OOTP6 - speed up release ? - OPEN for comments - Page 6

mauboy · 04-01-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by SkyDog
I know what I'm interested in, and I know what I'm not interested in. I have no desire whatsoever to play in a 64 team history tourney, unless you could could somehow figure out a way to make it go through 20 seasons in a week. :P

I'll repeat myself: I will never, ever use this feature.

That being said, part of me still hopes the release doesn't happen for a while.

I see what you're saying... But you say unless you could figure out to go through seasons in a matter of days... Well... Considering seasons take a month or two in real life to simulate for online leagues(Are you in any, by any chance?). Playing head-to-head leagues would slow down by about 2 to 3 times more, making them from 3-6 months long, which to some people doesn't sound appealing. Why do you join head to head leagues? To watch the sims fly by? Or to play each game? Obvoiusly to play them out, and like you and MANY many others, have no interest, which is fine. It doesn't appeal to you. I think if people had time, the H2H would be more attractive to them.

I just rambled on absolutely nothing. Goes to show that I have lots of time and would love to play h2h league(s).

airportis · 04-01-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by statfreak
likewise, you have no idea either, so shut it!

All you do is complain and it dosent help anything. Now over 130 people disagree with you so I am done here and will be looking forward to OOTPs release very soon.

chrisj · 04-01-2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by BruceM
I voted no. I can see where this is going. It'll be like last year when the financial co-efficient got left out, to be added later. Right......we know what happened to that.

I have to admit that came to mind when I read what Markus posted as well. Of course I think the financial co-efficient was a bit more difficult to put in the game than head to head...

Chappy · 04-01-2004, 03:02 PM

I would agree with Jax, Bruce and Statfreak except for the fact that I, like Ben, sim seasons and not individual games and therefore have absolutely no interest in this feature. So I guess I understand both sides of the argument.

matskralc · 04-01-2004, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by airportis
If you feel this way I am sure you can wait and download it when H2H is in the game. But over 125 people disagree with you and I believe majority rules.

Um, no, Markus rules. I'm sure the majority would like the game for free, but that sure as heck doesn't mean that that majority rules.

statfreak · 04-01-2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by airportis
All you do is complain and it dosent help anything. Now over 130 people disagree with you so I am done here and will be looking forward to OOTPs release very soon.

well, you're obviously new here... presenting a differing opinion is not complaining... besides my contributions far outweigh your perceived complaining.

Ben E Lou · 04-01-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by mauboy
But you say unless you could figure out to go through seasons in a matter of days... Well... Considering seasons take a month or two in real life to simulate for online leagues(Are you in any, by any chance?).

I'm in none, because you can't get through seasons fast enough.

That's why I can say with certainty that I'll never, ever use that feature. I tried an OOTP5 multiplayer league (with Markus, Steve, etc.), and didn't enjoy it.

MidnightPyro · 04-01-2004, 03:05 PM

I'm not too sure about the financial coefficient, as I joined at the release of OOTP5. However, somehow I'm doubting Markus would scrap something as big as H2H that is already 50% done. He told us that if the game is released early, H2H will be in the next update. I don't see any reason to complain yet about that until it doesn't make it into the first update. Then we can all start freely bitching at Markus.

Apparantly 90% of people want the game without H2H, and well, 90% of people is a rather large majority. Perhaps we should just wait on what Markus decides, or atleast not let this degenerate into blatant insults.

Rizon · 04-01-2004, 03:07 PM

Sometimes, this board just needs some

Ben E Lou · 04-01-2004, 03:07 PM

Actually, statfreak has a good point. I wasn't aware that this feature had been promised in the past. I can understand his leeriness, and would feel it too if I cared about this feature.

ihatenames · 04-01-2004, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by MidnightPyro
I'm not too sure about the financial coefficient, as I joined at the release of OOTP5. However, somehow I'm doubting Markus would scrap something as big as H2H that is already 50% done. He told us that if the game is released early, H2H will be in the next update. I don't see any reason to complain yet about that until it doesn't make it into the first update. Then we can all start freely bitching at Markus.

Apparantly 90% of people want the game without H2H, and well, 90% of people is a rather large majority. Perhaps we should just wait on what Markus decides, or atleast not let this degenerate into blatant insults.

agreed.

Getting back on topic, i don't know as if i'll use this feature much unless it is incorporated into my Online leagues, but neither league is going to be switching for quite some time, so i have no problem waiting 2 or 3 weeks.

Bluenoser · 04-01-2004, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by MidnightPyro
I don't see any reason to complain yet about that until it doesn't make it into the first update.

Try looking at it this way - Nobody is complaining, they're just stating their opinions/feelings on the issue. When two people have different opinions on something, it doesn't mean one of them is complaining.

treedom · 04-01-2004, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by matskralc
Um, no, Markus rules. I'm sure the majority would like the game for free, but that sure as heck doesn't mean that that majority rules.

but Markus didn't put up a poll on wether or not it should be free

...but seriously, a few more pages of this, and i'm sure he'll be regreting even asking us...i don't understand why everyone can't just put in their vote and maybe post a comment...why do we have to try to convert everyone else to our own opinion? it's not as if anyone's going to change their mind...

PBRmeASAP · 04-01-2004, 03:11 PM

I seem to remember them saying that a "Finacial Coeff" would of required a repreogramming of the whole finacial engine which is why they scrapped it last time.

Andy · 04-01-2004, 03:12 PM

Yeah, I think this thread should be closed now. I think Markus has a pretty good idea by now how most people feel.

chrisj · 04-01-2004, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by MidnightPyro
I'm not too sure about the financial coefficient, as I joined at the release of OOTP5. However, somehow I'm doubting Markus would scrap something as big as H2H that is already 50% done. He told us that if the game is released early, H2H will be in the next update. I don't see any reason to complain yet about that until it doesn't make it into the first update. Then we can all start freely bitching at Markus.

As I recall, Markus had been working on the financial coefficient too; he just wasn't able to get everything working in time for the initial release - but he did say it would be in the first big update in this thread here: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...503#post214503

It never was.

Do the two sound similar?

Draft Dodger · 04-01-2004, 03:14 PM

I would prefer the game to include h2h when released.

and I would like for people to stop with their uninformed conjecture.

I don't think I'll see either one.

MidnightPyro · 04-01-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Andy
Yeah, I think this thread should be closed now. I think Markus has a pretty good idea by now how most people feel.

I agree. Everyone is entitled to their own opinnion, now all we can do is wait and see what Markus decides to do.

Faroo6 · 04-01-2004, 03:18 PM

i agree with treedom, markus will be wondering why he let the dogs loose with this thread after a couple more pages.

i would love to see the game come out sooner if it is completed except for H2H. I am looking to start a league with it in the future and would like to play around with all the different new features to see what will work with my league ideas and what won't. like someone said earlier in here, Markus is boss. It's his game, his decisions, and he just asks for our input. What he does with the input we give him isn't up to us in the end and there's no reason to bash every stupid post in this thread. It won't change when the game comes out. That being said I will wait until Markus decides he wants to release it. Then I will play the living H-E Double Hockey Sticks out of it.

Shub · 04-01-2004, 03:19 PM

I think that starting this thread and having a vote was a really bad move.

We are all anxious to start playing this game, but it's not finished yet. I know my credit card has been charged already, and I paid for the full product, and I wouldn't be getting it.

I would rather have just continued to be left in the dark about the release date than watch everyone fight with one another. But too late now, might as well just release it. But by releasing it early, and unfinished, how many bugs are we going to find in it? I just see the whole thing causing a lot of hate and discontent.

View Poll Results: Should I initially leave out the head-to-head feature for the release version?
YES, I wouldn't use it anyway, give me the game as soon as possible.	627	85.31%
No, I want this feature fully implemented in the release version.	108	14.69%
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04-01-2004, 03:02 PM	#104
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	I would agree with Jax, Bruce and Statfreak except for the fact that I, like Ben, sim seasons and not individual games and therefore have absolutely no interest in this feature. So I guess I understand both sides of the argument. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

04-01-2004, 03:07 PM	#109
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,370	Sometimes, this board just needs some Attached Images __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

04-01-2004, 03:14 PM	#117
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	I would prefer the game to include h2h when released. and I would like for people to stop with their uninformed conjecture. I don't think I'll see either one. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

04-01-2004, 03:05 PM	#108
MidnightPyro Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 228	I'm not too sure about the financial coefficient, as I joined at the release of OOTP5. However, somehow I'm doubting Markus would scrap something as big as H2H that is already 50% done. He told us that if the game is released early, H2H will be in the next update. I don't see any reason to complain yet about that until it doesn't make it into the first update. Then we can all start freely bitching at Markus. Apparantly 90% of people want the game without H2H, and well, 90% of people is a rather large majority. Perhaps we should just wait on what Markus decides, or atleast not let this degenerate into blatant insults.

04-01-2004, 03:07 PM	#110
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	Actually, statfreak has a good point. I wasn't aware that this feature had been promised in the past. I can understand his leeriness, and would feel it too if I cared about this feature.

04-01-2004, 03:11 PM	#114
PBRmeASAP Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 63	I seem to remember them saying that a "Finacial Coeff" would of required a repreogramming of the whole finacial engine which is why they scrapped it last time.

04-01-2004, 03:12 PM	#115
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,270	Yeah, I think this thread should be closed now. I think Markus has a pretty good idea by now how most people feel.

04-01-2004, 03:19 PM	#120
Shub Major Leagues Join Date: May 2003 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 330	I think that starting this thread and having a vote was a really bad move. We are all anxious to start playing this game, but it's not finished yet. I know my credit card has been charged already, and I paid for the full product, and I wouldn't be getting it. I would rather have just continued to be left in the dark about the release date than watch everyone fight with one another. But too late now, might as well just release it. But by releasing it early, and unfinished, how many bugs are we going to find in it? I just see the whole thing causing a lot of hate and discontent.