SBC (Predecessor of SRL) Champions going into 1877 season

[Eugene Church]

Your version of the Fairfax Frogs is fine technically.
I would use your graphics work from a technical point, if you used the colors I requested.

However, your choice of colors is not what I prefer... Blue-Green and Green were my preferred colors... you added in Tan and Purple... I don't think I have ever seen a jersey or logo using those 4 or 5 colors together... and I've seen a whole lot of logos and jerseys in my lifetime... thousands of them... and especially here on the OOTP Graphics Forum.

Your style of jersey is not my preference... I don't usually use jerseys with side panels.

Sorry, I would not use your Fairfax Frogs jerseys... just not my taste... not my style of jersey design.

[Eugene Church]

Yes, txranger would do a fine job on the Texas Border Patrol... he does very good graphics... one of the best.
No, I don't think txranger or any of the the other graphics designers will do logos for you... your jersey colors and designs are not anything they would create.

You have unique tastes in colors and logo designs.
They do not interest the graphic designers.

You are my good friend, CD... but the honest truth is you would be wasting your time posting requests on the Graphics Forum... I wish that wasn't the case, but it is... I wish it was possible for your requests to be done so you could have good graphics... but I don't think it is very likely to happen.

The only graphics done for you were by me... I did 24 teams with logos, jerseys and caps for you... it took several weeks to do them... and they were not what you wanted, which is fine... I also want graphics done the way I want them... if they are not done the way I want them, I just don't use them.... so I don't do any graphics for you anymore.

I also posted your graphic requests on the Graphics Forum using my name EC to see if that might help you get your work done... a few people did them initially, but they soon stopped when you wanted complicated revisions on what they did... many graphic guys do not do revisions, especially complicated ones.

You need to do your own logos, jerseys and caps... at least you would get the colors and styles you prefer.

As I have told you numerous times before, the best way to get good graphics for your leagues is to download teams that have already been created... and there are many, many available on txranger's, low's and Lawn Loaf's threads.

Create your leagues using their teams and you will have very good graphics.

[Eugene Church]

Sorry, CD... I don't like being so negative, but I have to be honest with you.

None of your team jerseys interest me... the color combinations are not what most people want on their graphics
.
I like traditional colors.

The team nicknames are not the usual nicknames... I like traditional nicknames.

[Eugene Church]

CD, I can do you a logo for the New Orleans Bayous, but you wouldn't use it... my taste is much different from yours.

I would be wasting my time... that's the honest truth.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I'm not done working with the Fairfax set, as I said before. I'll probably play around with the colors more before I come up with a final look that might be satisfactory for use by anyone, at least. And the fonts, et cetera. I'll keep you posted, Eugene. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I didn't say I didn't like the ones you made, I believe, EC. And I have several teams using them in the dynasty or dynasties related to this thread, or will use them, once the teams are created, if they haven't already been used, or aren't currently in use, when the proper time comes.

The main colors I currently have listed for the Fairfax Frogs for my attempts at making items are Medium Blue (3f1bcc [63,27,204]), Lincoln Green (216020 [33, 96, 32]), Light Street Blue (aac8e6 [170, 200, 230]). and Desert Sand (e6c8aa [230, 200, 170]), I had to have at least one or two lighter colors to be able to separate the darker blue from the dark green on the uniforms, you see, and for legibility reasons, et cetera. But I'm still not done working on the prospective set for the Frogs. I've got a couple of ideas for the Blazers, but not sure yet how to pull them off well, with the necessary colors and all, based on the uniform picture you posted for the Blazers.

My Galactic Baseball Alliance's first season was in 1946, because I wanted to start a post-WWII dynasty very soon after the end of the war, for once. It is now 1947, in that particular dynasty, so I would most definitely want certain logo-related looks reminiscent of the period between roughly 1940 and probably 1960, at least, at the current time, quite obviously, where possible and all.

I don't know how soon I would potentially request logos only for certain teams and all here, but it certainly won't be before I finish the current chapter, chapter ten, of my latest story, for sure, in any case. I think I'll need at least another five to ten pages, if not at least fifteen, written for its first draft before that happens, however. I'm going to try to finish it by Friday, but I'm not quite sure if I'll be able to do that just yet.

I'm still hoping to have chapters ten through twelve written by the end of October, but we'll have to see how things go with that story and everything else, of course. I've still got at least another fifteen chapters in total to write after finishing chapter ten, according to my current planned schedule for it. I don't expect to finish the first draft of the entire story until sometime around Thanksgiving 2021, Lord willing, though, at the present time.

Just a few things I think you might want to be aware of here. It's proving to be a rather challenging story to write in places, for sure, and all. But I still think it definitely has at least some potential to be really good when done, if done right, by the time its last draft is finished.

Will write more later, Lord willing, of course, both here and for it, I'm sure. Talk to you soon, I hope. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Here's what I have for Hillsboro's Blazers so far. They may still need work, of course, but in any case, here's what I have for them so far, EC. Talk more with you later, if and when I can, I'm sure, Lord willing. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Here's what I have for Hillsboro's Blazers so far. They may still need work, of course, but in any case, here's what I have for them so far, EC. Talk more with you later, if and when I can, I'm sure, Lord willing. CD out.

Excellent work, CD.

The font is outstanding and really captures the Blazer nickname, which means "a fast runner or speedster".

[Eugene Church]

CD, you really do good work when you use good color combinations.

I will use these jerseys if you make these changes:

On YELLOW JERSEY (BLAZERS):
Make the Collar BLACK.

On BLACK JERSEY (HILLSBORO):
Make the Sleeves RED... make the COLLAR Red... and make the V-Neck a THICK YELLOW.

[Eugene Church]

With your permission, I would like to show these HILLSBORO jerseys on the Graphics Forum.

You could do jersey and cap requests for people if you would use their colors choices... they are that good.

I am very impressed.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Not done yet, EC. I don't have a V-neck on them, although I was considering using them on at least one uniform. I was thinking of trying to put some CD-style touches on the uniforms somewhere, like perhaps on the side panels, if possible, for instance. I was already considering changing the collar on the road/away jersey to red, but haven't done it yet. Still playing around here, at least a little, to be honest, with things. If I change that collar's color to red, however, the yellow sleeves will stay. I will consider making the home collar the dark color you'd like, however.

The colors I'm currently using for the Hillsboro Blazers set are Mikado Yellow, (ffc800 [255, 200, 0]), Red Pigment (ea2b1f [234, 43, 31]), and Dark Sienna (280004 [40, 0, 4]). Don't think I'll change them, but I didn't want to go with a totally black color here for the Blazers. I'd like to put flames or something else in appropriate colors along the bottom or sides of the jerseys, but I don't draw many things well. And I'll possibly need a layer with either flames along the bottom and/or the sides, or largely-sublimated flames, to finish the jerseys well enough to suit me here enough.

Might keep the font used here, however, on these two uniforms, at least. And the colors are likely to stay as well. Think you can ask others if they might make layers with animal-style textures or nature-related textures? Like birds' plumage, lizards' skins, or flames, for instance, to name a few, perhaps? Just wondering, that's all.

Will keep you posted here, as possible. If I could use some frog-related or frog-like textures for layers with uniforms and caps, I might be able to improve what I have now for the Fairfax Frogs, of course, I think. I haven't been able to find anything I can use like that, however, unfortunately. So my work on Fairfax's set is not yet done, it seems.

Hope you're well, and all. Talk again with you soon, I hope, Lord willing, EC. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Not done yet, EC. I don't have a V-neck on them, although I was considering using them on at least one uniform. I was thinking of trying to put some CD-style touches on the uniforms somewhere, like perhaps on the side panels, if possible, for instance. I was already considering changing the collar on the road/away jersey to red, but haven't done it yet. Still playing around here, at least a little, to be honest, with things. If I change that collar's color to red, however, the yellow sleeves will stay. I will consider making the home collar the dark color you'd like, however.

The colors I'm currently using for the Hillsboro Blazers set are Mikado Yellow, (ffc800 [255, 200, 0]), Red Pigment (ea2b1f [234, 43, 31]), and Dark Sienna (280004 [40, 0, 4]). Don't think I'll change them, but I didn't want to go with a totally black color here for the Blazers. I'd like to put flames or something else in appropriate colors along the bottom or sides of the jerseys, but I don't draw many things well. And I'll possibly need a layer with either flames along the bottom and/or the sides, or largely-sublimated flames, to finish the jerseys well enough to suit me here enough.

Might keep the font used here, however, on these two uniforms, at least. And the colors are likely to stay as well. Think you can ask others if they might make layers with animal-style textures or nature-related textures? Like birds' plumage, lizards' skins, or flames, for instance, to name a few, perhaps? Just wondering, that's all.

Will keep you posted here, as possible. If I could use some frog-related or frog-like textures for layers with uniforms and caps, I might be able to improve what I have now for the Fairfax Frogs, of course, I think. I haven't been able to find anything I can use like that, however, unfortunately. So my work on Fairfax's set is not yet done, it seems.

Hope you're well, and all. Talk again with you soon, I hope, Lord willing, EC. CD out.

OK, CD... make the changes I requested and I will use them... I will not use them if you create them the way you want them to be... my taste is far different from yours.

I really like what you have done... please make the changes I requested... then, you can do what you want to do with the Hillsboro jerseys.

[Eugene Church]

CD, only you are interested in animal-style and nature-style textures.
No one else cares about that... most people want just basic baseball jerseys and caps made in traditional ways with traditional colors.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Changes made, but I still think they'd look even better with certain touches added just a little bit here, to be honest, that's all, EC. Hope you like the entire set so far, however. If these are satisfactory enough, at least for now, I'll see if I can't get some caps done for them as well soon. It may be a while before I can, of course.

You have given some leeway to the other people helping you with this project of rebranding/updating your teams here, as well, and I'm hopefully not asking for too much here, even considering my past history here. But I still would like to try and make something real special for you with at least one team that others might not normally try and all, you see.

Yes, I often do certain things a good deal differently than MANY others do, but you know each of us is different in God's Universe, I'm quite certain. Allow me just a little leeway, please, and I might just be able to do something real special for you, set-wise, with at least one team here, straight from my heart, EC. Even though I may not actually be able to make the necessary logos here, of course, as of yet. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

CD, the new jerseys with the changes you made are excellent... txranger and knuckler would be proud of them, I think.... thank you very much for making the changes I requested... they are beautiful jerseys... I will be proud to use them in the Islandian Pro Alliance.

I really like the third and fourth jerseys that you altered.

Would you do several additional changes?... move the team names and the swooshes up a little bit so that they are centered in the button gap on both jerseys... if you leave them where they are, the team names on the jerseys will not fully show up in player photos... they will be cut off a little bit... also you don't want to put team names and swooshes on top of buttons... they should be in the gaps.

Also please make the V-Neck on the Yellow Blazers Jersey RED... the yellow-black colors on the V-Neck is not as effective in my opinion... nothing wrong with it, it's just not my preference.

Make these changes and you will have made something "real special" for me.

If you create other teams in the IPA like you did Hillsboro, I will use them all... you really did them well.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Changes made, but I still think they'd look even better with certain touches added just a little bit here, to be honest, that's all, EC. Hope you like the entire set so far, however. If these are satisfactory enough, at least for now, I'll see if I can't get some caps done for them as well soon. It may be a while before I can, of course.

You have given some leeway to the other people helping you with this project of rebranding/updating your teams here, as well, and I'm hopefully not asking for too much here, even considering my past history here. But I still would like to try and make something real special for you with at least one team that others might not normally try and all, you see.

Yes, I often do certain things a good deal differently than MANY others do, but you know each of us is different in God's Universe, I'm quite certain. Allow me just a little leeway, please, and I might just be able to do something real special for you, set-wise, with at least one team here, straight from my heart, EC. Even though I may not actually be able to make the necessary logos here, of course, as of yet. CD out.

CD, I can see by the Hillsboro Blazers that you did, you have the ability to make excellent jerseys... yes, I give the graphics gurus a lot of leeway to create my requests... HOWEVER, I don't always use what they produce for one reason or another... mainly because I like, what I like... that's plain and simple... yes, EC is hard to please... very hard to please.

If they do them the way I request them, then I use them... if not, then I don't use them.

They are probably all nice people, but not my friend like you are... I can ask you to do revisions because you are my real good friend... but I don't ask the graphics gurus to make revisions unless they offer to make revisions... some do, some don't.

Lucky for me on the IPA rebranding project, golem64 and rocknfire7 offered to make revisions... so in the future, I will know I can get them to make changes and not offend them... all graphics guys are not like them.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I'll see what I can do, EC. In return, if you don't mind, would you please consider privately asking others if they have any textures sort of like what I mentioned, for example, but not necessarily limited to them, so that I, and/or others who may be similarly minded at times, can hopefully improve the quality of my or their work, without necessarily mentioning me by name? I'd really like to finish working on a team called the Whitehall Monitors, for example, but I don't have a layer or a texture that might work well for such a team, at the current time.

I won't likely be able to do logos for the Blazers, but I believe the font that I used for them is called Faster One, or Faster One Font, if i remember correctly. If you like, I'll show you what I have so far for the Whitehall Monitors, but they'll still need quite a bit of work on the related team set before I can call that team's look done as much as possible from my end of things. As far as logos for such a team, I was thinking a batting lizard or a lizard standing watch or something, I think, might work well for them at present.

Will probably not be able to finish their looks soon, however, for various reasons, of course. But we'll have to see what the Lord has in store for us all in the future, obviously, EC. And eventually all this trouble that's happening will come to an end, once He comes and makes everything right, no matter what it is, and all, for sure. What a day that will be, when He is on His throne and ruling the world once and for all. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

When I get the caps done, then I'll let you know if it'll be all right to show them to others who may not be watching this thread here, okay? But until then, I'll keep trying to see what I can come up with for them. Maybe if I have those other layers or textures, I might even be able to come up with some halfway-decent alternates, at least, for this and/or other teams, come to think of it, EC.

Talk more later, if and when I can, of course, Lord willing. But I have something important to attend to tonight, and it directly relates to the Master of the Universe and spending time with Him, for sure. So it's probably going to be at least a little while longer before I can finish work sufficiently well on the Blazers set's looks, at least from the caps and jerseys' standpoints, I think. Will keep you posted, however, EC. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

I'll see what I can do, EC. In return, if you don't mind, would you please consider privately asking others if they have any textures sort of like what I mentioned, for example, but not necessarily limited to them, so that I, and/or others who may be similarly minded at times, can hopefully improve the quality of my or their work, without necessarily mentioning me by name? I'd really like to finish working on a team called the Whitehall Monitors, for example, but I don't have a layer or a texture that might work well for such a team, at the current time.

I won't likely be able to do logos for the Blazers, but I believe the font that I used for them is called Faster One, or Faster One Font, if i remember correctly. If you like, I'll show you what I have so far for the Whitehall Monitors, but they'll still need quite a bit of work on the related team set before I can call that team's look done as much as possible from my end of things. As far as logos for such a team, I was thinking a batting lizard or a lizard standing watch or something, I think, might work well for them at present.

Will probably not be able to finish their looks soon, however, for various reasons, of course. But we'll have to see what the Lord has in store for us all in the future, obviously, EC. And eventually all this trouble that's happening will come to an end, once He comes and makes everything right, no matter what it is, and all, for sure. What a day that will be, when He is on His throne and ruling the world once and for all. CD out.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by textures and layers... in very simple terms what are they and how do you use them?

Are they included in justafan's logo, jersey and cap softwares?

I use his softwares, but have never seen any textures or layers.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

With extra layers, you can add layers into the mix for the uniforms, at least. Third bit down on the right side under the area shown as Clear All. You have Patch (Left), Patch (Right), Extra Layer(s), Profile Picture, Open Template, Save Template, Save Jersey, and Exit all down the right side under Clear All and everything on its line. The first four of those areas have areas that can be opened or closed as one desires.

Say you have a flannel texture that isn't in the standard list of textures listed in the applicable central area, for example. You would use the extra layers area to import the texture or textures/layer or layers in question, I believe. Then when you go to Options in the upper left, you can arrange things in any order you so desire, so that you hopefully get the look you want better, as others have already laid out here at least once or twice in the forums, if memory serves, by using a cooking analogy like they did some time ago.

If you have any other questions that I may be able to help you with, please don't be afraid to ask. Thank you, EC. CD out.