Dan's Campaign for a GM - Page 5

professor ape · 03-13-2005, 12:02 PM

Put in another vote for this system. I would really love to be able to look at the game in more of an owner's role. I need a strong GM, strong manager (which is also missing), and a great supporting staff. I want to sit in the owner's box and just pull the strings.

Dan Theman · 03-21-2005, 11:43 PM

Thank you all for keeping this going while I've been "out." It's very much appreciated.

cknox0723 · 03-22-2005, 01:31 AM

Great to see you back, Dan!

P.S. I like GM's.

You'll Thank Me Later · 03-25-2005, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by professor ape

Put in another vote for this system. I would really love to be able to look at the game in more of an owner's role. I need a strong GM, strong manager (which is also missing), and a great supporting staff. I want to sit in the owner's box and just pull the strings.

I'd like this ability too.

jdw · 03-26-2005, 05:56 PM

Of course I support this.

Championship/Football Manager has much of this.

Managers get sacked, and you as a Manager can throw your hat in the ring for the job.

Managers have different tendencies, styles and judgement on talent.

Early on your rep might not be good enough to get a big coaching job, but after some success you could get it.

Managers retire and get replaced in the "pool" by former players.

Lack of different tendencies among AI managers and GMs, and the movement of those managers and GMs among teams, is a weakness in OOTP.

Championship/Football Manager also has a very good news feature for tracking things like this, and letting you see various managers being on the ropes with their current side.

I don't know how many players of CM/FM there are on these boards... but the game long has had a lot of features that would make for massive leaps forward in baseball management games. It's worth game designers time to play the game and try to figure out similar features that would work in a baseball game.

John

LoDo · 04-12-2005, 04:10 AM

Awesome idea, DanistheMan!

Malleus Dei · 04-29-2005, 01:44 AM

/bump for a great idea.

dkpiatt · 05-05-2005, 04:37 AM

I have been using ootp since 3.2 and read the boards all the time but never wanted to get caught up with the wish lists and posting, because I always assume it has been said before. However, I will break my silence to say that this idea is what the game has been missing all these years. I have always felt that their should be a GM role in OOTP, but I never could simplify the role the way that Dan did. I think that out of all the "I wish that Marcus would do this or that" Dan identifies the problem and provides a realistic way to make it work. I hope this helps.

notareus · 05-14-2005, 12:40 PM

I agree and also it would be nice if we saw more former players show up as coaches, managers, scouts and managers after they retire.

MizzouRah · 05-14-2005, 10:46 PM

Great thread.. and exactly where I think the direction this sim should go in.

Todd

CubsLose · 05-17-2005, 08:24 AM

I don't know how I've missed this thread. Great ideas, one and all.

DavidWatts · 05-20-2005, 12:58 PM

Dan, great idea. This would definately add personality to solo leagues. I like to play out all my teams games and enjoy the duties of team manager more than the duties of GM. In fact, I always let the computer controll baserunning, if you think about it, a coach not the manager decides to wave the runner in or hold him. I would love to have the challange of attempting to become a successful manager with a computer controlled GM. This would make the game so much more like real life---for example, your managing the Detroit Tigers and your team sucks but you really like this kid Catalanato (spelling?). You think Justin Thompson has a great future and just know the Cordero kid you have in the minors is going to be the next big closer in the game. The next thing you know they are all gone and you have Juan Gonzalez. Remember when the Yankees forced Ruben Sierra on Joe Torre?

Again Dan great Idea.

RANGER11JP · 06-01-2005, 06:32 PM

The GM idea is great! I would love to see it extended to where computor controlled (or even human controlled) can hire a Team Manager. Retired team members might have an edge in getting the job. We might even see George S. - Billy M hire & fire repetition. (Just like some of the repetitive roster moves I've come to love in OOTP6.) It certainly would add some kind of depth to what happens in a league.

-JP

BasicGuy · 06-12-2005, 01:23 PM

I really hope this Is being added to V7....Great Idea

mauboy · 12-05-2005, 11:54 PM

bump...

I haven't looked too much into the newest version, but will we be able to do this now? Or how about just be a manager on a team where you don't control what your team gets in the off season through the draft and free agency?

G-Ballz · 02-20-2006, 11:30 PM

Does anyone know if the development team has seriously considered this idea? I'd love to know if it ever evolved beyond more than some discussion and many, many endorsements.

For the record, I would LOVE to see this GM feature with all the glory specified in the previous postings.

Malleus Dei · 02-20-2006, 11:46 PM

It would be great.

05-05-2005, 04:37 AM	#88
dkpiatt Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NH Posts: 9	I have been using ootp since 3.2 and read the boards all the time but never wanted to get caught up with the wish lists and posting, because I always assume it has been said before. However, I will break my silence to say that this idea is what the game has been missing all these years. I have always felt that their should be a GM role in OOTP, but I never could simplify the role the way that Dan did. I think that out of all the "I wish that Marcus would do this or that" Dan identifies the problem and provides a realistic way to make it work. I hope this helps. __________________ "If I was being paid thirty-thousand dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400." - Ted Williams

05-14-2005, 12:40 PM	#89
notareus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Somewhere in Red Sox Nation: "Baseball is Life; the rest are just details" Posts: 132	I agree and also it would be nice if we saw more former players show up as coaches, managers, scouts and managers after they retire. __________________ Member, Red Sox Nation

06-01-2005, 06:32 PM	#93
RANGER11JP All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,373	GM and TEAM MANAGER The GM idea is great! I would love to see it extended to where computor controlled (or even human controlled) can hire a Team Manager. Retired team members might have an edge in getting the job. We might even see George S. - Billy M hire & fire repetition. (Just like some of the repetitive roster moves I've come to love in OOTP6.) It certainly would add some kind of depth to what happens in a league. -JP

02-20-2006, 11:30 PM	#96
G-Ballz Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: near Chicago ..... GO CUBS! Posts: 29	Does anyone know if the development team has seriously considered this idea? I'd love to know if it ever evolved beyond more than some discussion and many, many endorsements. For the record, I would LOVE to see this GM feature with all the glory specified in the previous postings. __________________ I'm the drummer in a band ... Hear the tunes at: http://www.facingwinter.com (We're an acoustic-rock trio based near Chicago) Say hello on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/facingwinter Long live OOTP Baseball!

03-13-2005, 12:02 PM	#81
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	Put in another vote for this system. I would really love to be able to look at the game in more of an owner's role. I need a strong GM, strong manager (which is also missing), and a great supporting staff. I want to sit in the owner's box and just pull the strings.

03-26-2005, 05:56 PM	#85
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Of course I support this. Championship/Football Manager has much of this. Managers get sacked, and you as a Manager can throw your hat in the ring for the job. Managers have different tendencies, styles and judgement on talent. Early on your rep might not be good enough to get a big coaching job, but after some success you could get it. Managers retire and get replaced in the "pool" by former players. Lack of different tendencies among AI managers and GMs, and the movement of those managers and GMs among teams, is a weakness in OOTP. Championship/Football Manager also has a very good news feature for tracking things like this, and letting you see various managers being on the ropes with their current side. I don't know how many players of CM/FM there are on these boards... but the game long has had a lot of features that would make for massive leaps forward in baseball management games. It's worth game designers time to play the game and try to figure out similar features that would work in a baseball game. John

04-12-2005, 04:10 AM	#86
LoDo Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 68	Awesome idea, DanistheMan!

05-14-2005, 10:46 PM	#90
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	Great thread.. and exactly where I think the direction this sim should go in. Todd

05-17-2005, 08:24 AM	#91
CubsLose Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 87	I don't know how I've missed this thread. Great ideas, one and all.

05-20-2005, 12:58 PM	#92
DavidWatts Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Shreveport Posts: 51 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Dan, great idea. This would definately add personality to solo leagues. I like to play out all my teams games and enjoy the duties of team manager more than the duties of GM. In fact, I always let the computer controll baserunning, if you think about it, a coach not the manager decides to wave the runner in or hold him. I would love to have the challange of attempting to become a successful manager with a computer controlled GM. This would make the game so much more like real life---for example, your managing the Detroit Tigers and your team sucks but you really like this kid Catalanato (spelling?). You think Justin Thompson has a great future and just know the Cordero kid you have in the minors is going to be the next big closer in the game. The next thing you know they are all gone and you have Juan Gonzalez. Remember when the Yankees forced Ruben Sierra on Joe Torre? Again Dan great Idea.

06-12-2005, 01:23 PM	#94
BasicGuy Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ND Posts: 478	I really hope this Is being added to V7....Great Idea

12-05-2005, 11:54 PM	#95
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	bump... I haven't looked too much into the newest version, but will we be able to do this now? Or how about just be a manager on a team where you don't control what your team gets in the off season through the draft and free agency?