WC 2006 Official Thread - Page 620

Bobbuttons · 07-01-2006, 01:45 PM

Ultimately, Lampard needs to make a better effort.

canadiancreed · 07-01-2006, 01:45 PM

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i'ts only illigial if your'e not the team the refs want to win?

well looks like all those England flags will be gone come Tuesday when I go to work

redmarkYankees · 07-01-2006, 01:46 PM

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he's done the absolute basics as a lone forward, he hasn't provided much speed and he loses the ball too easily; typically while trying to turn directly into another player...god knows he can't head the ball or score to save his life either. Without Owen, you're pretty much stuck with him under the circumstances, but it would be nice to have selected another capable forward to put up there now.

Loses the ball too easily? Which game were you watching?

Bobbuttons · 07-01-2006, 01:46 PM

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Fixed

I don't need to work blue.

canadiancreed · 07-01-2006, 01:46 PM

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3-0 PKs Ukraine wins in 3.5 rounds, the Swiss are eliminated without giving up a goal.

do you think Italy's better off with Ukraine or would they had been better with Switzerland?

That's like asking if the Yankees will have a hard time with the KC ROyals or a AAA team. It won't matter

canadiancreed · 07-01-2006, 01:48 PM

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I don't need to work blue.

redmarkYankees · 07-01-2006, 01:48 PM

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How has he scored his goals for the most part? Set pieces? Re-directing passes in the box? Mental telepathy?

He's not a big goalscorer, that's not what he's there for. He's a good finisher on the ground, doesn't get enough power on his headers. Hell, I'm a Liverpool fan who wouldn't have Crouch in the starting Liverpool XI, but if you're going to criticise him do so for the right reasons.

canadiancreed · 07-01-2006, 01:48 PM

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You dont choose football; football chooses you. You arent allowed to quit.

FIFA = the mob?!

rudel.dietrich · 07-01-2006, 01:49 PM

Lucky enough to get this far. Maybe in four years they will have a coach and players with enough balls to actualy try and put together a decent attack.

Germany and Brazil final is looking likley at this point which would make a good final assuming it does not go to PK.

redmarkYankees · 07-01-2006, 01:50 PM

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Lucky enough to get this far. Maybe in four years they will have a coach and players with enough balls to actualy try and put together a decent attack.

Germany and Brazil final is looking likley at this point which would make a good final assuming it does not go to PK.

Agreed on the coach, but if you think the England players don't have balls you know zilch.

canadiancreed · 07-01-2006, 01:52 PM

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Where the hell is CC when you really need a clever reply

Since when are mine clever?

rudel.dietrich · 07-01-2006, 01:52 PM

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Agreed on the coach, but if you think the England players don't have balls you know zilch.

They have courage, not doubting that. But they have to be questioning the logic of playing timid football and sitting on leads all match long.

England has the skill to produce very good teams, but they looked miserable this entire cup due to their players never seeming to want to organize an attack.

I have the feeling they will be the most changed team by the time Euro 2008 rolls around

ukhotstove · 07-01-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Lucky enough to get this far. Maybe in four years they will have a coach and players with enough balls to actualy try and put together a decent attack.

Germany and Brazil final is looking likley at this point which would make a good final assuming it does not go to PK.

imo England didn't deserve to go forward with the way they have played in the tournament but ALL teams need luck.

theasfl · 07-01-2006, 01:54 PM

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Loses the ball too easily? Which game were you watching?

the one you just lost

ukhotstove · 07-01-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

They have courage, not doubting that. But they have to be questioning the logic of playing timid football and sitting on leads all match long.

England has the skill to produce very good teams, but they looked miserable this entire cup due to their players never seeming to want to organize an attack

Isn't this the way Germany have always played until Klinsmann took over ?

theasfl · 07-01-2006, 01:55 PM

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He's not a big goalscorer, that's not what he's there for. He's a good finisher on the ground, doesn't get enough power on his headers. Hell, I'm a Liverpool fan who wouldn't have Crouch in the starting Liverpool XI, but if you're going to criticise him do so for the right reasons.

he's asking a **** question, theres no reason to lash out at him.

rudel.dietrich · 07-01-2006, 01:55 PM

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imo England didn't deserve to go forward with the way they have played in the tournament but ALL teams need luck.

England had plenty of it to get as far as they did. They looked awful all tournement long. I can not think of a single game (and I watched them all for the full 90) that they looked like a world class team which they are.

The tactics and mentality were all wrong coming in the entire system needs to be reworked.

theasfl · 07-01-2006, 01:56 PM

why the hell is **** (starts with a d) suddenly censored

ukhotstove · 07-01-2006, 01:57 PM

No player lost us the game, no player got us knocked out it was Sven.

redmarkYankees · 07-01-2006, 01:57 PM

Anyway...

Germany are the best team (IMHO) remaining in the tournament, but I think they need to not underestimate the Italians, who are doing an old Italian job of sneaking through the tournament unnoticed. Brazil have a few top class players, but France could give them a shock tonight. Portugal... who knows. They'll get Deco back. Would hate to see Portugal do well, as they're the biggest divers and playactors in the tournament.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Lucky enough to get this far. Maybe in four years they will have a coach and players with enough balls to actualy try and put together a decent attack. Germany and Brazil final is looking likley at this point which would make a good final assuming it does not go to PK.