Complete Universe Facegen Pack

[LansdowneSt]

Outfielder John Kelly made the bigs in 1907 for 53 games with a .188/.245/.213 slash line. Not enough. He'd continue playing ball until his mid-30s and by age 40, we find him married and a deputy sheriff in Baltimore.

Same facegen just cleaned up and colorized.

[actionjackson]

Just leaving a marker, so I know how far along I am. These are amazing.

[LansdowneSt]

Ray Demmitt played seven seasons in the majors during the dead ball era. He played all three outfield positions, with most of his work in right field. As a hitter, he was occasionally among the league leaders in doubles, triples and home runs. Most of his major league career was spent with the St. Louis Browns (1910 and 1917-19). Despite being wanted by the St. Louis Browns as well as Columbus (managed by Joe Tinker), Ray Demmitt retired to do farm work in 1920 though he did sign up to play in an industrial league in Illinois.

"Ray Demmitt and infielder Gerber, often tried and and never retained for any length of time, seem to have come into the promised land, and have done all that was asked of them in brilliant fashion." - Baseball Magazine, August 1918

He had a facegen in the CU pack but under the old naming convention. That's the one on the left (or top depending on how wide your screen is). Redid the facegen.

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Ray Demmitt played seven seasons in the majors during the dead ball era. He played all three outfield positions, with most of his work in right field. As a hitter, he was occasionally among the league leaders in doubles, triples and home runs. Most of his major league career was spent with the St. Louis Browns (1910 and 1917-19). Despite being wanted by the St. Louis Browns as well as Columbus (managed by Joe Tinker), Ray Demmitt retired to do farm work in 1920 though he did sign up to play in an industrial league in Illinois.

"Ray Demmitt and infielder Gerber, often tried and and never retained for any length of time, seem to have come into the promised land, and have done all that was asked of them in brilliant fashion." - Baseball Magazine, August 1918

He had a facegen in the CU pack but under the old naming convention. That's the one on the left (or top depending on how wide your screen is). Redid the facegen.

1909 RoY in the Bucs save, playing for Brooky.

[LansdowneSt]

Bob Messenger, Bates College Class of 1908, is an enigma. Like a meteor, he blazed a trail across the school’s Garcelon Field, then vanished in a flash. Five years later, reunited with classmate Harry Lord, he reappeared with the Chicago White Sox. But what a life he lived — before, between and after. Messenger played 15 years of professional baseball with 14 teams in 11 states and three countries. A folk hero and living legend, he was lionized across swaths of America — dubbed the “human flash of speed” and “fastest pair of legs this side of the Mason-Dixon line.” Yet even where he was a legend — he remained an enigma. The “Can’t Miss” Kid who missed — three times. After retiring from baseball, he returned to Maine under a different name to solve sensational murders that were splashed across national headlines.

Today Bob Messenger is all but forgotten, rated the briefest of mentions in Wikipedia. Even his obituaries didn’t do him justice. One said he graduated from Bates in 1907; another he left Bates for Toronto in the minor leagues; a third he played infield in the majors. All are wrong. He had two names — and adventures too many to regale. This is Charles Walter “Bob” Messenger’s American journey...

- SABR (and that's a great intro - tip o' the cap to SABR author Bob Muldoon)

I found a facegen with the old code and that's the one on the left, but as nice as it is I didn't think it looked like the enigmatic, square-jawed, crime-busting ballplayer that I'd read about... so I did him over.

[actionjackson]

One more marker.

[SlimKibbles]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

The real question is, where did he go to high school? And was he a West Sider or and East Sider?

(Those from Cincinnati will get the joke. Those who aren't, well...carry on)

I'm guessing he was from the West Side, btw. A lot of the Germans settled in the West Side. I remember playing ball against kids whose last names were so long they stretched from the left armpit to the right armpit on the backs of their jerseys

Ah the standard Cincinnati-area question when meeting another from the area for the first time.

I grew up in NKY. So, BigRed75, where'd you go to high school?

[luckymann]

OK, so a few AtHoLs to keep it fresh.

Ed Crane 1884-93
Doug Clarey 1976
Doc Oberlander 1888
Eric Wedge 1991-94
Guillermo Garcia 1998-99
Lee Fohl 1902-03
Arnie Moser 1937
Dutch Sterrett 1912-13
Lefty Webb 1910
Mox McQuery 1884-91
Benny McCoy 1938-41
Billy Geer 1874-85
Grant Bowler 1931-32
Terry Lyons 1929
Wilson Collins 1913-14
Dad Clark 1902

Thanks bud

G

[LansdowneSt]

After the lefty pitched three games for the 1888 Cleveland Blues, Syracuse-educated Doc Oberlander found his way out west as a federally appointed subagent and physician with the Crow (Apsáalooke) tribe in southeast Montana, and the superintendent of Pryor Creek Boarding School.

Redid the facegen.

[LansdowneSt]

Guillermo García is a former Dominican catcher who played ifor two seasons for the Cincinnati Reds and the Florida Marlins. He has also played in the Mexican League for the Tigres de Quintana Roo where he was the Most Valuable Player. I had to go to "second.wiki" for just that basic bio info on Guillermo. The site lists his position as "Receptor" rather than Catcher which struck me funny. Thank you, Google Translator...

luckymann, this facegen - being from 1998 - looks really good so I assume it was one of the recent additions that FancySkunk did. It had a very minor green tint from the source file that I nudged a slider for but is 99.999% his "as-is" from the Aug 26 CU Facepack update. Put in a KCR uniform to align with the picture though he never took the field for KC.

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Guillermo García is a former Dominican catcher who played ifor two seasons for the Cincinnati Reds and the Florida Marlins. He has also played in the Mexican League for the Tigres de Quintana Roo where he was the Most Valuable Player. I had to go to "second.wiki" for just that basic bio info on Guillermo. The site lists his position as "Receptor" rather than Catcher which struck me funny. Thank you, Google Translator...

luckymann, this facegen - being from 1998 - looks really good so I assume it was one of the recent additions that FancySkunk did. It had a very minor green tint from the source file that I nudged a slider for but is 99.999% his "as-is" from the Aug 26 CU Facepack update. Put in a KCR uniform to align with the picture though he never took the field for KC.

Yeah, and when I hit auto-reload it came up. Gonna run a full update on this save now so this doesn't happen. Thx bud.

[The Game]

I noticed this guy in a RD league.

[LansdowneSt]

Ted Menze played one game in left field for the St. Louis Cardinals in 1918 at age 20. He also pinch ran in another contest, although that game was left out of his playing record for decades. He went on to a long minor league career as an outfielder, third baseman (and pitcher in 1920) for teams in the Midwest and South. - bRef Bullpen wiki

In 1929 while playing for the Fort Wayne Chiefs, he also wore rubber boots in a game. Not to spoil the answer to a 1972 back-of-a-Topps-Card cartoon trivia question... but there I go doing so... http://nightowlcards.blogspot.com/20...ball-card.html

Same facegen but recolored and some smoothing to reduce the sunshine on the right-side of the face. Also tried to make the chin a touch more prominent. Best I could with the info available. The CU Facegen pack had the wrong code for the before pic, using a -ted suffix instead of a -the suffix.

[BigRed75]

Okay Landsdowne - I have a request. This is a personal favorite of mine because of the story behind it. He became a cause celebre in the early days of SABR amongst the one-game crowd. Not surprisingly, there isn't a facegen of him (at least that I could see). It will take all your amazing powers to make a good one given the picture(s) of him that's on the internet but I have faith in you, bud.

His name is Claude Gouzzie and he played one game as a fill-in second baseman for the St. Louis Browns in 1903 against the Cleveland Naps.

It's personal because, despite my screen name, my family's roots are actually in SW Pennsylvania and Claude grew up in the town across the river from my family. I like to think that my great-grandfather saw him play shortstop in many no-doubt heated contests between Charleroi and Monessen.

There's plenty more biographical information on Claude for a good write-up. Just not a Facegen.

Thanks bud, and good luck!

[LansdowneSt]

How did a 30-year-old man from France wind up playing in one game for the St. Louis Browns in 1903? That is the story of Claude Gouzzie (pronounced Goo-ZAY), the first person born in France to play in the major leagues. It is also a story that may never have been told, were it not for a chance encounter between two baseball historians at the organizational meeting for the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) in 1971. That is a story in its own right.

To fill Jesse Burkett's place on the roster while he tended to his ill wife, Claude Gouzzie was brought in from Niles, Ohio, where he was playing for an independent minor league club. An on-field injury pressed him into service and Gouzzie took over at second. Gouzzie got one at-bat (he made an out facing Earl Moore), fielded one chance without an error, and otherwise had an unremarkable appearance in a 7-0 Browns loss. A few days later Burkett was back with the Browns. Gouzzie went back to the minors, his improbable major league career over.

He was a mystery man for years due to a misspelling of his last name in many of the boxscores but a chance meeting of two SABR researchers and one keying into the lone Cleveland boxscore that got he name right. The record was corrected in an article in the SABR Baseball Research Journal, Volume 1, published in 1972. It was entitled “The Man with the Peculiar Name” — as the Plain Dealer game story referred to Gouzzie. - SABR

Crafted the facegen as best I could from the lone photo. I think Monessen could take'em. As a glove first man, he rates as a middling 2B in OOTP - I hope his rep as a grinder is true if he's to have a chance versus those east of the Monongahela.

Saved as the MLB Historic ID as he had no bRef or in-game Minors code

[luckymann]

Top stuff LSt.

[LansdowneSt]

If the rest of your list is confirmed good-to-go, luckymann, I'll get working on it tomorrow. Going to drop some random early 80s Blue jays in the other thread and that might be it for me this evening. Just shoot me an email or post if the rest of the AtHoL'ers still need new mugs after the refresh/update of your pack

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

If the rest of your list is confirmed good-to-go, luckymann, I'll get working on it tomorrow. Going to drop some random early 80s Blue jays in the other thread and that might be it for me this evening. Just shoot me an email or post if the rest of the AtHoL'ers still need new mugs after the refresh/update of your pack

Yep, here's the list of outstandings with three from the Buffalo Blues added, that should tide us over until the next Bucs lot comes through.

Thx bud.

G

Ed Crane 1884-93
Doug Clarey 1976
Eric Wedge 1991-94
Lee Fohl 1902-03
Arnie Moser 1937
Dutch Sterrett 1912-13
Lefty Webb 1910
Mox McQuery 1884-91
Billy Geer 1874-85
Grant Bowler 1931-32
Terry Lyons 1929
Wilson Collins 1913-14
Dad Clarke 1902
Don Rose 1971-74
Tun Berger 1890-92
Dave Cochrane 1986-92

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

“The Man with the Peculiar Name” — as the Plain Dealer game story referred to Gouzzie. - SABR

Crafted the facegen as best I could from the lone photo. I think Monessen could take'em. As a glove first man, he rates as a middling 2B in OOTP - I hope his rep as a grinder is true if he's to have a chance versus those east of the Monongahela.

Saved as the MLB Historic ID as he had no bRef or in-game Minors code

Really fantastic work Landsdowne - you've done one of my favorite one-game wonders justice with this facegen. I reckon ol' Claude could take Moonlight Graham any day - even if ol' Archie did look like Burt Lancaster.

Incidentally, for those of you who were wondering, due to a typographical error in the AP wire report of the game, Claude's name was misspelled as "Gonzzie" - a error that was picked up by most newspapers, including the St. Louis ones. Only the Cleveland paper, who presumably actually had a person at the game, spelled it correctly. As a result, for many years our man was listed as "Claude Gonzzie" in the Macmillan Encyclopedia before the record was straightened.

Also, presumably because of the sentence in the same AP report calling him a "second baseman from Niles, Ohio", Claude's birthplace was also listed in Big Mac and elsewhere as being from Niles, even though that was just where he was living and playing semi-pro ball at the time. It wasn't for more than seven decades, when SABR folks started digging into his past and actually made contact with his brother, who was 84 at the time, that they realised Claude was born in France. This, of course, made him the first French-born major leaguer, beating Bruce Bochy and others by a long while.

Sadly, a little more than three years after his one game for the Browns, Claude contracted tuberculosis. He moved to Denver, hoping the mountain air would help things. It did for a while, but by 1907, he had passed away. Still, he lived in Denver long enough to be entered in the city directory for that year. The occupation he listed? Baseball player.

We should all be so lucky

[luckymann]

Nice, BigRed - thanks for the share!