SBC (Predecessor of SRL) Champions going into 1877 season

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

For the Frogs, I was thinking of an idea for a logo similar to the Kilroy was Here look. Perhaps the frog's eyes could be over a bush, with the visible feet where the hands would be with that kind of image. Or even a fence, come to think of it. I'll see what I can do with the Frogs, then. Thank you. CD out.

Just use these images as they are... they are fine with me... simple designs show up better on the game screens in my opinion.

Fancy designs don't show up as well as simple designs at 50 x 50 pixels.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

First logo seems to not be sufficiently opaque on the body of the frog, where the white is showing above in your post. I don't know why that is the case, but it is, when I try to put it as a shoulder patch on what I have so far for the Frogs, at least on the home uniform. Will keep you posted. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

First logo seems to not be sufficiently opaque on the body of the frog, where the white is showing above in your post. I don't know why that is the case, but it is, when I try to put it as a shoulder patch on what I have so far for the Frogs, at least on the home uniform. Will keep you posted. CD out.

The image is white where you see white... it is transparent.

Actually, don't use this image... it doesn't look good on the sleeve... I just used on a jersey... it didn't show up well.

Use the other image... with the frog head on top of the water.. it shows up well.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

One more special gift for you, that I hope you like. Consider it a special blessing from a friend, EC. Hope you can use it too, of course. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

One more special gift for you, that I hope you like. Consider it a special blessing from a friend, EC. Hope you can use it too, of course. CD out.

Very nice color... but the BLAZERS will not show on the game screens.

It's needs a Black outline on the Red to show up... don't know if you can do that.

Hillsboro is fine... don't do anymore work on it.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

I just installed them in the game so you can see what they look like.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"... but yours show up better in the game for one reason... you can see all of the lettering... in knuckler's the lettering is partially cut off.

I will use your Hillsboro Blazers next year in the IPA.

Thank you for working so hard on them... you did well.

The reason knuckler's letters are cut off in the picture is because he curved or angled the letters.

You made the letters straight... therefore they were not cut off.

That's good for me to know on my future graphics work.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Use it or not, but just wanted to try to do something special for you here, with a gradient. That's all. Okay, what did you have in mind for a post on the Graphics forum to show off the items I made for you, then? Just wondering, EC. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Use it or not, but just wanted to try to do something special for you here, with a gradient. That's all. Okay, what did you have in mind for a post on the Graphics forum to show off the items I made for you, then? Just wondering, EC. CD out.

I will show it to you tomorrow... don't have time tonight.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Please don't forget to show all the uniforms and caps, if and when you show them to others here. Now you may not want new logos to go along with the new-look Hillsboro Blazers, but I think several of us might appreciate new logos to go along with the new looks for the Blazers. Including me, of course.

IF and when you request new logos to reflect the new looks for them, you may want to include the appropriate color codes and fonts used on the uniforms and caps. You may go along with my suggestions or not, as always, of course, for them, you know.

Will get back to you later as I can, and all, I'm sure, Lord willing. But I may be away from my keyboard periodically, or on other screens on my computer, of course, during the majority of the day, I think, EC. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

CD, I will keep it short and sweet... here is what I would like to post on the OOTP Mods Graphics Forum.

Thread Title: Update on Clovidequano Dovatha: CD's Graphics Skills

Post #1 would include screenshots of the Hillsboro Blazers Jerseys.
Please look these fine jerseys created by CD... two years ago Eugene Church would have not thought it possible that CD would create such graphics... he really did a fine job on the Hillsboro Blazers in my Islandian Pro Alliance Dynasty League... I will use CD's version of the Hillsboro Blazers beginning in my next season... I will use them because they are very well done... not because CD is my good friend.

Post #2 would be the following... an attempt to briefly describe how we became good friends and how CD improved his social skills and learned how to get along with the OOTP Community on the Forums.

Hello, this is Eugene Church... about two years ago Clovidequano Dovatha... better known as CD... upset many people on OOTPB Forums, including me... unknowingly and unintentionally he became a problem that requested far too many graphics requests and the Forum Community took offense... it was not a pleasant experience for any of us.
I felt sorry for CD... no one would create graphics for him...though I am not very good at creating logos, jerseys and caps, I wanted to try and help CD, especially when I found out he has Asperger's Syndrome.

Asperger's is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests.
For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction. This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd". Such failures to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings and may come across as insensitive.

CD does not mean to offend us here on the Forum, but he does... will occasionally do it again... it is unintentional when he says something that we take as inappropriate... CD just does not realize what he is saying.
That is why CD would post threads requesting 50 teams at a time... CD would hijack threads unintentionally and unknowingly with large, complicated requests and long-winded ramblings... that's just the way CD is... CD cannot give you a simple request or a simple answer... his posts and graphics requests are very wordy, complicated and so long to the point that you don't want to read them.

To help him, I advised him not to post in other people's threads on the Forums... that would get him in trouble... but it would be OK to post in his own thread... most people only read threads that interest them.
I told him to keep his posts simple and to the point... don't get wordy or long-winded... just keep it simple.

I also advised him to learn how to make his own team jerseys and caps... or to download jerseys that have already been created... that is the simplest way to get jerseys.

CD listened to my advice.
For the most part, CD hasn't had any major problems since... CD has pretty much stop posting.
CD would like to be able to make jerseys for the OOTP Community... he is a good guy that likes to help people... CD is just misunderstood too often.

Here is how our friendship has evolved... it's a long thread, but it will give you some insight into CD... and no, EC and CD don't always get along... we often disagree and debate things... but we are still friends.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...306267&page=11

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Thread title acceptable.

Post one and as many other posts as needed would ideally include screenshots of all caps and uniforms you have for Hillsboro. You can say this, in your own words, "Please look at these fine jerseys and caps created by CD ... two years ago Eugene Church would have not thought it possible that CD would create such graphics ... he really did a fine job on the Hillsboro Blazers in my Islandian Pro Alliance dynasty league ... I will use CD's version of the Hillsboro Blazers beginning in my next season."

After the post showing the last of the created caps and uniforms, if you like, you could perhaps request logos based on the new looks for the Blazers that we could all probably use later on, or not, if you so choose. You could mention the fonts used and the color codes, or not, as you so desire.

The paragraphs above "CD does not mean to offend us here on the forum ..." are acceptable. However, you should put a paragraph break between "it was not a pleasant experience for any of us." and "I felt sorry for CD."

The paragraph in which that bit appears, however, and succeeding paragraphs, should perhaps be as follows:

CD does not mean to offend us here on the Forum, but he does ... it is unintentional when he says something that we take as inappropriate ... CD often knows what he wants to say, but often has a problem with wording what he says properly, especially when he can't figure out just how to say something and when to say it at any time ... That is why CD would periodically make posts requesting many teams at any time, especially with highly detailed requests ... CD would hijack or divert threads unintentionally and unknowingly with large and complicated requests ... that's just the way that CD is ... CD can't normally give you a simple request or a simple answer ... his posts are often very wordy and so verbose to the point that you don't generally want to read them.

To help him, I advised him not to post in other people's threads on the Forums ... that would get him in trouble ... but it would be okay to post in his own threads ... most people only read threads that interest them.

I told him to keep his posts simple and to the point ... don't get wordy or long-winded .... just keep it simple.

I also advised him to learn how to make his own team jerseys and caps ... or to download jerseys that have already been created ... that is the simplest way to get jerseys and caps and logos.

CD listened to my advice.

For the most part, CD hasn't had any major problems since ... CD has pretty much stopped posting in other people's threads, especially since beginning work on a personal writing project or two of his own within the last year or so, more or less.

CD would like to be able to make uniforms and caps for the OOTP Community .... he is a good guy who likes to help people ... CD is just misunderstood too often.

Here is how our friendship has evolved ... It's a long thread, but it will give you some insight into CD ... and no, EC and CD don't always get along ... we often disagree and debate things ... but we are still friends.

Include the link shown above in your most recent post for this thread when you conclude the applicable post after you finish showing the various uniforms and/or caps I made for the Hillsboro Blazers, please, as you wish, EC. Thank you.

Other than what I edited and all here, hopefully for clarity's sake and all, what you proposed for a CD-related thread of posts here looks good, and is fairly accurate, in relation to us both, I think, EC. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

I will post this on the Graphics Forum tomorrow.

Thanks for your approval and suggestions.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Don't forget to show all uniforms and all caps currently seen for Hillsboro in this thread, when you post, please. That way, people can actually choose to use or not use whatever they want or feel they need to use for ANY Hillsboro in their leagues/dynasties, whether IPA-related or not, if they are so inclined to do so. Thank you again, EC, for deciding to use at least a few, if not all, of the items I've recently made for Hillsboro in the future, for as long as you do, et cetera. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Also, please put a paragraph break between "Asperger's is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests." and "For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction. This social awkwardness has been called 'active but odd.' Such failures to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings and may come across as insensitive."

Hope this helps make things a bit more readable here for all. Thank you. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Post this as your introductory paragraph in your first post related to the proposed thread, please, if you don't mind too much, EC:

Please look at these fine jerseys and caps created by CD ... two years ago Eugene Church would have not thought it possible that CD would create such graphics ... he really did a fine job on the Hillsboro Blazers in my Islandian Pro Alliance dynasty league ... I will use CD's version of the Hillsboro Blazers beginning in my next season ... I will use them because they are very well done... not because CD is my good friend.

Keep everything else as suggested in posts 1251 and 1253 and 1254 in this thread, if at all possible, please, but include nothing after you include the link mentioned in post 1251 of this thread, from that post, in the appropriate post for your new thread, EC. Thank you. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

EC. please edit post two so that it has the text I suggested, if you don't mind, for clarity's sake at least. You currently have the text in that post as you proposed it, not as I edited it, it seems. And please don't forget to add all the other caps and uniforms in the thread. Thank you. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Eight tries at uniforms, seven of which I have kept in this thread, and four caps for Hillsboro's Blazers. Your second post is not clear enough in terms of me and you, and not entirely accurate, either, I believe. We want to be completely honest with people here, as best as we can be, of course. So if you would make the requested changes to the second post as already agreed upon, we can be as honest as possible and as accurate as possible here with them.

Thank you for your time and all. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

EC. please edit post two so that it has the text I suggested, if you don't mind, for clarity's sake at least. You currently have the text in that post as you proposed it, not as I edited it, it seems. And please don't forget to add all the other caps and uniforms in the thread. Thank you. CD out.

No, CD, that is all the graphics I am going to post... the purpose of the thread is to show how well you do graphics when you do them in a traditional manner and style... not to show the graphics that very few people would be interested in... I just used your graphics creations to show how much you have improved.

Do you realize that most people are not interested in your own style of creation and your choice of colors?

Most people want their graphics to mirror Major League Baseball.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Fair enough, EC. Fair enough. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

No, I wouldn't have used purple and green on the Blazers items. I've not used purple on the Fairfax uniforms, in truth, although I can see how some might perceive the darker blue I've used so far as purple, at times. Like you, probably, for instance.

One of your paragraphs should read, instead of how you had it in post two of your new thread, as this, I think, in the interest of honesty and clarity:

CD does not mean to offend us here on the Forum, but he does ... it is unintentional when he says something that we take as inappropriate ... CD often knows what he wants to say, but often has a problem with wording what he says properly, especially when he can't figure out just how to say something and when to say it at any time ... That is why CD would periodically make posts requesting many teams at any time, especially with highly detailed requests ... CD would hijack or divert threads unintentionally and unknowingly with large and complicated requests ... that's just the way that CD is ... CD can't normally give you a simple request or a simple answer ... his posts are often very wordy and so verbose to the point that you don't generally want to read them.

You may also want to put spaces between each paragraph for readability's sake, I think, as well. Okay? CD out.