New HW Boxers Rated

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by Rocco Del Sesto

Ok, without going out of the thread, I see your post Chris plus my earlier ones, but if I leave this and go to the TBCB General Discussions thread and then come back into the HW boxers thread, none of that is there until I do another post?

I didn't change anything as far as I know?

Rocco

Looks like a job for Andreas, I would send him a note. I think that they upgraded the software and may have changed hosts since the big crash. Lots of chances for odd things to occur.

Christopher

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Looks like a job for Andreas, I would send him a note. I think that they upgraded the software and may have changed hosts since the big crash. Lots of chances for odd things to occur.

Christopher

Everything is showing up now Chris.

Mystery......

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Antonio Crosia
Italy Rating 3 HW 1954-59

15 wins / 6 losses / 1 draw / 1 KO

Hometown: Piacenze, Italy
Birthplace: San Giorgio

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Defeated Aldo Pellegrini in a 12 round decision in Feb 1956 for the vacant Italian HW title. Lost that title to Uber Bacilieri in August that same year in another 12 round decision. Crosia fought Bacilieri in a rematch a year later for the Italian HW Title with Bacilieri taking another 12 round decision over Crosia.

Other fights in Crosia's career included a win and a 4 round NC with Giannino Luise, a 2nd round win over Pellegrini in 1954 when Pellegrini was DQ'd, won two decisions over Gianbattista Alfonsetti, won an earlier 8 round decision over Bacilieri before thier title fights, and won a 10 round decision over Robert Eugene. Crosia also lost fights to Joe Erskine and fought a draw with Robert Duquesne. He finished his career with three straight losses, first the decision to Bacilieri in their 2nd title fight and then was stopped in 5 rounds each by Bruno Scarabellin and Ulli Nitzschke.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Aldo Pellegrini
Italy Rating 1 HW 1952-59
22 wins / 7 losses / 1 draw / 18 KO

Hometown: La Spezia, Italy

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Lost a 12 round decision to Antonio Crosia in Feb 1956 for the Italian HW Title.

Other fights in Pellegrini's career included a 2nd round DQ loss to Robert Warmbrunn and an 8 round decision win over Warmbrunn, a 5 round no contest called against Uber Bacilieri, a 5th round DQ loss to Ingemar Johansson(8-0 at the time) in March 1955. He manage wins against Heinz Seelisch (18-24-9,12), Ansell Baba Adams, and Jean Serres but lost fights to Kurt Schiegl, Joe Bygraves and Werner Walloschek.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Jean Serres
Luxembourg Rating 1 HW 1950-56

In looking through BoxRec for guys who've fought in various titles, I ran across this Jean Serres whom I saw fought quite a few guys who I already had in the DB. Upon starting to rate him I realized then that I already had him in the DB rated by David Myers. Not sure how long ago that was. I decided to load him up into a schedule to see how he performed. Quite well David! I tweeked only a couple things. I lowered his HP to 0 and upped his Chin numbers one each. That seemed to pull the number of times he was stopped in a fight (11) in a bit better and got his knockdowns to around 1 or 2 every 27 bouts simmed. Otherwise a darn nice rating by David. I've added a bit of bio info with the attached file.

6 wins / 16 losses / 4 draws / 1 KO

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Rated by David Myers (Tweeked just a little by Rocco)

Defeated Ray Schmit in October 1953 for the Luxemburgian LHW Title in a 12 round decision. Serres' only other win of note was an 8 round decision over Robert Warmbrunn. Serres' weak chin(11 times stopped) accounted for his lack of success against more seasoned fighters. His losses mounted up against Robert Eugene, Willi Hoepner, Ansell Baba Adams, Jo Weidin, Gunther Nurnberg, Willi Besmanoff, Jose Peyre, Charles Colin, Peter Bates, Franco Cavicchi, Fernando Jannilli, Dick Richardson and Aldo Pellegrini. He did manage a draw with Hugo Salfeld and twice fought draws with Young Al Bernard.

[SAL]

Thanks for the new fighters Rocco. Glad to see you posting fighters again even if you can't see them
Scot

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by SAL

Thanks for the new fighters Rocco. Glad to see you posting fighters again even if you can't see them
Scot

Glad your enjoying the fighters Scot! Thanks for all that you do!!

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Ray Schmit Rating 2
Light Heavyweight, Luxembourgh
10 wins / 13 losses / 2 draws / 3 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Lost a 12 round decision to Jean Serres in October 1953 for the Luxemburgian LHW Title.

Other fights of note in Schmit's career included wins over Heinz Motzelt, Heinz Sachs(29-19-11,15KO) twice, and Pedro Klyssens. He lost fights to Willi Hoepner three times, Hans Stretz, Willi Besmanoff, Charles Colin, Randy Turpin, and Horst Niche between 1951 and March 1956. After defeating Klyssens in March 1956 Schmit then did not fight until October 1957 when he was KO'd in the 2nd by Gilbert Chapron. Four months later Schmit fought for the last time loosing a 10 round decision to Horst Niche.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Heinz Sachs Rating 3
Light Heavyweight, Germany
29 wins / 19 losses / 11 draws / 15 KO

Hometown: Krefeld, Germany
Birthplace: Dresden, Germany

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Sachs started his career with 13 straight victories before loosing an 8 round decision to Rudi Pepper in May 1950. After an 8 round draw with fellow German LHW Paul Schirmann, Sachs lost consecutive 8 round decisions to Americans Ken Stribling (who once was KO'd by Jake LaMotta) and Lloyd Marshall.

A couple months after the Marshall loss, Sachs defeated Richard Vogt via 4th round KO to win the German LHW Title. Vogt and Sachs fought a 12 round draw rematch the following March. After loosing an 8 round decision to Renato Tontini in April 1951, Sachs fought another 12 round draw, this time to Hans Strelecki for Sachs' LHW crown, in May of that year. About 2 months later in early July 1951, Sachs lost his crown when he was KO'd in the 3rd round by Willi Hoepner. Sachs twice more, in 1952 and 1954 fought Hoepner for the German LHW title loosing both times via 12 round decision and 2nd round KO.

Sachs' many fights between late 1951 and 1956 included wins over Don Ellis twice and Johnny Barton. He fought draws with Stephane Olek, Ray Schmit, Don Ellis twice, Willi Besmanoff and Franz Szuzina. The losses against the tougher competition piled up. He dropped fights to Szuzina, Ellis twice, Hoepner twice in the title fights, Gianbattista Alfonsetti, Wim Snoek three times, Ray Schmit twice, Charles Colin, Willi Besmanoff and Willi Schagen.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Hans Strelecki Rating 1
Light Heavyweight Germany
25 wins / 22 losses / 8 draws / 7 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Strelecki was stopped 18 times in his 22 losses. He fought Heinz Sachs to a 12 round draw in May 1951 in an attempt to take Sachs German LHW Title.

His career started with a win and loss against Carl Schmidt. He then won against Conny Rux. Both of those wins came about with Schmidt and Rux being DQ'd. He then lost to Rudi Pepper, drew 6 rounds with Heinz Neuhaus, and lost to Peter Mueller and twice to Heinz Sachs. He then strung 7 consecutive wins against the bottom of barrel lot before taking on Lloyd Marshall and Don Lee in late 1950. Strelecki managed a draw against Marshall and an 8 round decision over Lee.

That set up his LHW title fight against Sachs. Sachs fought 7 more years without another chance at any title. Getting stopped 15 times probably didn't help convince anyone to give him a shot. Hans did manage wins over Don Ellis and Stephane Olek and draws with Ellis, Hans Friedrich, Willi Besmanoff and Cesare Bagnoli while loosing fights to Gerhard Hecht, Willi Hoepner, Jimmy King, Friedrich, Johnny Barton, Leen Jansen twice, Charles Colin. In June and July 1956 he gave a young new German fighter by the name of Albert Westphal his 2nd and 3rd career fights. Strelecki managed to decision Westphal in thier first fight in 4 rounds then was stopped in the 4th round by TKO by Albert in the second meeting.

Strelecki managed to string 4 wins after that then lost his last 5 career fights all by KO or TKO to Ottavio Panunzi. Westphal, Jacques Bro and then twice to a Tony Gruber.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Heinz Seelisch Rating 1
Heavyweight Germany 1947-56
18 wins / 24 losses / 9 draws / 12 KO

Hometown: Kiel, Germany
Birthplace: Berlin, Germany

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Seelisch started out 15-1-6,11KO's. He defeated Robert Warmbrunn a couple times very early on,lost a 10 round decision to Richard Grupe, won a decision over Herbert Runge and after an 8 round draw against Conny Rux in March 1949, he fought Hein ten Hoff to a 10 round standoff in May 1949 for the German Heavyweight Title. After 3 more wins and a couple more draws,one a 10 rounder with Grupe, Seelisch then fought Heinz Neuhaus in consecutive fights in June and August 1950. Neuhaus defeated Seelisch in an 8 and 10 round decisions. It was the beginning of the nosedive of Seelisch's career going 3-23-3,1KO over the remaining 6 years.

After the Neuhaus losses and another 10 round decision loss to Gene (Tiger) Jones, Seelisch managed to bracket a couple wins around a 10 round loss to Conny Rux in late 1950, early 1951. He won only one time after that. Losses and piled up including to Aaron Wilson, Richard Vogt, Gunther Nurnberg twice, Tiger Jones and Rux again, Wilson Kohlbrecher, Kurt Schiegl, Werner Wiegand, Karel Sys, Franco Cavicchi three times, Aldo Pellegrini, Marcel Limage, Hans Friedrich and finally Hans Kalbfell.

[Cap]

German HW Hans Strelcki (should be Strelecki. The file name will have to be changed.)

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by Cap

German HW Hans Strelcki (should be Strelecki. The file name will have to be changed.)

Nice photo Cap!

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Richard Grupe Rating 3
Heavyweight German 1946-52
26 wins / 8 losses / 6 draws / 20 KO

Hometown/Birthplace: Hamburg, Germany

RAting by; Rocco Del Sesto

Was stopped in the 3rd round of a 12 round bout with Hein ten Hoff in May 1947 for the German Heavyweight Title.

Other fights of note in Grupe's career included wins over Werner Vollmer twice, Rudi Wagener, Herbert Runge twice, Heinz Seelisch, Willi Muller, Robert Warmbrunn twice, Paco Bueno and Al Hoosman. He fought draws with Runge twice, Seelisch twice adn Wilson Kohlbrecher.

Grube lost fights to ten Hoff, Wilson Kohlbrecher, Heinze Neuhaus, Elkins Brothers, Werner Wiegand, Gene Jones, and Hans Friedrich.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Ottavio Panunzi Rating 2
Italy Light Heavyweight 1957-63
21 wins / 12 losses / 0 draws / 10 KO

Hometown: Rome, Italy

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Never fought for any title but in 6 year career battled a good number of names you'll recognize. Panunzi won fights against Hans Strelecki, Cesare Bagnoli, Erwin Hack, Hans Gunter Huber twice, Alex Buxton, Johnny Halafihi, Moussa Sangaree.

He lost fights against Huber, Santo Amonti(4-0 early in his career), Domenico Baccheschi, Plinio Scarabellin, Artenio Calzavara, Germinal Ballarin and then lastly in succession in his last five fights, Freddy Mack, Piero Del Papa, Guerrino Scattolin, Rudolf Nehring and Renato Moraes whom he also lost to just before his last career victory against Sangaree.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Renato Moraes Rating 4
Brazil Light Heavyweight 1961-68
20 wins / 14 losses / 4 draws / 12 KO

Birthplace: Sao Paolo, Brazil

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Moraes fought middle to top competition throughout his career. He started out with a 10 round decision win over Hugo Medina(24-8-4) then lost a 12 round decision in his very next fight against Hiram Campos for the Bazilian LHW Title. Campos won his next 2 fights to Hugo Medina and then lost 3 of his last 4 career fight. Renato meanwhile went on to win 19 more fights but never again fought for a title.

Renato compiled a 19-6-2 record in the first five years. Besides the Medina win, other victories were over Ottavio Panunzi twice, Giulio Rinaldi, Helmut Ball, Federico Friso, Johnny Halafihi, Mariano Echevarria, Jack Bodell, Moussa Sangaree, Albert Duscha, Alfredo Vogrig twice, Johnny Otto, Johnny Ould, and Carl Gizzi. He fought draws with Vogrig, French middleweight Michel Diouf(43-32-6,20KO), and Giulio Saraudi. He fought Freddy Mack to a 7 round no contest when the bout was halted and called a no contest. Disgusted fans littered the ring with debris.

In that same time span he lost fights to Freddy Mack, Johnny Halafihi, Piero Del Papa, Jose Angel Manzur(31-33-14,13KO) who held the Argentinian LHW Title a couple years previous to fighting Moraes.

After defeating Carl Gizzi in early September 1966 things started going south for Moraes. Two weeks after winning the 8 round decision over Gizzi, Renato lost a 10 round decision to Jack Bodell. It was the start of a 1-8-2 skid over the remainder of his career. Other losses were to Luis Folledo, Nino Benvenuti, Billy Gray, Johnny Persol, Jurgen Blin, Miguel Angel Paez and Ramon Avenamar Peralta. He managed draws with Ray Patterson and Benito Canal. His only win was a 10 round decision over Mariano Echevarria in May 1967. A dissappointing end to what had been a pretty decent career going.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Benito Michelon Rating 1
Italy Light Heavyweight 1962-69
11 wins / 5 losses / 0 draws / 6 KO

Birthplace: Padova, Italy

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Michelon won his first 9 bouts, 6 by stoppages. Included were a 10 round decision over Guerrino Scattolin and an 8 round decision over Johnny Halafihi.

In August 1964 he fought Piero Del Papa for the Italian LHW Title. Del Papa stopped him TKO in the 11th round. AFter a 10 round decision win over Bob Nicholson a couple months later he fought Del Papa again in December of that year for the ITalian crown. This time Michelon won a shocking win of sorts, taking a 12 round decision over the previously undefeated Del Papa (25-0-3).

Michelon never defended his crown. He fought only twice in 1965 loosing by TKO to Jose Humberto Menno (23-21-7) and Vittorio Saraudi. Almost a year later in March 1966 he lost to Saraudi again, this time by 4th round KO. After that Michelon retired from the ring, at least until May 1969 when he staged an unsuccessful 1 fight come back, loosing 3rd round TKO to Rudiger Schmidtke.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Giovanni Biancardi Rating 4
Italy Light Heavyweight 1962-71
29 wins / 2 losses / 0 draws / 14 KO

Birthplace: Pavia, Italy

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Giovanni won his first 27 fights, 13 by KO. Of those 27 fights all but 3 in Milan and 1 in Copenhagen, Denmark, were fought in his home town of Pavia,Italy. The first 17 wins were against some pretty bad fighters, a lot of them middleweights with pretty bad career records. They included Giovanni Ferrario(2-14-1), Charley Kassem(2-26-0), Gino Rossi(14-35-3), Jorge Fiordelmondo(3-20-2), Mario Della Corte(3-19-6), Marc Desforneaux(1-42-5), Ali Amrane(0-29-1), and Gianfranco Giannini(7-26-3).

After 3-1/2 years of laboring against the "talent", Biancardi started to get some competition. He won a 2 round affair against Alfredo Vogrig in Jan 1966 when Vogrig was DQ'd. Over the next couple years he then won fights against Gerry Hassett, Guerrino Scattolin, Victor Chapelle, Lloyd Walford, Sonny Moore and finally in May 1968, Dave Barber to run his record to 27-0-0.

In October 1968, Biancardi then got a shot at the Italian LHW Title against Vittorio Saraudi. Saraudi stopped Biancardi in the 6th round. After that Biancardi did not fight for almost a year. He fought and won one fight each in June 1969 and Feb 1970, then in January 1971 he fought for the last time when Lothar Stengel TKO'd him in the first round in Berlin, Germany only the 2nd time Biancardi fought outside of Italy, let alone Pavia.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Guerrino Scattolin Rating 5
Italy Light Heavyweight 1960-72
20 wins / 14 losses / 2 draws / 10 KO

Birthplace: Marcon, Italy

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Scattolin won his first 3 fights including a 5th round TKO of Hans Gunter Huber(7-36-4,5KO). Then in March 1961 Scattolin faced Piero Del Papa who was 3-0 also in his early career. Del Papa out pointed Scattolin in 6 rounds. Scattolin then won 10 of his next 11 bouts, including an 8 round decision over Ottavio Panunzi(21-12-0,10KO) and after a 6 round draw with Manfred Lessmann, Scattolin then fought Del Papa in June 1963 for the Italian LHW Title. Del Papa was 19-0-2 at the time. The fight was stopped in the 11th round because of rain and declared a no contest. They fought again in September, 3 months later, this time Del Papa winning a 12 round decision.

After a win when his opponent was DQ'd in the 4th round a month after the loss to Del Papa, Scattolin then lost his next four bouts to Benito Michelon, Klaus Peter Gumpert, Vittorio Saraudi and Alfredo Vogrig. After a draw with Vogrig and a meaningless win, Scattolin then lost a 10 round decision to an undefeated (21-0-0) Giovanni Biancardi in June 1966. He fought twice more in 1966 knocking out Adriano Rosati(22-16-4,10KO) and loosing a decision to Lothar Stengel.

Six months after fighting no one after the loss to Stengel, Scattolin was giving another shot at the Italian LHW Title, in 1967, this time against Vittorio Saraudi. It was another 12 round decision loss for Scattolin. After that Scattolin fought only twice in 1968 defeating Cosimo Bruno and Flavio Mazzoni(9-1-0,6KO), and then lost an 8 round decision to Chris Finnegan in October 1970 after two years of inactivity in the ring. In March 1971 he lost a 10 round decision to Conny Velensek.

In September 1971 Scattolin fought one last time for the Italian LHW Title, this time against Domenico Adinolfi. Again another 12 round loss for Scattolin. Five months later a 7th round KO to Kosie Smith sent Scattoln into retirement.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Hans Gunter Huber Rating 1
Germany Light Heavyweight 1953-62
7 wins / 36 losses / 4 draws / 5 KO

Birthplace: Freiburg, Germany

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

This guy kept showing up in the records of other fighters I'd been rating so I decided to do him. Huber and his glass jaw (stopped 21 times in 36 losses) was easy fodder for many of his opponents very early in thier careers looking to pick up easy wins.

After a 4th round KO ov a Werner Munch(0-9-0) to start his career, Huber then lost 8 straight including to Horst Niche, Antonio Crosia, Cesare Bagnoli, Marcel Limage, Heinz Sachs, Charles Colin, and Uwe Janssen. Huber finally picked up win number 2 with a 6th round KO of Lorenzo Rocci. Rocci then outpointed Huber in a rematch and the two fought a 3rd straight fight that ended in an 8 round draw. Then came 9 straight losses, including to Wim Snoek, Erwin Hack twice, Franco Festucci, Horst Niche, and Erich Schoppner.

Francois Kania then became Huber's 3rd victim by a 10th round KO in April 1957. Huber was KO'd in 3 in his next fight by Massimo Zanaboni making his boxing debute, then Huber won his 4th fight knocking out Ottavio Panunzi in the 5th round. Panunzi stopped Huber in a rematch in September 1957 and that was followed by losses to Gilbert Chapron, Tony Gruber and a Klaus Langhammer. Huber then beat a guy named Poldi Bauer(0-4-0) twice for wins 5 and 6. His next fight in November 1958 he lost a 4 round decision to Karl Mildenberger who was taking on Huber for his second opponent.

After a draw to a Wenzel Bociek, Huber lost to Plinio Scarabellin and Bociek. He then fought a 4 round draw and won a 3rd round KO against a couple of guys who'd never fought before. That was followed by losses to Nico Schoenmaker and Germinal Ballarin, a draw with an H Zollner who had no record and then Huber finished out his career with 8 straight losses. The losses incluced to Wladislas Kopec, Ottavio Panunzi, Guerrino Scattolin and Piero Tomasoni(4-0 at the time).