Louisville Boxing Association - Page 58

mh2365 · 02-19-2006, 06:30 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

May 22, 1910

Frank Erne (CH) (19-5-2) scored a UD15 over Austin Gibbons (10/14) (22-18-3) to retain both the WBA and WBC Lightweight titles.

It was a easy and boring fight as there were no knockdowns or cuts. Erne dominated the fight from the opening bell.

I had it 147-139. Markus Heinsohn, ringside expert, spent most of the fight chatting up the ringcard girls and decided the fight was very close, giving Erne the slight nod at 143-142.

The official judges scored it 146-139/146-140/147-139. In my game this seems to be a trend when Markus is the ringside expert, is he programmed to be blind?

On the undercard

BW - Owen Moran (8/8) (27-6-6) UD10 Tommy Doherty (33/34) (9-8-1) (Doherty at pre)

LH - Jack O'Brien (2/1) (25-5-1) UD10 Rough Thompson (18/20) (11-6) (thompson at pre)

BW - Cockney Cohen (40/36) (9-7-3) UD10 Billy James (34/37) (9-7-3) (james at pre)

MW - Jake Ahearn (UR) (9-0) UD8 James Payne (UR) (8-5) 79-75 (both at pre for this club fight)

BW - Johnny Reagan (club) (5-19-4) UD8 Harry Dally (UR) (9-4-1) (dally at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 02-20-2006, 05:06 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

May 24, 1910

BW - Terry McGovern (22/8) (32-7-4) KO10 Dave Sullivan (6/9) (15-3-1) 87-84 (Sullivan at pre ... close fight through 6, then McGovern took over)

LH - John Wille (14/11) (13-5) TKO4 Jack Sullivan (19-19-1) (13/20) (wille at pre)

MW - Billy Baker (10/8) (20-16-4) UD10 Jerry Jerome (22/26) (13-4) (jerome at pre)

LW - Young Donahue (43/37) (11-5-2) SD10 Tim Callahan (46/47) (10-6-1) (both at pre)

LW - Joe Gregg (UR) (8-1-1) MD8 Mark Higgins (UR) (3-6-2) (both at pre for this club fight)

FLY - Jim Donald (UR/3) (8-6-1) SD8 Charley Harvey (UR/5) (9-2-4) (both at pre, both move to the main division)

**** note **** That gives me 8 ranked fighters in FLY so I will start a tourney next month for the first champ. Since they haven't had too many fights under the new system and they tend to fight out of weight class alot, it will be a randomly selected tourney.

bigMatt · 02-20-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

I had it 147-139. Markus Heinsohn, ringside expert, spent most of the fight chatting up the ringcard girls and decided the fight was very close, giving Erne the slight nod at 143-142.

The official judges scored it 146-139/146-140/147-139. In my game this seems to be a trend when Markus is the ringside expert, is he programmed to be blind?

Did you load some special girls into your uni? I'd figure Markus to be pretty tired of Amy Longlegs and Tony Whazzizname after all of the millions of fights he's attended in our respective universes.

Romdawg88 · 02-20-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

Did you load some special girls into your uni? I'd figure Markus to be pretty tired of Amy Longlegs and Tony Whazzizname after all of the millions of fights he's attended in our respective universes.

That or the man just gets completely hammered before each fight.

mh2365 · 02-21-2006, 05:26 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

May 26, 1910

LH - George Byers (4/3) (14-7-1) UD10 Al Weinig (3/5) (13-11-1) 97-91 (WBC eliminator, title bout now set for July between Byers and Donaldson)

LW - Kid McPartland (15/13) (18-16-4) UD10 Leach Cross (33/39) (10-11-1) (mcpartland has won 6 of 7)

LH - Georges Carpentier (UR) (13-1) TKO7 Jack Beauscholte (36/36) (8-11-2) (carpentier at pre)

FW - Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan (66/46) (13-15-4) UD10 Johnny Crowe (13/48) (11-4-1) (sullivan at post, crowe at pre - sullivan got 240.9 pp for this win, which got him back in the positives)

HW - Jack McCormick (UR) (10-4) TKO6 Mike Brennan (club) (15-20) (mccormick at pre, brennan at post for this club fight.... mccormick moves to main with the win)

HW - Charles Cooley (club) (8-12-2) MD10 Tug Wilson (club) (13-21-1) (wilson at end, cooley stepped up to HW for this club fight)

mh2365 · 02-21-2006, 05:52 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

May 28, 1910

WW - Kyle Whitney (10/7) (16-4-3) UD10 Kid Graves (7/10) (16-4-2) 98-93

BW - Johnny Murphy (4/4) (16-1-1) KO7 Dave Ross (23/23) (9-6-1) (ross at pre)

MW - Jim Griffin (40/39) (12-7) UD10 Jack Moffat (11-12-1) (34/40)

HW - Jimmy Elliot (68/67) (26-7-3) TKO3 Stockings Conroy (73/77) (8-7-3)

LH - Pat McCourt (18/14) (9-6-2) UD10 Ralph Calloway (34/35) (7-9-2) 95-95 (both at pre, Mccourt down and cut but still won)

LW - Jimmy Britt (club) (10-15-4) MD8 Paddy Smith (UR/44) (7-6-2) (britt at post, smith at pre for this club fight ... smith moves to main)

mh2365 · 02-21-2006, 06:19 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

May 30, 1910

Aurelio Herrera (11/10) (19-8) scored a KO6 over prospect Willie Ritchie (18/20) (13-3-2) (ritchie at pre).

Herrera jumped on Ritchie in the first round dropping him for a 6 count. Ritchie made a nice comeback taking the next two rounds but then Herrera's power shots started landing and it was obvious Ritchie was in over his head.

In the 4th and 5th rounds, Herrera outscored Ritchie 49-8 on points, and then mid-way through the 6th Herrera dropped him for good to win the bout.

I had it 48-46 at the stoppage.

On the undercard

HW - Sam Langford (9/9) (24-6-1) KO4 Al Kubiak (30/43) (10-6) (kubiak at pre)

LW - Jacob Hyams (UR) (9-3) MD10 Jack Grace (52/54) (7-11) (both at pre)

HW - Peter Courtney (43/38) (14-4-1) SD10 Hank Griffin (42/46) (18-9-2) (courtney at pre ... good win)

HW - J. Black (UR/22) (11-4) SD10 Oliver Williams (62/69) (10-8-3) (black at pre)

FLY - Bill Ladbury (UR) (6-0-2) KO2 Jack McDermott (UR) (6-7) 10-9 Ladbury (both at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 02-21-2006, 06:34 AM

One of the three title bouts this month saw a huge upset as Alec Greggains defeated Jack Butler for the WBA Lightheavyweight title. The other two bouts saw the champs defend their titles as Charles McCoy and Frank Erne both had relatively easy wins.

Movements (all club to main unless noted)

HW - Jack Langley (6-7-2), Johnny Woods (18-18-3) (new rank 41), Jack McCormick (10-4)

LH - Thomas Sayers (10-1-3), Al Kauffman (12-12) (new rank 9), Joe Craig (5-10-1) (down to club)

WW - Unk Russell (10-2-1)

LW - Jack Lynch (10-2), Jig Stone (10-0), Paddy Smith (7-6-2)

FW - Kid Landfield (12-12-2) (new rank 7), Buck Leary (5-8-2), Danny McBride 10-1-1)

BW - Joe Bertrand (10-2-3), Frankie Burns (10-2-1), Jack Ward (10-2), Jack Lyman (8-6-1), Steve Flanagan (10-1)

FLY - Tommy Lewis (10-2-3), Charley Harvey (9-2-4), Jim Donald (8-6-1)

Debut Rankings

HW - Jack Langley (6-7-2) 32
HW - Jack Downey (10-2-3) 48
HW - J. Black (11-4) 22
LW - Paddy Smith (7-6-2) 44
LW - Hughie Mehegan (11-4) 33
LW - Jack Hopper (12-3) 24
FW - Charles Lampey (10-3-2) 25
FW - Buck Leary (5-8-2) 28
BW - Jimmy Gorman (14-1) 14
BW - Elias Hamilton (9-6) 22
BW - George Wright (13-3)
BW - Joe Bertrand (10-2-3) 15
BW - Jack Lyman (8-6-1) 24
FLY - Joe McGrath (11-2-2) 2
FLY - Tommy Lewis (7-5-3) 4
FLY - Charley Harvey (9-2-4) 5
FLY - Jim Donald (8-6-1) 3

mh2365 · 02-21-2006, 10:38 AM

Random seedings since they haven't been fighting each other too much

June first round bouts

Jack Foy (7-6-3) vs. Jim Donald (8-6-1)
Joe McGrath (11-2-2) vs. Tommy Lewis (7-5-3)

July first round bouts

Sid Simth (10-5-2) vs. Kid Murphy (16-4-2)
Johnny Hughes (12-2-5) vs Charley Harvey (9-2-4)

mh2365 · 02-22-2006, 05:37 AM

64 out of the 134 beginners were in action this month against the TC's and they went 51-8-5.

moving up to club

HW - James Burke (7-0), Young Sailor Burke (8-0), Tom Carter (4-3), Billy Clark (7-1), James Couper (6-1-1), Jim Holland (1-7)

, Andy Morris (7-1), John Morrissey (7-1)

LH - Tom Cowler (4-1), Dave Smith (8-0)

MW - Young Mitchell (8-0)

WW - Eddie Shevlin (7-0-1)

LW - Johnny Allen (7-0-1), Knockout Brown (7-0), George Decker (4-3-1), William Parker (7-0-1), Art Simms (7-0), George Taylor (7-1), Eddie Wallace (5-1-2)

FW - Mississippi (8-0), Eddie O'Keefe (7-0-1)

mh2365 · 02-23-2006, 05:17 AM

184 out of the 455 main division fighters are in action this month with 60 of those fighting TC's. They went 54-6 against them.

mh2365 · 02-23-2006, 05:25 AM

Six total fights with a couple of good ones and a couple of stiffs.

HW - (WBA/C) Joe Jeannette (21-0) vs Sam Langford (9) (24-6-1) (first meeting)

MW - (WBA) Frank Klaus (17-6-1) vs Jimmy Handler (3) (11-10-3) (first meeting)

WW - (WBA/C) Joe Gans (30-4-3) vs Terry Martin (4) (17-2-1) (first meeting)

FW - (WBA) Jimmy Briggs (14-10-5) vs Eddie Pierce (16) (10-5-1) (pierce at pre, Briggs gets a bit of a gimme in his first defense, first meeting)

BW - (WBC) Johnny Coulon (22-3-2) vs Johnny Murphy (4) (16-1-1) (first meeting)

BW - (WBA) Al Delmont (20-8-2) vs Frankie Neil (12) (20-18-3) (lost title to Neil last meeting by UD15)

mh2365 · 02-27-2006, 05:12 AM

102 out of 270 club fighters in action this month with 50 of them facing TC's. They went 37-9-4 against them.

On to the June fight cards

mh2365 · 02-27-2006, 12:32 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 1, 1910

Hw - John C. Heenan (10/4) (24-8-1) SD10 Larry Foley (2/8) (24-8-3) (98-94 Heenan)

HW - Joe Goss (12/11) (20-5-2) UD10 Paddy Ryan (71/75) (9-13-2)

MW - Jack Burke (34/31) (21-15-6) TD6 Jack Bonner (25/32) (19-18-1) (48-46 Burke) (bonner at post)

WW - Arthur Evernden (UR/15) (13-2) KO10 Jack Goodman (27/28) (10-6-3) (both at pre for this fight)

HW - Enos Phillips (UR) (7-6-1) TD5 Jem Roche (UR) (3-4-3) (both at pre for this club fight)

HW - Charles Cooley (club) (9-12-2) UD10 Joe Lannon (club) (17-22) (lannon at post, Cooley stepped up to HW for this club fight)

mh2365 · 02-27-2006, 01:00 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 3, 1910

Frank Klaus (CH) (18-6-1) scored an easy TKO10 over Jimmy Handler (3/5) (11-11-3) for his 3rd defense of the WBA Middleweight Title. This was also the 30th WBA Middleweight Title fight, the first belt to reach 30 in the LBA.

Klaus dominated this fight from the opening bell, hitting Handler at will. Handler was obviously overmatched but kept coming forward trying to land on big shot.

Handler caught Klaus enough to probably win the 6th and 7th rounds but was exhausted by the end of the 8th. Handler started carrying his hands low and Klaus hit him repeatedly throughout the 9th. Handler went down early in the 10th and again a minute later. He gamely got to his feet but the ref had seen enough.

I had it 88-84 at the stoppage.

On the undercard

MW - Joe Thomas (28/24) (14-5-3) UD10 Dave Kurtz (24/28) (6-7-3) (kurtz at pre)

WW - Wildcat Ferns (8/4) (15-4) KO6 Frank Burke (UR) (9-2) (both at pre for this fight)

LW - Young Donahue (40/38) (12-5-2) DRAW10 Jack Hopper (25/25) (12-4) (96-94 Donahue) (both at pre)

HW - Charley Miller (UR) (6-2-1) UD8 Charley Robinson (UR) (6-4) (both at pre for this club fight)

LH - Charley Stevenson (club) (10-11) KO7 SP Stockton (club) (16-19-2) (stockton at post for this club fight)

mh2365 · 02-28-2006, 04:48 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 5, 1910

Worst fight card I've had ... didn't watch a single fight, no fighter ranked higher than 22. Sometimes the draw power is too high or I think in this case I had too many fight cards this month.

MW - George Rooke (22/18) (19-16-1) KO8 Charley Johnson (39/42) (9-12-2)

LW - Battling Nelson (32/28) (22-15-1) TKO7 Dave Wallace (22/29) (10-7) (wallace at pre)

LW - Jimmy Carroll (39/33) (18-14-5) TKO10 Mike Leonard (41/45) (12-5-3) (leonard at pre)

FW - Martin Flaherty (68/62) (9-11-3) UD10 Jimmy Dime (37/64) (12-6) (dime at pre)

LH - Tom Parks (UR) (6-7-1) UD8 Jack Stewart (club) (10-18-4) (parks at pre, stewart at end for this club fight)

MW - Tommy Cleary (UR) (9-4-1) UD8 Young Billy Manning (UR) (7-6) (both at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 02-28-2006, 10:42 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 7th, 1910

WW - Charley Hitte (14/11) (18-11) KO8 Dick Nelson (24/27) (12-6) 66-66 at stoppage (nelson at pre, good fight Hitte had a cut re-opened twice so the fight could've been stopped at anytime)

FW - Will Curley (18/11) (15-7-3) UD10 Sammy Kelly (34/45) (11-10-1)

BW - Joe Bertrand (15/11) (11-2-3) TKO5 George Church (UR) (10-1-1) 39-37 Church at stoppage (both at pre ... Church tore something in his shoulder in the 5th and couldn't continue ... huge win for Bertrand, won't post this in the upset thread (5 over a 9) because of it being a fluke win)

HW - Tom Lees (63/47) (22-16) TKO9 Jack Burns (27/42) (15-8-1) (Lees does have 1 more pp than Burns but I think there must be a variable built in so different titles have different rankings as I see this every now and then. WBC has Lees at 35 and Burns at 45)

MW - Harris Martin (17/14) (21-16-5) UD10 Billy Kramer (19/24) (10-6) (Kramer at pre)

LH - Dan Dwyer (club/9) (17-17-1) KO3 JH Brown (club) (15-17-3) (both at post for this club fight, Dwyer moves back to main with the win)

mh2365 · 02-28-2006, 12:44 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 9, 1910

Jimmy Briggs (CH) (15-10-5) lost his first title defense back in 1904 after upsetting Abe Attell. This time he scored a KO10 over Eddie Pierce (17/20) (10-6-3) (pierce at pre) after upsetting Jem Driscoll to make his first title defense.

This was sort of a gimme for Briggs to celebrate his coming all the way back from the Club ranks to win the title again. He deserved one easy bout. This was very easy as I had it 89-82 at the time of the KO with him only losting the 3rd round and that one was close.

He battered Pierce most of the fight finally putting him down and out in the 10th. He holds both the WBA and the WBC titles but this one was only sanctioned by the WBA. I would expect a tougher defense next time out.

On the undercard

FW - Eugene Hornbacher (65/61) (11-7-1) TKO9 Frank Zimpher (53/62) (9-7) (both at pre)

BW - Jack Madden (UR/12) (13-2) MD10 Jimmy Dunn (19/25) (9-5-3) (both at pre)

HW - Mike Conley (34/30) (12-4) DQ10 Jim Harvey (84/87) (9-8-1) 87-87 at stoppage(both at pre, Harvey warned 3 times before DQ)

HW - Ned Cheeley (UR) (7-0-3) UD8 Jem Smith (UR) (9-3-1) 78-75 (both at pre in this club fight, Smith misses out on a chance to move up)

MW - Frank Glover (club/7) (18-18) UD8 Tom Barry (UR) (8-2-1) (barry at pre, glover at post in this club fight ... auto aging moved glover to end but I moved him back due to an 8-2 record in his last 10 .... according to LBA rules 6 wins in the last 10 fights allows a fighter to stay at post or end 2 times then they have to move ... glover also moves back to main with the win)

mh2365 · 02-28-2006, 08:37 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 12, 1910

Al Delmont (WBA) (21-8-2) scored a KO12 over Frankie Neil (14/22) (20-19-3) to revenge his last loss, but it wasn't easy.

Once again Neil's style caused all sorts of problems for Delmont and Neil may have been on his way to another upset win until he took a wicked uppercut in the 12th.

The fight was very close with neither fighter winning 3 rounds in a row. The referee started helping out Delmont early in the fight warning Neil at every turn. He finally took a point away in the 10th and the 11th.

Delmont took a nasty cut under his left eye in the 11th and then came on to finish the fight in the 12th.

I had it 104-103 Delmont. The judges had it a SD for Delmont at the stoppage but Delmont was ahead only by the two foul points.

The loss drops Neil too far down in the rankings for a rubber match but if he gets a couple of wins we could see the 3rd bout.

On the undercard

BW - Harry Tenney (21/13) (15-6-2) TKO5 Tom Cassiday (UR/26) (10-2-3) (cassiday at pre)

HW - John Knifton (60/52) (19-18-1) UD10 William Schiller (85/85) (13-9)

LH - Morris Harris (34/27) (13-13) TKO8 John Flood (23/28) (9-11-2)

LH - Athur McLaglen (UR) (10-2) UD8 Louis Lester (club) (4-9-2) (both at pre for this club fight ... mclaglen goes to main with 10th win, Lester stays in club and now must even out his record in order to go to main)

MW - Harry Lewis (club) (9-16-1) UD8 James Payne (UR) (8-6) (payne at pre, Lewis stepped up to MW for this club fight)

mh2365 · 03-01-2006, 11:45 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

June 14, 1910

FLY - Jack Foy (7/6) (8-6-3) UD10 Jim Donald (3/7) (8-7-1) 99-91 (WBA eliminator ... both at pre)

MW - Hugo Kelly (35/32) (18-15-1) KO8 Frank Fields (21/29) (10-5-1) (fields at pre)

LW - Tommy Murphy (52/39) (12-13-3) TKO10 Barney Donovan (20/42) (20-20-2) 87-85 (donovan at post)

LW - Tommy Connolly (57/47) (12-8) DQ7 George McFadden (31/43) (11-11-2) (connolly stepped up from FW for this win)

MW - Joe Chip (UR) (9-0) KO3 Harry Peppers (UR) (6-3-4) 19-19 (both at pre for this club fight ... Chip's 8th KO including 7 straight)

WW - Billy Gardner (club) (10-19-3) TKO10 Mike Sullivan (club) (16-18-4) (both at post for this club fight ... Sullivan drops to end, he is 6-4 over his last 10 which would have qualified him to stay at post but they have to also win the fight where they drop, so Sullivan in effect becomes my first auto post to end fighter)

02-19-2006, 06:30 PM	#1141
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Erne defends his title easily I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. May 22, 1910 Frank Erne (CH) (19-5-2) scored a UD15 over Austin Gibbons (10/14) (22-18-3) to retain both the WBA and WBC Lightweight titles. It was a easy and boring fight as there were no knockdowns or cuts. Erne dominated the fight from the opening bell. I had it 147-139. Markus Heinsohn, ringside expert, spent most of the fight chatting up the ringcard girls and decided the fight was very close, giving Erne the slight nod at 143-142. The official judges scored it 146-139/146-140/147-139. In my game this seems to be a trend when Markus is the ringside expert, is he programmed to be blind? On the undercard BW - Owen Moran (8/8) (27-6-6) UD10 Tommy Doherty (33/34) (9-8-1) (Doherty at pre) LH - Jack O'Brien (2/1) (25-5-1) UD10 Rough Thompson (18/20) (11-6) (thompson at pre) BW - Cockney Cohen (40/36) (9-7-3) UD10 Billy James (34/37) (9-7-3) (james at pre) MW - Jake Ahearn (UR) (9-0) UD8 James Payne (UR) (8-5) 79-75 (both at pre for this club fight) BW - Johnny Reagan (club) (5-19-4) UD8 Harry Dally (UR) (9-4-1) (dally at pre for this club fight)

02-21-2006, 06:19 AM	#1147
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Herrera shuts down newcomer I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. May 30, 1910 Aurelio Herrera (11/10) (19-8) scored a KO6 over prospect Willie Ritchie (18/20) (13-3-2) (ritchie at pre). Herrera jumped on Ritchie in the first round dropping him for a 6 count. Ritchie made a nice comeback taking the next two rounds but then Herrera's power shots started landing and it was obvious Ritchie was in over his head. In the 4th and 5th rounds, Herrera outscored Ritchie 49-8 on points, and then mid-way through the 6th Herrera dropped him for good to win the bout. I had it 48-46 at the stoppage. On the undercard HW - Sam Langford (9/9) (24-6-1) KO4 Al Kubiak (30/43) (10-6) (kubiak at pre) LW - Jacob Hyams (UR) (9-3) MD10 Jack Grace (52/54) (7-11) (both at pre) HW - Peter Courtney (43/38) (14-4-1) SD10 Hank Griffin (42/46) (18-9-2) (courtney at pre ... good win) HW - J. Black (UR/22) (11-4) SD10 Oliver Williams (62/69) (10-8-3) (black at pre) FLY - Bill Ladbury (UR) (6-0-2) KO2 Jack McDermott (UR) (6-7) 10-9 Ladbury (both at pre for this club fight)

02-21-2006, 06:34 AM	#1148
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of May 1910 One of the three title bouts this month saw a huge upset as Alec Greggains defeated Jack Butler for the WBA Lightheavyweight title. The other two bouts saw the champs defend their titles as Charles McCoy and Frank Erne both had relatively easy wins. Movements (all club to main unless noted) HW - Jack Langley (6-7-2), Johnny Woods (18-18-3) (new rank 41), Jack McCormick (10-4) LH - Thomas Sayers (10-1-3), Al Kauffman (12-12) (new rank 9), Joe Craig (5-10-1) (down to club) WW - Unk Russell (10-2-1) LW - Jack Lynch (10-2), Jig Stone (10-0), Paddy Smith (7-6-2) FW - Kid Landfield (12-12-2) (new rank 7), Buck Leary (5-8-2), Danny McBride 10-1-1) BW - Joe Bertrand (10-2-3), Frankie Burns (10-2-1), Jack Ward (10-2), Jack Lyman (8-6-1), Steve Flanagan (10-1) FLY - Tommy Lewis (10-2-3), Charley Harvey (9-2-4), Jim Donald (8-6-1) Debut Rankings HW - Jack Langley (6-7-2) 32 HW - Jack Downey (10-2-3) 48 HW - J. Black (11-4) 22 LW - Paddy Smith (7-6-2) 44 LW - Hughie Mehegan (11-4) 33 LW - Jack Hopper (12-3) 24 FW - Charles Lampey (10-3-2) 25 FW - Buck Leary (5-8-2) 28 BW - Jimmy Gorman (14-1) 14 BW - Elias Hamilton (9-6) 22 BW - George Wright (13-3) BW - Joe Bertrand (10-2-3) 15 BW - Jack Lyman (8-6-1) 24 FLY - Joe McGrath (11-2-2) 2 FLY - Tommy Lewis (7-5-3) 4 FLY - Charley Harvey (9-2-4) 5 FLY - Jim Donald (8-6-1) 3

02-21-2006, 10:38 AM	#1149
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	WBA Flyweight tourney Random seedings since they haven't been fighting each other too much June first round bouts Jack Foy (7-6-3) vs. Jim Donald (8-6-1) Joe McGrath (11-2-2) vs. Tommy Lewis (7-5-3) July first round bouts Sid Simth (10-5-2) vs. Kid Murphy (16-4-2) Johnny Hughes (12-2-5) vs Charley Harvey (9-2-4)

02-22-2006, 05:37 AM	#1150
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Beginners for June 1910 64 out of the 134 beginners were in action this month against the TC's and they went 51-8-5. moving up to club HW - James Burke (7-0), Young Sailor Burke (8-0), Tom Carter (4-3), Billy Clark (7-1), James Couper (6-1-1), Jim Holland (1-7) , Andy Morris (7-1), John Morrissey (7-1) LH - Tom Cowler (4-1), Dave Smith (8-0) MW - Young Mitchell (8-0) WW - Eddie Shevlin (7-0-1) LW - Johnny Allen (7-0-1), Knockout Brown (7-0), George Decker (4-3-1), William Parker (7-0-1), Art Simms (7-0), George Taylor (7-1), Eddie Wallace (5-1-2) FW - Mississippi (8-0), Eddie O'Keefe (7-0-1)

02-20-2006, 05:06 AM	#1142
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. May 24, 1910 BW - Terry McGovern (22/8) (32-7-4) KO10 Dave Sullivan (6/9) (15-3-1) 87-84 (Sullivan at pre ... close fight through 6, then McGovern took over) LH - John Wille (14/11) (13-5) TKO4 Jack Sullivan (19-19-1) (13/20) (wille at pre) MW - Billy Baker (10/8) (20-16-4) UD10 Jerry Jerome (22/26) (13-4) (jerome at pre) LW - Young Donahue (43/37) (11-5-2) SD10 Tim Callahan (46/47) (10-6-1) (both at pre) LW - Joe Gregg (UR) (8-1-1) MD8 Mark Higgins (UR) (3-6-2) (both at pre for this club fight) FLY - Jim Donald (UR/3) (8-6-1) SD8 Charley Harvey (UR/5) (9-2-4) (both at pre, both move to the main division) ** note ** That gives me 8 ranked fighters in FLY so I will start a tourney next month for the first champ. Since they haven't had too many fights under the new system and they tend to fight out of weight class alot, it will be a randomly selected tourney.

02-21-2006, 05:26 AM	#1145
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. May 26, 1910 LH - George Byers (4/3) (14-7-1) UD10 Al Weinig (3/5) (13-11-1) 97-91 (WBC eliminator, title bout now set for July between Byers and Donaldson) LW - Kid McPartland (15/13) (18-16-4) UD10 Leach Cross (33/39) (10-11-1) (mcpartland has won 6 of 7) LH - Georges Carpentier (UR) (13-1) TKO7 Jack Beauscholte (36/36) (8-11-2) (carpentier at pre) FW - Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan (66/46) (13-15-4) UD10 Johnny Crowe (13/48) (11-4-1) (sullivan at post, crowe at pre - sullivan got 240.9 pp for this win, which got him back in the positives) HW - Jack McCormick (UR) (10-4) TKO6 Mike Brennan (club) (15-20) (mccormick at pre, brennan at post for this club fight.... mccormick moves to main with the win) HW - Charles Cooley (club) (8-12-2) MD10 Tug Wilson (club) (13-21-1) (wilson at end, cooley stepped up to HW for this club fight)

02-21-2006, 05:52 AM	#1146
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. May 28, 1910 WW - Kyle Whitney (10/7) (16-4-3) UD10 Kid Graves (7/10) (16-4-2) 98-93 BW - Johnny Murphy (4/4) (16-1-1) KO7 Dave Ross (23/23) (9-6-1) (ross at pre) MW - Jim Griffin (40/39) (12-7) UD10 Jack Moffat (11-12-1) (34/40) HW - Jimmy Elliot (68/67) (26-7-3) TKO3 Stockings Conroy (73/77) (8-7-3) LH - Pat McCourt (18/14) (9-6-2) UD10 Ralph Calloway (34/35) (7-9-2) 95-95 (both at pre, Mccourt down and cut but still won) LW - Jimmy Britt (club) (10-15-4) MD8 Paddy Smith (UR/44) (7-6-2) (britt at post, smith at pre for this club fight ... smith moves to main)

02-23-2006, 05:17 AM	#1151
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Main vs TC's June 1910 184 out of the 455 main division fighters are in action this month with 60 of those fighting TC's. They went 54-6 against them.

02-23-2006, 05:25 AM	#1152
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	June 1910 title fights Six total fights with a couple of good ones and a couple of stiffs. HW - (WBA/C) Joe Jeannette (21-0) vs Sam Langford (9) (24-6-1) (first meeting) MW - (WBA) Frank Klaus (17-6-1) vs Jimmy Handler (3) (11-10-3) (first meeting) WW - (WBA/C) Joe Gans (30-4-3) vs Terry Martin (4) (17-2-1) (first meeting) FW - (WBA) Jimmy Briggs (14-10-5) vs Eddie Pierce (16) (10-5-1) (pierce at pre, Briggs gets a bit of a gimme in his first defense, first meeting) BW - (WBC) Johnny Coulon (22-3-2) vs Johnny Murphy (4) (16-1-1) (first meeting) BW - (WBA) Al Delmont (20-8-2) vs Frankie Neil (12) (20-18-3) (lost title to Neil last meeting by UD15)

02-27-2006, 05:12 AM	#1153
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	club vs TC's June 1910 102 out of 270 club fighters in action this month with 50 of them facing TC's. They went 37-9-4 against them. On to the June fight cards

02-27-2006, 12:32 PM	#1154
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 1, 1910 Hw - John C. Heenan (10/4) (24-8-1) SD10 Larry Foley (2/8) (24-8-3) (98-94 Heenan) HW - Joe Goss (12/11) (20-5-2) UD10 Paddy Ryan (71/75) (9-13-2) MW - Jack Burke (34/31) (21-15-6) TD6 Jack Bonner (25/32) (19-18-1) (48-46 Burke) (bonner at post) WW - Arthur Evernden (UR/15) (13-2) KO10 Jack Goodman (27/28) (10-6-3) (both at pre for this fight) HW - Enos Phillips (UR) (7-6-1) TD5 Jem Roche (UR) (3-4-3) (both at pre for this club fight) HW - Charles Cooley (club) (9-12-2) UD10 Joe Lannon (club) (17-22) (lannon at post, Cooley stepped up to HW for this club fight)

02-27-2006, 01:00 PM	#1155
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Klaus has easy defense I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 3, 1910 Frank Klaus (CH) (18-6-1) scored an easy TKO10 over Jimmy Handler (3/5) (11-11-3) for his 3rd defense of the WBA Middleweight Title. This was also the 30th WBA Middleweight Title fight, the first belt to reach 30 in the LBA. Klaus dominated this fight from the opening bell, hitting Handler at will. Handler was obviously overmatched but kept coming forward trying to land on big shot. Handler caught Klaus enough to probably win the 6th and 7th rounds but was exhausted by the end of the 8th. Handler started carrying his hands low and Klaus hit him repeatedly throughout the 9th. Handler went down early in the 10th and again a minute later. He gamely got to his feet but the ref had seen enough. I had it 88-84 at the stoppage. On the undercard MW - Joe Thomas (28/24) (14-5-3) UD10 Dave Kurtz (24/28) (6-7-3) (kurtz at pre) WW - Wildcat Ferns (8/4) (15-4) KO6 Frank Burke (UR) (9-2) (both at pre for this fight) LW - Young Donahue (40/38) (12-5-2) DRAW10 Jack Hopper (25/25) (12-4) (96-94 Donahue) (both at pre) HW - Charley Miller (UR) (6-2-1) UD8 Charley Robinson (UR) (6-4) (both at pre for this club fight) LH - Charley Stevenson (club) (10-11) KO7 SP Stockton (club) (16-19-2) (stockton at post for this club fight)

02-28-2006, 04:48 AM	#1156
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 5, 1910 Worst fight card I've had ... didn't watch a single fight, no fighter ranked higher than 22. Sometimes the draw power is too high or I think in this case I had too many fight cards this month. MW - George Rooke (22/18) (19-16-1) KO8 Charley Johnson (39/42) (9-12-2) LW - Battling Nelson (32/28) (22-15-1) TKO7 Dave Wallace (22/29) (10-7) (wallace at pre) LW - Jimmy Carroll (39/33) (18-14-5) TKO10 Mike Leonard (41/45) (12-5-3) (leonard at pre) FW - Martin Flaherty (68/62) (9-11-3) UD10 Jimmy Dime (37/64) (12-6) (dime at pre) LH - Tom Parks (UR) (6-7-1) UD8 Jack Stewart (club) (10-18-4) (parks at pre, stewart at end for this club fight) MW - Tommy Cleary (UR) (9-4-1) UD8 Young Billy Manning (UR) (7-6) (both at pre for this club fight)

02-28-2006, 10:42 AM	#1157
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 7th, 1910 WW - Charley Hitte (14/11) (18-11) KO8 Dick Nelson (24/27) (12-6) 66-66 at stoppage (nelson at pre, good fight Hitte had a cut re-opened twice so the fight could've been stopped at anytime) FW - Will Curley (18/11) (15-7-3) UD10 Sammy Kelly (34/45) (11-10-1) BW - Joe Bertrand (15/11) (11-2-3) TKO5 George Church (UR) (10-1-1) 39-37 Church at stoppage (both at pre ... Church tore something in his shoulder in the 5th and couldn't continue ... huge win for Bertrand, won't post this in the upset thread (5 over a 9) because of it being a fluke win) HW - Tom Lees (63/47) (22-16) TKO9 Jack Burns (27/42) (15-8-1) (Lees does have 1 more pp than Burns but I think there must be a variable built in so different titles have different rankings as I see this every now and then. WBC has Lees at 35 and Burns at 45) MW - Harris Martin (17/14) (21-16-5) UD10 Billy Kramer (19/24) (10-6) (Kramer at pre) LH - Dan Dwyer (club/9) (17-17-1) KO3 JH Brown (club) (15-17-3) (both at post for this club fight, Dwyer moves back to main with the win)

02-28-2006, 12:44 PM	#1158
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Briggs has it easy in first defense I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 9, 1910 Jimmy Briggs (CH) (15-10-5) lost his first title defense back in 1904 after upsetting Abe Attell. This time he scored a KO10 over Eddie Pierce (17/20) (10-6-3) (pierce at pre) after upsetting Jem Driscoll to make his first title defense. This was sort of a gimme for Briggs to celebrate his coming all the way back from the Club ranks to win the title again. He deserved one easy bout. This was very easy as I had it 89-82 at the time of the KO with him only losting the 3rd round and that one was close. He battered Pierce most of the fight finally putting him down and out in the 10th. He holds both the WBA and the WBC titles but this one was only sanctioned by the WBA. I would expect a tougher defense next time out. On the undercard FW - Eugene Hornbacher (65/61) (11-7-1) TKO9 Frank Zimpher (53/62) (9-7) (both at pre) BW - Jack Madden (UR/12) (13-2) MD10 Jimmy Dunn (19/25) (9-5-3) (both at pre) HW - Mike Conley (34/30) (12-4) DQ10 Jim Harvey (84/87) (9-8-1) 87-87 at stoppage(both at pre, Harvey warned 3 times before DQ) HW - Ned Cheeley (UR) (7-0-3) UD8 Jem Smith (UR) (9-3-1) 78-75 (both at pre in this club fight, Smith misses out on a chance to move up) MW - Frank Glover (club/7) (18-18) UD8 Tom Barry (UR) (8-2-1) (barry at pre, glover at post in this club fight ... auto aging moved glover to end but I moved him back due to an 8-2 record in his last 10 .... according to LBA rules 6 wins in the last 10 fights allows a fighter to stay at post or end 2 times then they have to move ... glover also moves back to main with the win)

02-28-2006, 08:37 PM	#1159
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Delmont handles Neil in the rematch I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 12, 1910 Al Delmont (WBA) (21-8-2) scored a KO12 over Frankie Neil (14/22) (20-19-3) to revenge his last loss, but it wasn't easy. Once again Neil's style caused all sorts of problems for Delmont and Neil may have been on his way to another upset win until he took a wicked uppercut in the 12th. The fight was very close with neither fighter winning 3 rounds in a row. The referee started helping out Delmont early in the fight warning Neil at every turn. He finally took a point away in the 10th and the 11th. Delmont took a nasty cut under his left eye in the 11th and then came on to finish the fight in the 12th. I had it 104-103 Delmont. The judges had it a SD for Delmont at the stoppage but Delmont was ahead only by the two foul points. The loss drops Neil too far down in the rankings for a rubber match but if he gets a couple of wins we could see the 3rd bout. On the undercard BW - Harry Tenney (21/13) (15-6-2) TKO5 Tom Cassiday (UR/26) (10-2-3) (cassiday at pre) HW - John Knifton (60/52) (19-18-1) UD10 William Schiller (85/85) (13-9) LH - Morris Harris (34/27) (13-13) TKO8 John Flood (23/28) (9-11-2) LH - Athur McLaglen (UR) (10-2) UD8 Louis Lester (club) (4-9-2) (both at pre for this club fight ... mclaglen goes to main with 10th win, Lester stays in club and now must even out his record in order to go to main) MW - Harry Lewis (club) (9-16-1) UD8 James Payne (UR) (8-6) (payne at pre, Lewis stepped up to MW for this club fight)

03-01-2006, 11:45 AM	#1160
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. June 14, 1910 FLY - Jack Foy (7/6) (8-6-3) UD10 Jim Donald (3/7) (8-7-1) 99-91 (WBA eliminator ... both at pre) MW - Hugo Kelly (35/32) (18-15-1) KO8 Frank Fields (21/29) (10-5-1) (fields at pre) LW - Tommy Murphy (52/39) (12-13-3) TKO10 Barney Donovan (20/42) (20-20-2) 87-85 (donovan at post) LW - Tommy Connolly (57/47) (12-8) DQ7 George McFadden (31/43) (11-11-2) (connolly stepped up from FW for this win) MW - Joe Chip (UR) (9-0) KO3 Harry Peppers (UR) (6-3-4) 19-19 (both at pre for this club fight ... Chip's 8th KO including 7 straight) WW - Billy Gardner (club) (10-19-3) TKO10 Mike Sullivan (club) (16-18-4) (both at post for this club fight ... Sullivan drops to end, he is 6-4 over his last 10 which would have qualified him to stay at post but they have to also win the fight where they drop, so Sullivan in effect becomes my first auto post to end fighter)