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Old 06-17-2022, 08:13 PM   #101
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Historical players not showing up.

Importing historical players does not seem to be working properly, or maybe it's operator error. Players such as Pudge Rodriguez, Jim Thome, Brady Anderson imported fine and were found in the FA list. But although it says historical player succeeded, players like Will Clark, Chipper Jones, Frank Thomas are no where to be found. And just as test I imported Mantle, Mays, Pujols, Cole, and Altuve. They all imported and were found just fine.

Any ideas? Thanks.
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Old 06-17-2022, 08:20 PM   #102
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Importing historical players does not seem to be working properly, or maybe it's operator error. Players such as Pudge Rodriguez, Jim Thome, Brady Anderson imported fine and were found in the FA list. But although it says historical player succeeded, players like Will Clark, Chipper Jones, Frank Thomas are no where to be found. And just as test I imported Mantle, Mays, Pujols, Cole, and Altuve. They all imported and were found just fine.

Any ideas? Thanks.
When you type Will Clark, etc. in the search bar up top, center of the screen, do they come up? For Will, as an example, you are using clarkwi02 as the import code, correct? Also, what year was used for Will?

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Old 06-17-2022, 08:56 PM   #103
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Thanks for the reply. None of those players I mentioned show anywhere even if I do a search. As for Will Clark I tried clarkwi01, 02, 03 and 04 since there were that many Will Clarks. (Will, William, Willie) I started using his rookie year, 1986, then progressed a few years. Nothing. So odd that there were no issues with most of the players I imported.
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Old 06-17-2022, 09:15 PM   #104
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Here are the codes for those players (and their rookie years). They work for me. Fail to load somebody so you go back to selecting the database. Is this the database you selected? "historical_database.obd"?

They should have come up in the search bar at the top of the game. Even with a filter on your FA list. Did the retired version of them come up or is this a custom set-up you are doing and moving MLB'ers into that new world?

Try putting those codes and years onto a txt file in the format shown in the attached .txt file (remove the examples I have there) and using the "Click here to select file" instead of trying them one by one. If you add a team abbreviation (for example "ATL") after the year's comma you can put them directly on a team.
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Old 06-17-2022, 10:01 PM   #105
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Wow thanks for helping. I am doing a custom set up and am moving players to the new world. And I have been using historical_data base.odb file. Clark, Jones and Thomas now import fine. I can't figure out why they didn't import initially. I used the same method you showed me, which is pretty much what I had been doing. I attempted to import 20 players only 5 would not import. And as a test I imported Mays, Mantle, Pujols and Altuve with no problems at all.
But you did lose me with the "txt". When I select "Click here to select file" it takes me to "locate the text file." Not sure of my next step.
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Old 06-17-2022, 10:12 PM   #106
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If you have 20 players to do, you can use the format of that .txt file to do them all at once. So, if you swap out the random players that I have in that example sheet (at the bottom of my last post - click it to download it) and load it with the import code for the player you want then a comma and then the year and keep doing that down the page, you will have made a "Mass Import" .txt file. So, when you select the "Click here to select file" you then navigate to wherever you saved that .txt file. It will then import all those players at once. Load the .txt with 1,000 players and they all come in. It's far more efficient than loading each player one by one, if you have that many to do.
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Old 06-17-2022, 10:53 PM   #107
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Ok I think I got it. It is so much easier. Sorry for being a little slow. But I still wonder why 15 players imported w/out issues. Thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:48 AM   #108
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NeL Mistaken Identity

milton000edw imports as Edward Milton.

Looks to me as if he should be this chap, Elbert "Babe" Melton.
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Old 06-24-2022, 08:51 AM   #109
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NY Giants C (1948) Walker Cooper

In the 1948 Historical Simulation, NY Giants' catcher Walker Cooper is listed in the Historical Transactions being on the injured list from 5/9/48 - 6/19/48, However, according to box scores from Baseball Reference, Walker Cooper played as a non-starter (i.e. PH, C, PR, etc) on 6/15/48, 6/16/48, 6/17/48, and 6/18/48.

Given this mistake, I am anticipating that Cooper will not be available when I eventually sim these four games, correct ?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...94806150.shtml
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:22 PM   #110
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Yep, there's a glitch in the historical transactions file. I've just modified it so that Walker Cooper moves back to the active roster on 6/15 instead of 6/20.

The new file will be incorporated into a patch, hopefully soon. If you want to fix things in the league you're currently running, do this when you get to June 15 before any games are played:

Open the editor on Cooper's profile page and change the number in his "IL Time left" line from 255 to 0.

Go to the Organization tab on the New York Giants team page and move Joe Lafata from the active roster to the reserve roster (to open up a spot for Cooper).

Move Cooper from the injured list to the active roster.

Hope this helps.
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:25 PM   #111
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Prompt, courteous service from M's rule. Simply the best. Thanks, Kim!
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Old 06-24-2022, 10:54 PM   #112
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More MLB / MiLB confusion

The Baltimore Orioles of the International League are being treated as MLB in-game rather than AA.

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Old 06-25-2022, 02:29 PM   #113
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Importing Negro League players by CSV - unpredictable results

Not sure if this is a database issue per se, but it relates to csv player import so I'll post here. I've got a list of 206 Negro League players which seems to import into different test leagues that I've set up with hugely different results. In some import scenarios all of the pitchers will come in as 20-20 RPs, because they only have a 40-grade fastball and no other pitches. Other times, they will import with a full arsenal of pitches and starter stamina, etc. Same list, same import year, nothing changes. Here are some of the variables that I've tried to isolate, but I can't seem to find a consistent process.

2 leagues are set up, both custom/fictional, but with the same 28 real teams created. In one, I set up a random debut league, deleted all the players and then imported full majors and minors systems for all those specific teams (eg 1969 Orioles, 2004 Red Sox) via csv. In the other, I deleted all the minor league levels and imported the same teams (which gave me 30-50 "real" players spread between active roster and reserve pool). I then added minor league levels and imported all of the "missing" players from the above-mentioned lists.

(As a side note, the first setup method above created some EXTREMELY weird, low ratings for a lot of players - very good teams might have their whole real life bullpen filled with 20-30 POT players. This was using normalized stats so I'm not sure what happened there. The 2nd league was set up in order to fix this specific problem, and seemed to have provided a better range of ratings).

Back to the NeL import. First phase was to import about 1200 different player-years in order to find the ones that the game "liked" best. I used normalized stats, with adjust/weaken set to 200/40 for hitters and 30/10 for pitchers (this will be consistent for all import attempts). I narrowed this down to 206 players.

First league: I first imported the list into the FA pool with the above settings, and all of the pitchers were 20/20, with a single pitch. I deleted them and then, in the same game session, I imported them into the draft pool instead - and I got solid ratings and results.

In the second league, I imported them into the draft pool but had the 20/20 issue. I deleted them and then tried importing them into the FA pool instead, and the results were good this time!

If I try to import any of the players singly, using their id and year, they come in as 20/20. Hitters are generally better but their ratings are often much lower than I get when importing the entire list.

I'm curious for any insight as to why there is so much variation in what seems to be an easily repeatable process? It seems like there is some underlying coding error causing this.
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Old 06-25-2022, 02:35 PM   #114
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NeL file for the above post

Here is the file for the above post, if anyone wants to test:
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Old 06-25-2022, 04:29 PM   #115
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Something is off there, wwqat. I can replicate this.

Here's Mule Suttles. The good one came up when I created a league in 1928 with NeL/minors toggled on. Looks great.

The second is from that same 1928 game but with me importing Mules to the FA list (even using the reduced 200/40 adjustment for hitters). Notice the free agent one doesn't have a "Real Life" stats tab. It's like he is a shell with just the bio info and not the stats to build him with. Even the position is random.
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Old 06-26-2022, 12:12 AM   #116
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What ID / year did you use for this, bud?
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Old 06-26-2022, 12:18 AM   #117
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My list is 2 posts up
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Old 06-26-2022, 06:21 PM   #118
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Expansion Draft 1977 does not create a Draft Pool. Tell me how to upload the files to show you.
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Old 06-26-2022, 06:32 PM   #119
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Expansion Draft 1977 does not create a Draft Pool. Tell me how to upload the files to show you.
The link for instructions on how to upload files is typically accessed off the post below, but I'm getting the following error trying to hit the link in the post. In the meantime, relay more details like when the game began (1977? 1976? before?), and settings customized for the Historical game. Is there no expansion draft occurring? Does the league auto-evolve or is it set to manual expansion? Is the expansion happening but no draft occurred? Is the draft happening as it should and there are just a handful of players in it? They'll need to know context.

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Hank Biasatti (biasaha01)'s name is spelled incorrectly ("Biasetti") in the database.
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