM

Anyone have Van Poppel's number handy?

JDOldSchool · 06-09-2006, 08:13 PM

Mike Rouse is playing second today. I think it was Keisler who was sent down.

JDOldSchool · 06-09-2006, 09:21 PM

Kielty AND Perez go deep. Randy Johnson is done.

And Rouse had 1 steal at Sacramento this year. What's he doing running so much? He looks solid at the plate, too.

Rizon · 06-09-2006, 11:28 PM

Woohoo, Cheers.

mikev · 06-09-2006, 11:43 PM

6 runs off Big Unit or no, today was probably the worst lineup that I have ever seen the A's use in the last, like, 10 years.

Under no circumstances should Payton be hitting third in the lineup. Ever.

I can understand the injuries, but I don't understand Kotsay not playing (he's hit Unit well) to just have a day off the same day as DJ (who is finally hitting).

I still hate Macha, they won in spite of him.

Green & Gold Heart · 06-09-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

6 runs off Big Unit or no, today was probably the worst lineup that I have ever seen the A's use in the last, like, 10 years.

Under no circumstances should Payton be hitting third in the lineup. Ever.

I can understand the injuries, but I don't understand Kotsay not playing (he's hit Unit well) to just have a day off the same day as DJ (who is finally hitting).

I still hate Macha, they won in spite of him.

I think he's done this before against RJ - totally stack the lineup with righties. Luckily it worked today because yeah, it was pretty yucky.

mikev · 06-09-2006, 11:58 PM

Stacking the lineup is fine, but why sit the lefty who has had good success against RJ, especially when most of his success was back when RJ was dominating the NL?

Green & Gold Heart · 06-10-2006, 12:32 AM

WHY the **** is KARSAY warming up?!?!? Don't scare the **** out of me like that, ****ing MACHA!!!

06-08-2006, 05:47 PM	#1283
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	I'm calling it right now. Harden won't pitch again until 2008. Well maybe not, but still. He can NOT be counted on as a member of the team until he makes a full seasons worth of starts. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

06-08-2006, 08:28 PM	#1285
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	If Loaiza pitched well today, then Kendall will hit 3 HR the next game he plays, nobody will get hurt for the rest of the season, and Dan Johnson will end up hitting over .300. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

06-09-2006, 12:41 AM	#1287
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Crosby day-to-day, Harden at least 2 months. Luckily it's not something that should require surgery. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AS.TMP&type=as __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

06-09-2006, 12:45 AM	#1288
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Interesting... It's frustrating," said Macha, who was impressed Harden could stay in the game after getting hurt. "It's mind boggling that he was still throwing 97 mph." WHY WAS HE STILL PITCHING AFTER HE WAS HURT YOU IDIOT? __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

06-09-2006, 07:37 PM	#1293
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	Anyone have Van Poppel's number handy? __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

06-09-2006, 08:13 PM	#1294
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Mike Rouse is playing second today. I think it was Keisler who was sent down.

06-09-2006, 09:21 PM	#1295
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Kielty AND Perez go deep. Randy Johnson is done. And Rouse had 1 steal at Sacramento this year. What's he doing running so much? He looks solid at the plate, too.

06-09-2006, 11:28 PM	#1296
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	Woohoo, Cheers. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

06-09-2006, 11:43 PM	#1297
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	6 runs off Big Unit or no, today was probably the worst lineup that I have ever seen the A's use in the last, like, 10 years. Under no circumstances should Payton be hitting third in the lineup. Ever. I can understand the injuries, but I don't understand Kotsay not playing (he's hit Unit well) to just have a day off the same day as DJ (who is finally hitting). I still hate Macha, they won in spite of him. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

06-09-2006, 11:58 PM	#1299
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Stacking the lineup is fine, but why sit the lefty who has had good success against RJ, especially when most of his success was back when RJ was dominating the NL? __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

06-10-2006, 12:32 AM	#1300
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	WHY the ** is KARSAY warming up?!?!? Don't scare the out of me like that, **ing MACHA!!!