2006 Oakland A's Thread - Page 51

Faroo6 · 05-24-2006, 12:01 AM

Could Macha use any more pitchers in a game they're losing by 6 runs late?

I mean, really, why the hell do you bring in Flores for a second straight day and essentially kill both of your lefties for tomorrow.

Why do you use 4 relievers in a blowout? WHHHHY?

mikev · 05-24-2006, 12:04 AM

Five.

He ran Karsay out there too.

JDOldSchool · 05-24-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Man, we suck. Hopefully we'll be at only 3 games under .500 by the end of the week.

The team consists of minor leaguers and backups right now. Don't worry about it.

edog23 · 05-24-2006, 01:23 AM

The more I watch the A's on tv, the more I wonder why Beane brought Macha back. It looks to me that sometimes he has no idea how to manage that team. Plus, would any of this be happening if Peterson was still the pitching coach?

mikev · 05-24-2006, 01:29 AM

Beane brought Macha back because he's a puppet.

Unfortunately, the only things that Macha REALLY controls (lineups and pitching changes) he manages to screw up. It's really frustrating.

JDOldSchool · 05-24-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Unfortunately, the only things that Macha REALLY controls (lineups and pitching changes) he manages to screw up. It's really frustrating.

And at this point, there's not much he can do with the lineups. When half the team is hurt any given day and half the team is struggling, what's a guy to do?

I hope that when things stablize in a month or so he can find a lineup and stick with it.

mikev · 05-24-2006, 03:27 PM

Even so, there's absolutely no need for Kotsay to hit 3rd. Ellis too. I went to the Friday night game against the Giants and was absoutely beside myself when the lineup was announced. I think I scared some of the Giants fans around.

I *have* to believe that Macha has access to the same stats that I do. Probably even more. Even a simple look at the yahoo.com situational stats (watch for limited sample size, but still) shows that Kotsay has a .900 OPS this year hitting leadoff, and Ellis is at .631. Time to move Ellis down until he starts hitting again, no? Kendall is putting up a pretty crappy OPS no matter what, but he's getting on base. He needs to be at the bottom of the order too, though, because he's a friggin GIDP machine. Chavez is a monster from the 3rd spot this year. PUT HIM THERE UNTIL HE STOPS HITTING.

Now I know this sounds crazy, but Crosby is 4-10 hitting 4th. Frank Thomas is putting up an .880 OPS hitting 5th. SWITCH THEM.

Kotsay
Swisher
Chavez
Crosby
Thomas
Johnson
Payton
Ellis
Kendall

Leave it like that until everybody gets healthy, then think about changing.

JDOldSchool · 05-24-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Even so, there's absolutely no need for Kotsay to hit 3rd. Ellis too. I went to the Friday night game against the Giants and was absoutely beside myself when the lineup was announced. I think I scared some of the Giants fans around.

I *have* to believe that Macha has access to the same stats that I do. Probably even more. Even a simple look at the yahoo.com situational stats (watch for limited sample size, but still) shows that Kotsay has a .900 OPS this year hitting leadoff, and Ellis is at .631. Time to move Ellis down until he starts hitting again, no? Kendall is putting up a pretty crappy OPS no matter what, but he's getting on base. He needs to be at the bottom of the order too, though, because he's a friggin GIDP machine. Chavez is a monster from the 3rd spot this year. PUT HIM THERE UNTIL HE STOPS HITTING.

Now I know this sounds crazy, but Crosby is 4-10 hitting 4th. Frank Thomas is putting up an .880 OPS hitting 5th. SWITCH THEM.

Kotsay
Swisher
Chavez
Crosby
Thomas
Johnson
Payton
Ellis
Kendall

Leave it like that until everybody gets healthy, then think about changing.

Sorry, man, but your logic is tragically flawed in a few places. One in regarding Kendall. You don't want him hitting 9th. You want him hitting 1st. He's basically a singles hitter, so he's not driving in anybody. He's also, as you said, a double-play machine. Yep, lead-off for the guy with the second-best OBP on the team. Now, if he reverts to the Jason Kendall that played for the A's last year, move him to 9th in a heartbeast.

I don't want Crosby higher than 7th until he can get his OBP above .300. He's one of the main guys killing the offense right now.

I like Chavez third. I like Swisher second, but I wonder if maybe those two should be bumped down a spot in favor of Kendall and Kotsay. Kendall, Kotsay, Swisher, Chavez, Thomas looks good. Maybe throw Ellis behind Thomas because Crosby sure as hell shouldn't be there. All I know is that as long as Johnson, Payton, Kielty, etc. are in this lineup regularly it's a total headache to try and come up with a good lineup. I hope Daric Barton will be ready soon.

Green & Gold Heart · 05-24-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

I hope Daric Barton will be ready soon.

Not so fast...

http://www.insidebayarea.com/athletics/ci_3858913

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Top-hitting prospect Daric Barton left Monday's game at Triple-A Sacramento with a hyperextended elbow and will see a doctor today.

Rizon · 05-24-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Not so fast...

http://www.insidebayarea.com/athletics/ci_3858913

WTF. Who ISN'T hurt?

JDOldSchool · 05-24-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Not so fast...

http://www.insidebayarea.com/athletics/ci_3858913

I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I say!

He wasn't actually hitting for power anyway. I don't want them to rush him, but, like, get him healthy and in the majors soon.

Green & Gold Heart · 05-25-2006, 12:46 AM

Wow, not a peep during game time. Not that it mattered. Just another loss in the books. I didn't watch it.

Green & Gold Heart · 05-25-2006, 12:54 PM

Ugh. Barton's injury will have him out for awhile:

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Meanwhile, top prospect Daric Barton, Sacramento's first baseman, will miss six to eight weeks after fracturing the radial head of his left elbow in a game against Iowa on Tuesday.

Link

I guess now if they decide to send Johnson down, it'd be in favor an outfielder and Swisher would play first base. I'm guessing that won't happen though. There's also the matter of Milton Bradley coming back someday.

mikev · 05-25-2006, 02:42 PM

This team makes me want to cry right now.

Or puke.

Not sure which, really.

JDOldSchool · 05-25-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

There's also the matter of Milton Bradley coming back someday.

Yeah, shouldn't Bradley be back by now? They can bring him back, send down Johnson, and this team immediately gets a lot better offensively. And defensively, actually.

I still don't think there's any reason to worry. The A's clearly have much more, and more superior talent to anybody else in the division. The season isn't even 1/3 of the way through yet.

Is Harden ever going to pitch again?

mikev · 05-25-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Yeah, shouldn't Bradley be back by now? They can bring him back, send down Johnson, and this team immediately gets a lot better offensively. And defensively, actually.

I still don't think there's any reason to worry. The A's clearly have much more, and more superior talent to anybody else in the division. The season isn't even 1/3 of the way through yet.

Is Harden ever going to pitch again?

Supposedly threw off a mound and was okay, expects to be on a minor league rehab assignment within a week or 2.

Bradley isn't even swinging a bat yet

Green & Gold Heart · 05-25-2006, 08:05 PM

Ellis
Kotsay
Crosby
Chavez
Thomas
Swisher
Melhuse
Kielty
Johnson

:siiiiigh:
Not much to say about this. Let's just avoid six in a row, please.

mirrf · 05-25-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by San Francisco Chronicle

With a left-hander on the mound, Dan Johnson was on the bench Wednesday, but despite his continued struggles, Johnson will be back in the lineup tonight, according to A's manager Ken Macha. Macha liked Johnson's extra batting practice Tuesday, as well as his results in a simulated game against Esteban Loaiza.

Which batter *didn't* Macha like in a simulated game against Loaiza? A monkey with a 2x4 could slap a single against him.

-Edit
OK, I admit it. I just like to type the word "monkey". Monkey! monkey! monkey!

Green & Gold Heart · 05-25-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mirrf

OK, I admit it. I just like to type the word "monkey". Monkey! monkey! monkey!

You better watch it. We don't like monkeys around here.

JDOldSchool · 05-25-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

You better watch it. We don't like monkeys around here.

As long as they're not bringing stupid baseball teams back from deficits, I'm cool with monkeys.

So, um, I walked out of the room as Barajas was coming to bad, furious that Macha was leaving him in. I walk back in to see fireworks. I walk back out of the room to tell my dad some Rangers fan just won $25,000.

Sonic should send Macha a bill for that.

05-24-2006, 12:04 AM	#1002
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Five. He ran Karsay out there too. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

05-24-2006, 01:29 AM	#1005
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Beane brought Macha back because he's a puppet. Unfortunately, the only things that Macha REALLY controls (lineups and pitching changes) he manages to screw up. It's really frustrating. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

05-24-2006, 03:27 PM	#1007
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	Even so, there's absolutely no need for Kotsay to hit 3rd. Ellis too. I went to the Friday night game against the Giants and was absoutely beside myself when the lineup was announced. I think I scared some of the Giants fans around. I have to believe that Macha has access to the same stats that I do. Probably even more. Even a simple look at the yahoo.com situational stats (watch for limited sample size, but still) shows that Kotsay has a .900 OPS this year hitting leadoff, and Ellis is at .631. Time to move Ellis down until he starts hitting again, no? Kendall is putting up a pretty crappy OPS no matter what, but he's getting on base. He needs to be at the bottom of the order too, though, because he's a friggin GIDP machine. Chavez is a monster from the 3rd spot this year. PUT HIM THERE UNTIL HE STOPS HITTING. Now I know this sounds crazy, but Crosby is 4-10 hitting 4th. Frank Thomas is putting up an .880 OPS hitting 5th. SWITCH THEM. Kotsay Swisher Chavez Crosby Thomas Johnson Payton Ellis Kendall Leave it like that until everybody gets healthy, then think about changing. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

05-25-2006, 02:42 PM	#1014
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	This team makes me want to cry right now. Or puke. Not sure which, really. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

05-24-2006, 01:23 AM	#1004
edog23 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Rosa, CA. Posts: 493	The more I watch the A's on tv, the more I wonder why Beane brought Macha back. It looks to me that sometimes he has no idea how to manage that team. Plus, would any of this be happening if Peterson was still the pitching coach?

05-25-2006, 12:46 AM	#1012
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Wow, not a peep during game time. Not that it mattered. Just another loss in the books. I didn't watch it.

05-25-2006, 08:05 PM	#1017
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Ellis Kotsay Crosby Chavez Thomas Swisher Melhuse Kielty Johnson :siiiiigh: Not much to say about this. Let's just avoid six in a row, please.