WS : Phillies @ Rays - Page 6

CMH · 10-26-2008, 11:00 AM

The only thing I learned from these three games is that no one has the edge.

This series has perhaps the best chance of any to go 7 games and even then no one can clearly pick a winner.

jaxmagicman · 10-26-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by marc

Boy is that a reach.

They both were reaches. The Phillies were given two horrendous calls the night before, the Balk and the pick-off at second. I don't see how the two horrendous calls the next day are any more reason for losing than the two the day before.

jaxmagicman · 10-26-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Autism Speaks

Right now, the umpires are giving this series to Tampa.

BS. There were calls that went Phillies way too. What about the strike three that was two inches off the ground for BJ Upton. As for that blown call it was more an honest mistake than anything. The ump listens for the foot hitting and the ball hitting the glove. It was a close call and anybody could have gotten it wrong whether they were going for one team or the next.

John C · 10-26-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

They both were reaches. The Phillies were given two horrendous calls the night before, the Balk and the pick-off at second. I don't see how the two horrendous calls the next day are any more reason for losing than the two the day before.

Video showed that the pickoff at second was the correct call. It was rather conclusive. Not sure how that can even be argued.

I also love the double-standard you're setting up (calls against the Phils are an honest mistake, while calls against the Rays are horrendous, can't-believe-they-called-it-that-way calls), as well as how you've become a Rays apologist. It's amusing more than anything else.

jaxmagicman · 10-26-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John C

Video showed that the pickoff at second was the correct call. It was rather conclusive. Not sure how that can even be argued.

I also love the double-standard you're setting up (calls against the Phils are an honest mistake, while calls against the Rays are horrendous, can't-believe-they-called-it-that-way calls), as well as how you've become a Rays apologist. It's amusing more than anything else.

I said both sets of calls were horrendous (read what you quoted). And they weren't really. As for replays, I am not sure what replays you were watching but every single one I saw showed that he was out.

I think bad calls are part of all games. Or calls that are close and umps make mistakes on that we with replay going super slo-mo can tell are mistakes. I was simply pointing out to the phillie fans that say the umps have it in for them that those types of calls are happening on both sides of the ball, and it isn't just a sympthon of umps hating the phils.

rudel.dietrich · 10-26-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vezna31

Yeah, but with a little help from their friends.

Oh please spare me
Moyer was given a strike zone that all he had to do was throw the ball in the general area of the batter for it to be called a strike

Erik W. · 10-26-2008, 08:46 PM

Yup, the umps are clearly in the Rays' pockets.

John C · 10-26-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Oh please spare me
Moyer was given a strike zone that all he had to do was throw the ball in the general area of the batter for it to be called a strike

Both were. Tampa hitters helped him quite a bit by chasing a lot. The umpire was even characterized as a strike-caller.

Jason · 10-26-2008, 08:47 PM

Rollins was out. Bad call to benefit Philly there.

John C · 10-26-2008, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I didn't understand what the ump saw when he made that call. I look forward to the explanation, because you know there will be one.

Jason · 10-26-2008, 08:51 PM

Philly just doesn't seem to want to put a game away. No killer instinct.

Vezna31 · 10-26-2008, 08:52 PM

Rollins got away with one there. And of course, they leave the bases loaded, only getting a run because of a walk. Two chances to bring in more and they fail.

marc · 10-26-2008, 08:55 PM

Terrible call.

Of course if they go to 2nd like they should, it's an inning-ending double play.

Vezna31 · 10-26-2008, 08:56 PM

Blanton throwing well so far.

Vezna31 · 10-26-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

Terrible call.

Of course if they go to 2nd like they should, it's an inning-ending double play.

Which would have been easy since Burrell is slow as snail sh!t.

John C · 10-26-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vezna31

Which would have been easy since Burrell is slow as snail sh!t.

That was Ryan Howard, by the way.

Vezna31 · 10-26-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by John C

That was Ryan Howard, by the way.

Ehhh...same difference. He's just Burrell with a better tan.

OMG...the Phillies finally got a hit with men in scoring position. I can't believe it.

Jason · 10-26-2008, 09:28 PM

About time they actually push across a run.

marc · 10-26-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by John C

That was Ryan Howard, by the way.

Well in that case, no way would they have turned two.

But seriously, Mike Lieberthal thinks Pat Burrell and Ryan Howard are slow.

Jason · 10-26-2008, 09:40 PM

Watching the commercials makes me realize the Phillies need Jack Bauer.

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Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Yup, the umps are clearly in the Rays' pockets. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

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Vezna31 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wherever My VPN says Posts: 1,986	Rollins got away with one there. And of course, they leave the bases loaded, only getting a run because of a walk. Two chances to bring in more and they fail. __________________ Owner/Operator - Vezna Financial Services - Accounting and taxes.

10-26-2008, 08:55 PM	#113
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Terrible call. Of course if they go to 2nd like they should, it's an inning-ending double play. __________________

10-26-2008, 11:00 AM	#101
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	The only thing I learned from these three games is that no one has the edge. This series has perhaps the best chance of any to go 7 games and even then no one can clearly pick a winner.

10-26-2008, 08:47 PM	#109
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	Rollins was out. Bad call to benefit Philly there.

10-26-2008, 08:51 PM	#111
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	Philly just doesn't seem to want to put a game away. No killer instinct.

10-26-2008, 08:56 PM	#114
Vezna31 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wherever My VPN says Posts: 1,986	Blanton throwing well so far. __________________ Owner/Operator - Vezna Financial Services - Accounting and taxes.

10-26-2008, 09:28 PM	#118
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	About time they actually push across a run.

10-26-2008, 09:40 PM	#120
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	Watching the commercials makes me realize the Phillies need Jack Bauer.