Edison Miranda vs Allen Green - Page 6

mh2365 · 02-28-2007, 02:35 PM

See Codrington was out .. Williams was not only out but twitching

Zima · 02-28-2007, 03:13 PM

Allan Green wolf's aggression is much more now by hour after hour. I don't envy to Miranda of all that. Allan by Wolf's KO in 4.
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mh2365 · 02-28-2007, 03:49 PM

LOL .. you are too funny Zima. Good luck to your boy Saturday night. I'll be around on Sunday to offer congrats if he wins.

hamed · 02-28-2007, 05:04 PM

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Quick yes ... I think Morrison's was more brutal though .. esp because of the lame brained ref who allowed Mercer to land at least 5 shots while Morrison was out cold in a sitting position against the turnstyle. Green was one solid punch, Mercer hit Morrison about 10 times after Morrison was out (at least from memory)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XC4eibhR1bM

I vaguely recall that fight, I think it was back in 1991. I did see some clips of Tommy taking a pounding recently & getting stopped but beyond that, my memory is a little fuzzy regarding that one.

Part of the reason that Jaidon KO sticks out for me is shortly before that fight, I saw him in the game, liked his unique name & thought I could build the guy into a star in my universe. Then I saw his shocking KO loss.

mh2365 · 03-01-2007, 02:08 PM

Up until this point I wasn't really rooting for anyone just thought Miranda would win. Now I'm all out rooting for Miranda. Just read an interview with Green on Maxboxing where he said two of the most absurd things I have ever heard.

1) He claims Miranda hasn't fought the level of competition that he has

and

2) that Miranda is getting all his press because of the Gibbs KO ... first off the fights with Eastman and Abraham is what is boosting Miranda and second off it's the one punch against a green punk in Codrington that is the only reason anyone knows who Green is.

I hope Miranda retires him.

PS ... maxboxing said Vegas odds are 4 to 1 in favor of Miranda

Mr Big · 03-01-2007, 05:33 PM

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Maybe we should get you, Fuente and the wives or g/f's to the house for Oscar/Floyd ... if the weather cooperates we could do pool and bbq during the day then fight at night.

I would love to, except that my brother-in-law wrangled me in right after the fight was announced. Will definitely have to do the pool, bbq, fight thing sometime, though. Sounds like a good day!

Mr Big · 03-01-2007, 05:48 PM

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Up until this point I wasn't really rooting for anyone just thought Miranda would win. Now I'm all out rooting for Miranda. Just read an interview with Green on Maxboxing where he said two of the most absurd things I have ever heard.

1) He claims Miranda hasn't fought the level of competition that he has

and

2) that Miranda is getting all his press because of the Gibbs KO ... first off the fights with Eastman and Abraham is what is boosting Miranda and second off it's the one punch against a green punk in Codrington that is the only reason anyone knows who Green is.

I hope Miranda retires him.

PS ... maxboxing said Vegas odds are 4 to 1 in favor of Miranda

Allan Green has been smoking something if he thinks he has faced better competition than Edison Miranda. I guess that breaking a reigning world champion's jaw is nothing compared to being knocked down by a journeyman fighter. Come Saturday, Green is in for a serious reality check.

Zima · 03-02-2007, 04:10 PM

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It's time to be famous!!!

a87star · 03-02-2007, 04:46 PM

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Up until this point I wasn't really rooting for anyone just thought Miranda would win. Now I'm all out rooting for Miranda. Just read an interview with Green on Maxboxing where he said two of the most absurd things I have ever heard.

1) He claims Miranda hasn't fought the level of competition that he has

and

2) that Miranda is getting all his press because of the Gibbs KO ... first off the fights with Eastman and Abraham is what is boosting Miranda and second off it's the one punch against a green punk in Codrington that is the only reason anyone knows who Green is.

I hope Miranda retires him.

PS ... maxboxing said Vegas odds are 4 to 1 in favor of Miranda

Don't believe everything you read. I try not to put all my faith into boxing news sites because most of the time it can appear tabloidish just to get the fight promoted. IMO it seems like this came from Green's promotion team. Bobby Dobbs (the matchmaker for Allan) has been posting stuff on the BoxRec forums all week making statements such as "Green made Miranda look like a coward in the stare down by pushing him against a table". To me it all seems laughable because Miranda doesn't look like a guy that would be easily intimidated. Arthur Abraham gave him the two finger salute and he ended up eating food down a straw for eight weeks.

mh2365 · 03-03-2007, 10:20 AM

Maxboxing is usually pretty reliable and the words were coming directly from Green.

a87star · 03-03-2007, 01:24 PM

If Green wins this fight tonight, I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong about him. I'm pretty sure he wouln't last half the fight with Miranda especially with Green keep fueling the fire.

Mr Big · 03-04-2007, 02:09 AM

Solid win for Miranda, although he didn't get the knockout I expected. Was surprised that Green actually had him down in the 8th. Edison came back strongly in the 9th, then put the finishing touches on Allan in the 10th, twice sending him to the canvas. Final scores: 97-90, 96-91, and 96-91 Miranda.

Zima · 03-04-2007, 05:31 AM

It not a shame. Allan was good at hometown of Miranda, where Edison's more fans live. Allan, you take much more skills after nice puncher Miranda fight! Allan on a good stage now than he was! Miranda, you real next Champ and one of great punchers. But i'm not sure that Miranda may win over Abraham 2. I want to Congratulation all fans of Colombian fighter!! May be soon Allan take on Miranda vs Green II for the World belt at USA. It is a reason after that tonight fight.

mh2365 · 03-04-2007, 02:01 PM

Green fought like a scared fighter the entire fight. To me his stock went way down after that fight. He scored a flash knockdown and didn't really even try to follow it up. His chin is a bit better than I was giving him credit for but he was out cold in the 10th round and was saved by the bell. I basically see him like I see Sechew Powell now. Good against crappy competition, but can't do anything against top contenders.

It had absolutely nothing to do with where the fight was. Green took a huge shot in the first round and fought scared the rest of the way. In terms of the game it was a 7 rated fighter beating a 4 rated fighter at best. Why Green would agree to a weight of 162 I have no idea.

Open scoring should not exist .. caused Urkel's corner to call the fight. Cotto looked as good as he could against a solid defensive fighter.

Zima · 03-04-2007, 02:20 PM

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Bam Bam · 03-04-2007, 03:33 PM

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Green fought like a scared fighter the entire fight. To me his stock went way down after that fight. He scored a flash knockdown and didn't really even try to follow it up. His chin is a bit better than I was giving him credit for but he was out cold in the 10th round and was saved by the bell. I basically see him like I see Sechew Powell now. Good against crappy competition, but can't do anything against top contenders.

It had absolutely nothing to do with where the fight was. Green took a huge shot in the first round and fought scared the rest of the way. In terms of the game it was a 7 rated fighter beating a 4 rated fighter at best. Why Green would agree to a weight of 162 I have no idea.

Open scoring should not exist .. caused Urkel's corner to call the fight. Cotto looked as good as he could against a solid defensive fighter.

Yep I'm all set on Allan Green, don't need to see anymore. And Miranda has good energy but lacks some fundementals. Not sure how far he can go.

Urkal was feisty, and that cut on Cotto really seemed to effect him. Miguel admitted so. I wonder how Cotto would have handled being in the same situation except with a guy who hits hard..

Still loving Cotto though

a87star · 03-04-2007, 03:54 PM

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Green fought like a scared fighter the entire fight. To me his stock went way down after that fight. He scored a flash knockdown and didn't really even try to follow it up. His chin is a bit better than I was giving him credit for but he was out cold in the 10th round and was saved by the bell. I basically see him like I see Sechew Powell now. Good against crappy competition, but can't do anything against top contenders.

It had absolutely nothing to do with where the fight was. Green took a huge shot in the first round and fought scared the rest of the way. In terms of the game it was a 7 rated fighter beating a 4 rated fighter at best. Why Green would agree to a weight of 162 I have no idea.

Open scoring should not exist .. caused Urkel's corner to call the fight. Cotto looked as good as he could against a solid defensive fighter.

Green is what I thought he would be. A fighter with limited boxing skills and a fair chin. Once Miranda landed that big shot in the first round, he fought very tenative. Green caught Miranda off balance and scored a flash knockdown but didn't have the courage to capitalize.

Open scoring ruined Urkal's chances of going the distance. He was very game against Cotto and took his best body shots without flinching. Uli Wegner is a terrible guy to have in anyone's corner. The guy lets Abraham fight with a busted jaw and blood dripping out his mouth but throws in the towel when Urkal giving a spirited effort. Good thing Wlad got rid of him. His career would have been in tatters if Uli was still training him.

mh2365 · 03-04-2007, 05:53 PM

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Yep I'm all set on Allan Green, don't need to see anymore. And Miranda has good energy but lacks some fundementals. Not sure how far he can go.

Urkal was feisty, and that cut on Cotto really seemed to effect him. Miguel admitted so. I wonder how Cotto would have handled being in the same situation except with a guy who hits hard..

Still loving Cotto though

Yeah IMO, Green just became an journeyman after that fight ... hard to pay money to see a guy who talked so much trash go out and fight scared. I had it 98-89, almost scored it 99-89 because I thought Miranda won the round he was knocked down in.

Urkal had only been stopped one time in his entire career so that was a good test for Cotto. I'm a huge Cotto homer but the HBO guys were right when they said he hasn't been in against a puncher since Torres. We'll see what type of Champ Cotto is going to be when he takes on Judah. Judah is definitely his biggest opponent yet.

mh2365 · 03-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Was looking for Zima to post a picture of Green superimposed as a mouse but I guess he is in denial because of a flash knockdown.

franklin_1 · 03-04-2007, 06:35 PM

Urkal did butt Cotto some, but I've got to say, I commented many times that it looked like Cotto was hitting him square in the back and that the ref should have been warning him about it because it was clear as day. Not sure he doesn't get warned at an impartial site like in the states.

03-01-2007, 02:08 PM	#105
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Up until this point I wasn't really rooting for anyone just thought Miranda would win. Now I'm all out rooting for Miranda. Just read an interview with Green on Maxboxing where he said two of the most absurd things I have ever heard. 1) He claims Miranda hasn't fought the level of competition that he has and 2) that Miranda is getting all his press because of the Gibbs KO ... first off the fights with Eastman and Abraham is what is boosting Miranda and second off it's the one punch against a green punk in Codrington that is the only reason anyone knows who Green is. I hope Miranda retires him. PS ... maxboxing said Vegas odds are 4 to 1 in favor of Miranda Last edited by mh2365; 03-01-2007 at 02:09 PM.

03-04-2007, 02:09 AM	#112
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	Solid win for Miranda, although he didn't get the knockout I expected. Was surprised that Green actually had him down in the 8th. Edison came back strongly in the 9th, then put the finishing touches on Allan in the 10th, twice sending him to the canvas. Final scores: 97-90, 96-91, and 96-91 Miranda. __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

03-04-2007, 02:01 PM	#114
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Green fought like a scared fighter the entire fight. To me his stock went way down after that fight. He scored a flash knockdown and didn't really even try to follow it up. His chin is a bit better than I was giving him credit for but he was out cold in the 10th round and was saved by the bell. I basically see him like I see Sechew Powell now. Good against crappy competition, but can't do anything against top contenders. It had absolutely nothing to do with where the fight was. Green took a huge shot in the first round and fought scared the rest of the way. In terms of the game it was a 7 rated fighter beating a 4 rated fighter at best. Why Green would agree to a weight of 162 I have no idea. Open scoring should not exist .. caused Urkel's corner to call the fight. Cotto looked as good as he could against a solid defensive fighter. Last edited by mh2365; 03-04-2007 at 02:03 PM.

02-28-2007, 02:35 PM	#101
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	See Codrington was out .. Williams was not only out but twitching

02-28-2007, 03:13 PM	#102
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154	Allan Green wolf's aggression is much more now by hour after hour. I don't envy to Miranda of all that. Allan by Wolf's KO in 4. I hope, that Miranda will alive and not will died.

02-28-2007, 03:49 PM	#103
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	LOL .. you are too funny Zima. Good luck to your boy Saturday night. I'll be around on Sunday to offer congrats if he wins.

03-02-2007, 04:10 PM	#108
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154	It's time to be famous!!!

03-03-2007, 10:20 AM	#110
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Maxboxing is usually pretty reliable and the words were coming directly from Green.

03-03-2007, 01:24 PM	#111
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	If Green wins this fight tonight, I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong about him. I'm pretty sure he wouln't last half the fight with Miranda especially with Green keep fueling the fire.

03-04-2007, 05:31 AM	#113
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154	It not a shame. Allan was good at hometown of Miranda, where Edison's more fans live. Allan, you take much more skills after nice puncher Miranda fight! Allan on a good stage now than he was! Miranda, you real next Champ and one of great punchers. But i'm not sure that Miranda may win over Abraham 2. I want to Congratulation all fans of Colombian fighter!! May be soon Allan take on Miranda vs Green II for the World belt at USA. It is a reason after that tonight fight.

03-04-2007, 02:20 PM	#115
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154

03-04-2007, 05:55 PM	#119
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Was looking for Zima to post a picture of Green superimposed as a mouse but I guess he is in denial because of a flash knockdown.

03-04-2007, 06:35 PM	#120
franklin_1 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heartland Posts: 138	Urkal did butt Cotto some, but I've got to say, I commented many times that it looked like Cotto was hitting him square in the back and that the ref should have been warning him about it because it was clear as day. Not sure he doesn't get warned at an impartial site like in the states.