OOTP 6 / ITP development update - Page 6

phenom · 09-20-2004, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry

I'm tired LOL... if we were all in the same area, would you all be for a night out, sharing rounds? I'll buy the first and the last in addition to my turn - how's that for a deal?

I'm game, but I only have time for two drinks.

Dan Theman · 09-20-2004, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by phenom

I'm game, but I only have time for two drinks.

I'm only about 20 miles away - it would be worth it if I didn't have my kid tucked in, lol. Ah, well; catch me tomorrow, perhaps!

Le Grande Orange · 09-20-2004, 09:12 PM

Given what I'm seeing in this thread, I just have to wonder how hard Mal and Mats are on Microsoft given its track record...

matskralc · 09-20-2004, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Given what I'm seeing in this thread, I just have to wonder how hard Mal and Mats are on Microsoft given its track record...

See the difference is that I have yet to actually have to personally pay for any Microsoft products. They've always been provided to me by my dad or the school's tech center.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-20-2004, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by matskralc

See the difference is that I have yet to actually have to personally pay for any Microsoft products. They've always been provided to me by my dad or the school's tech center.

So microsofts bugs are ok?

holyroller · 09-20-2004, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

So microsofts bugs are ok?

No, he has no right to complain since he didn't pay for them.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-20-2004, 09:23 PM

Ok, just hoping that all the folks who are concerned about the issues w/ OOTP are as concerned and as involved w/ holding the other software developers as accountable as you are in this case.

Mike D · 09-20-2004, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

So microsofts bugs are ok?

Well, Steve, I guess since he didn't pay for them, he is getting his money's worth.

Something I'm wondering about is what someone said in another thread. If people are so unhappy, they should ask for their money back, especially since we were all promised to have H2H in the game, and it has yet to be delivered. I wonder if OOTP would even consider it.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-20-2004, 09:26 PM

I got no clue, doubtful unless you have purchased the game w/i the last 7 days(I think it is).

Malleus Dei · 09-20-2004, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

Ok, just hoping that all the folks who are concerned about the issues w/ OOTP are as concerned and as involved w/ holding the other software developers as accountable as you are in this case.

I'm so angry at Microsoft that I've gone Linux on all but my game machine. When OOTP supports Linux I'll convert that box over as well.

Linux, Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird...who needs Microsoft anyway?

Steve Kuffrey · 09-20-2004, 09:27 PM

Fine, just asking for consistency.

Mike D · 09-20-2004, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

I got no clue, doubtful unless you have purchased the game w/i the last 7 days(I think it is).

Well, if that's the case, then I think anyone who says we shouldn't be bitching might as well pass over this thread since we've paid to bitch. We can't demand our money back for unfulfilled promises.

matskralc · 09-20-2004, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

I'm so angry at Microsoft that I've gone Linux on all but my game machine. When OOTP supports Linux I'll convert that box over as well.

Linux, Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird...who needs Microsoft anyway?

Yeah, Linux's game support, or lack thereof, is why I don't consider switching.

And as far as not complaining about Microsoft, Head Chet Holyroller nailed it perfectly: I've never paid for a Microsoft product, so I have no right to complain about them.

holyroller · 09-20-2004, 09:38 PM

At any rate, would OOTP rather be like Microsoft, a company that puts out shabby software that is easily surpassed by competitors and is completely non-responsive to their customers but continues to dominate the market because they have a complete monopoly or would you rather be a company that listens to and responds to what their customers have to say?

And anyway, it's a terrible comparison. A more apt comparison would be to the now defunct .400 Studios, Pure Sim, FOF or the like. And yes, I have purchased products from two of the three and complained when needed. I bitched and bitched and bitched about TD and returned Total Pro Football while FOF has never really had a bad release since I started buying them. I've never bought Pure Sim but I don't see why I wouldn't complain if I did and it was buggy.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-20-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by holyroller

At any rate, would OOTP rather be like Microsoft, a company that puts out shabby software that is easily surpassed by competitors and is completely non-responsive to their customers but continues to dominate the market because they have a complete monopoly or would you rather be a company that listens to and responds to what their customers have to say?

And anyway, it's a terrible comparison. A more apt comparison would be to the now defunct .400 Studios, Pure Sim, FOF or the like. And yes, I have purchased products from two of the three and complained when needed. I bitched and bitched and bitched about TD and returned Total Pro Football while FOF has never really had a bad release since I started buying them. I've never bought Pure Sim but I don't see why I wouldn't complain if I did and it was buggy.

Not trying to make the comparison concerning MS, but with ANY software developer.

holyroller · 09-20-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

Not trying to make the comparison concerning MS, but with ANY software developer.

Well then, did you read the second paragraph?

Steve Kuffrey · 09-20-2004, 09:57 PM

Yep

, just making sure.

FamundaCheese · 09-20-2004, 10:29 PM

Maybe its time to start a new forum called "Complaints, Bitches and Gripes".

Raderick · 09-20-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

When OOTP supports Linux I'll convert that box over as well.

Linux, Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird...who needs Microsoft anyway?

This is the first time we've agreed on anything.

Night2000 · 09-21-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

"Bugfixing OOTP 6 is almost done, and the AI has been improved."

All the reported bugs? Woo, I hope so. Good news in any case.

Well, that's two out of five. That still leaves: H2H, manual, and PbP.

09-20-2004, 09:23 PM	#107
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Ok, just hoping that all the folks who are concerned about the issues w/ OOTP are as concerned and as involved w/ holding the other software developers as accountable as you are in this case. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-20-2004, 09:26 PM	#109
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I got no clue, doubtful unless you have purchased the game w/i the last 7 days(I think it is). __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-20-2004, 09:27 PM	#111
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Fine, just asking for consistency. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-20-2004, 09:38 PM	#114
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	At any rate, would OOTP rather be like Microsoft, a company that puts out shabby software that is easily surpassed by competitors and is completely non-responsive to their customers but continues to dominate the market because they have a complete monopoly or would you rather be a company that listens to and responds to what their customers have to say? And anyway, it's a terrible comparison. A more apt comparison would be to the now defunct .400 Studios, Pure Sim, FOF or the like. And yes, I have purchased products from two of the three and complained when needed. I bitched and bitched and bitched about TD and returned Total Pro Football while FOF has never really had a bad release since I started buying them. I've never bought Pure Sim but I don't see why I wouldn't complain if I did and it was buggy. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

09-20-2004, 09:57 PM	#117
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Yep , just making sure. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-20-2004, 09:12 PM	#103
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,642	Given what I'm seeing in this thread, I just have to wonder how hard Mal and Mats are on Microsoft given its track record...

09-20-2004, 10:29 PM	#118
FamundaCheese Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 116	Maybe its time to start a new forum called "Complaints, Bitches and Gripes".