+++ OOTP 6.5 Expansion Pack announced! +++ - Page 5

BigCity · 05-26-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

I think in this day of Online Leagues, making people pay for updates is a horrible idea.

No one is forcing anyone to upgrade here. Each league, as always, makes its own choices based on the enhancements of the new version/patch/expansion. OOTPD cant' be held responsible for those choices - and suggesting that providing new enhancements should be delayed based on those decisions is not a good business decision.

I would suggest stating your opinion of the expansion pack to your league, not OOTPD.

JoeRockEHF · 05-26-2005, 11:32 AM

Wow! Great news!! I can't wait, great job Markus!

Edit -- Just seen that logo for OOTP 6.5, I like it!

D Love · 05-26-2005, 11:35 AM

Hmm... OOTP: SI is pushed back by 6 months... OOTP6.5 is suddenly released...

I'm not saying it's not worth $10, which it may be, but let's call it for what it is- SI is afraid of losing some interest in OOTP (I know the diehards will stick with it, but you will lose the fringe fans (who I assume are more plentiful than the true hardcores)) and so they got Markus to come out with a "new" OOTP in order to bridge the gap from May 2004 to March 2006. I think that's kinda obvious.

Otherwise, with 2 years gone by without any movement, SI might have a stale franchise that it would need to re jumpstart.

Nice marketing on SI's part. Kudos for them also getting off their high horse and just releasing OOTP7 in the Spring, like any sane company would do.

BigCity · 05-26-2005, 11:35 AM

By the way Joe, I love your new logo - where did you get it made?

Tribe Fan 24 · 05-26-2005, 11:35 AM

Hey,
We shouldn't have to argue about the expansion pack. After all....if you don't want to buy it...DON'T and if you do then DO! No one is forced to do anything! I think personally that there is a lot of positives attributed to the new expansion pack. The positives outweigh the negatives (at least they do to me.) Lets all enjoy this product no matter which version you run.

Kev

mad0die · 05-26-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCity

As an outsider, my first impression is that V6.5 is much more of an "expansion" than a "patch". As I commented above, this deserved the V7 tagname in my opinion - many more "additions" than "fixes".

How does an "outsider" get an advance copy to make a certainly biased preview?

JoeRockEHF · 05-26-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCity

By the way Joe, I love your new logo - where did you get it made?

The OOTP6 logo on the front page of the Download Center? If that's the one you're talking about our one and only Cuss did that one. I didn't like the OOTP6 logo so I had asked him to see what he could come up with.

rem · 05-26-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mad0die

How does an "outsider" get an advance copy to make a certainly biased preview?

He's a beta tester. Although, he must be getting some leeway with his NDA.

UngratefulDead · 05-26-2005, 11:41 AM

Totally misread who you were referring to. Damn similar avatars.

BigCity · 05-26-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mad0die

How does an "outsider" get an advance copy to make a certainly biased preview?

I have to assume by your comment you don't agree with my "biased" viewpoint. For the record, I'm a Beta tester - have been for 3 years now. However, the fact that I am has nothing to do with my opinions on the game. Is it that hard to imagine that someone might feel like I do without attributing it to "getting something" for it?

treedom · 05-26-2005, 11:44 AM

The only part of this whole thing that doesn't sit well with me is that expansion packs usually have fancy names (Play the World, Rise of Rome, etc.). This one seems to simply be named ".5" which is kinda uninspired, imho.

mad0die · 05-26-2005, 11:46 AM

Just saying that a good "review" is from someone who is not affiliated with the software company or development / testing process in any way. I'd just prefer you label your forthcoming comments as accurately as possible.

What happens with the new bugs invariably introduced in 6.5? Now Markus has to decide between working on v7 and fixing v6.5? Which do you think gets priority?

Incidentally, I don't have a problem with the $10.

BigCity · 05-26-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

He's a beta tester. Although, he must be getting some leeway with his NDA.

Just for the record, my "preview" will be my personal opinons on the same facts published in the announcement on the OOTPD website. "Testing" and any details concerning such will have to wait until the release date. The "advantage" I will have is being able to posts my opinions of those tests the day it's released.

Anachronism · 05-26-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCity

No one is forcing anyone to upgrade here. Each league, as always, makes its own choices based on the enhancements of the new version/patch/expansion. OOTPD cant' be held responsible for those choices - and suggesting that providing new enhancements should be delayed based on those decisions is not a good business decision.

I would suggest stating your opinion of the expansion pack to your league, not OOTPD.

Exactly... was going to say the exact same thing myself. With these changes to 6 being made, I can see my league probably pushing 7 off for a year or two once it is released - we already love 6 far beyond 5, and with these tweaks we'll pretty much be in the "butter zone" for awhile.

Besides... we are talking $10 here.... $10. Sheesh...

BigCity · 05-26-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mad0die

Just saying that a good "review" is from someone who is not affiliated with the software company or development / testing process in any way. I'd just prefer you label your forthcoming comments as accurately as possible.

What happens with the new bugs invariably introduced in 6.5? Now Markus has to decide between working on v7 and fixing v6.5? Which do you think gets priority?

Incidentally, I don't have a problem with the $10.

Then I would suggest waiting for a review from GameSpy, or any of the many other resources. I have always felt I was fair in any opinion of the game - always basing my comments on what "I" wanted to see, which is the same thing everyone does in their own way.

If there is a bug in 6.5 that is in need of a fix, I would expect Markus to at least address it. If, on the other hand, I saw it as minor, I would be ok with letting it go in favor of staying on time with OOTPBM.

andjbock · 05-26-2005, 11:55 AM

I'm going to tear into this when it is released. I just wish I hadn't spent all kinds of time creating a new league last week. Oh well.

Makes me wonder if Skydog's settings will conflict with the game.

CalvinHobbes · 05-26-2005, 11:56 AM

I'm disappointed that version 7 is being pushed back to March, although it is a MUCH more reasonable time to realease a baseball game. Having said that I am absolutely looking forward to this upgrade and hope it will keep me content until March when I can play games pitch by pitch.

andjbock · 05-26-2005, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCity

No one is forcing anyone to upgrade here. Each league, as always, makes its own choices based on the enhancements of the new version/patch/expansion. OOTPD cant' be held responsible for those choices - and suggesting that providing new enhancements should be delayed based on those decisions is not a good business decision.

I would suggest stating your opinion of the expansion pack to your league, not OOTPD.

Trust me I'll be forcing everyone in my league to get.

D Love · 05-26-2005, 11:57 AM

Surprised no one has mentioned H2H yet...

spleen1015 · 05-26-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by D Love

Surprised no one has mentioned H2H yet...

I hoped no one would metion it.

05-26-2005, 11:32 AM	#82
JoeRockEHF All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 933	Wow! Great news!! I can't wait, great job Markus! Edit -- Just seen that logo for OOTP 6.5, I like it! __________________ PSN: JoeRockEHF Last edited by JoeRockEHF; 05-26-2005 at 11:34 AM.

05-26-2005, 11:35 AM	#85
Tribe Fan 24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 675	Take it Easy Guys Hey, We shouldn't have to argue about the expansion pack. After all....if you don't want to buy it...DON'T and if you do then DO! No one is forced to do anything! I think personally that there is a lot of positives attributed to the new expansion pack. The positives outweigh the negatives (at least they do to me.) Lets all enjoy this product no matter which version you run. Kev __________________ Long Suffering Tribe Fan Proud Papa of Caroline Grace (b. 2005) Kaeden Michael (b. 2008) and Claire Elise (b. 2012)

05-26-2005, 11:41 AM	#89
UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	Totally misread who you were referring to. Damn similar avatars. Last edited by UngratefulDead; 05-26-2005 at 11:43 AM.

05-26-2005, 11:44 AM	#91
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	The only part of this whole thing that doesn't sit well with me is that expansion packs usually have fancy names (Play the World, Rise of Rome, etc.). This one seems to simply be named ".5" which is kinda uninspired, imho. __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

05-26-2005, 11:46 AM	#92
mad0die All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: TX Posts: 913	Just saying that a good "review" is from someone who is not affiliated with the software company or development / testing process in any way. I'd just prefer you label your forthcoming comments as accurately as possible. What happens with the new bugs invariably introduced in 6.5? Now Markus has to decide between working on v7 and fixing v6.5? Which do you think gets priority? Incidentally, I don't have a problem with the $10. __________________ Commish GUBA

05-26-2005, 11:35 AM	#83
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	Hmm... OOTP: SI is pushed back by 6 months... OOTP6.5 is suddenly released... I'm not saying it's not worth $10, which it may be, but let's call it for what it is- SI is afraid of losing some interest in OOTP (I know the diehards will stick with it, but you will lose the fringe fans (who I assume are more plentiful than the true hardcores)) and so they got Markus to come out with a "new" OOTP in order to bridge the gap from May 2004 to March 2006. I think that's kinda obvious. Otherwise, with 2 years gone by without any movement, SI might have a stale franchise that it would need to re jumpstart. Nice marketing on SI's part. Kudos for them also getting off their high horse and just releasing OOTP7 in the Spring, like any sane company would do.

05-26-2005, 11:35 AM	#84
BigCity All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Shore, Great Lakes Posts: 1,386	By the way Joe, I love your new logo - where did you get it made?

05-26-2005, 11:55 AM	#96
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,640	I'm going to tear into this when it is released. I just wish I hadn't spent all kinds of time creating a new league last week. Oh well. Makes me wonder if Skydog's settings will conflict with the game.

05-26-2005, 11:56 AM	#97
CalvinHobbes Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Calgary Posts: 424	I'm disappointed that version 7 is being pushed back to March, although it is a MUCH more reasonable time to realease a baseball game. Having said that I am absolutely looking forward to this upgrade and hope it will keep me content until March when I can play games pitch by pitch.

05-26-2005, 11:57 AM	#99
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 904	Surprised no one has mentioned H2H yet...