CubbyFan23's MLB 2006 Rosters Underway - Page 5

ChampMan · 12-29-2005, 08:44 PM

This is from a scout on Elvis and Salty

Elvis Andrus " ... Elvis ranks as highly as anyone I have followed in 20 years of doing this, especially for a 17-year-old. His instincts cannot be taught, and his power is budding even though he is far from full maturity. He has an even keel and absolutely loves the game. In a few years, Braves fans may ask, "Rafael who?"

Jarrod Saltalamacchia " ... Salty is not overrated. How many switch-hitting catchers with solid defensive skills and above-average power come along in today's game? Not many. The only thing that could prevent Salty from taking the same path as McCann is the presence of McCann in Atlanta."

ChampMan · 12-29-2005, 08:48 PM

Also Salty had 19 HRs and 35 Doubles in less than 500 abs at Myrtle Beach one of the biggest pitching parks in all of the Minors so no I dont think 35 to 40 HRs is a stretch for this 6'5 230 pound beast

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChampMan

This is from a scout on Elvis and Salty

Elvis Andrus " ... Elvis ranks as highly as anyone I have followed in 20 years of doing this, especially for a 17-year-old. His instincts cannot be taught, and his power is budding even though he is far from full maturity. He has an even keel and absolutely loves the game. In a few years, Braves fans may ask, "Rafael who?"

Jarrod Saltalamacchia " ... Salty is not overrated. How many switch-hitting catchers with solid defensive skills and above-average power come along in today's game? Not many. The only thing that could prevent Salty from taking the same path as McCann is the presence of McCann in Atlanta."

Salty is a four-star spect in my set, with 68 power. Note the scout says: above average power and solid defensive skills (70 defense)... not sure how to justify rating him any higher. Especially since he's behind the plate, I would be very hesitant to rate ANY catcher with 40 HR power, let alone a guy that a scout says has above average power and not overwhelming.

Andrus is very hard to project, so as 4.5 star prospect I'd say he's pretty good for now.

I love arguing these types of things though, helps me learn more about the players.

ChampMan · 12-29-2005, 08:58 PM

Yes it all depends on who you talk to on both guys, but I have seen Salty play and he is the real deal and when he hits them they gooooo no b ig deal we all have opinions thats what makes this fun, as for Elvis the Braves have not rated a kid this young so high since Andruw, time will tell I cant wait until you are done I have been waiting for A SET like this all winter

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 09:02 PM

I agree, debating this type of stuff is my favorite part of the whole thing.

mntwinsfan · 12-29-2005, 09:36 PM

Pedro liriano and scott baker were both dominate in the big league's.. you have them rated way to low. Baker should be 7 accross the board. Liriano should be 8's or higher.

If you ask anyone on Liriano I think you will agree with me.

Mauer is way to low. He hit 300 last year. good contact and gap hitter. he needs to be raised..

thanks Jason

ChampMan · 12-29-2005, 09:50 PM

He hasnt done the AL prospects

CD1083 · 12-29-2005, 10:24 PM

Is Brandon McCarthy considered a prospect?

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase Davis

Is Brandon McCarthy considered a prospect?

Not really, he's sitting in Single-A and I'm not sure why. His ratings should put him in the bullpen or in AAA at the least. I'll take a look at that.

atlbraves · 12-30-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkupe

A selection of my many thoughts:

Hermida should probably be higher, as he's likely one of the top 5 (at least) prospects in the game. He's one of the three most likely prospects IMO to draw 100+ walks in a given season (along with Arizona's Conor Jackson and Carlos Quentin).

Ian Stewart is an interesting call, I would've had him at about 65 contact, 75 home run power, 75 plate discipline, 40-45 avoiding Ks. His range should be considerably higher, as he projects to be above-average (approaching GG-caliber) defensively. No Alex Gordon?

I think most will disagree with your judgement of Brandon Wood. I don't think he'll be much above average as a contact hitter, but he has tremendous raw power. Plate discipline is questionable, although we'll see how he plays at a level that he hasn't spent several months annihilating already.

As for pitchers, Francisco Liriano is a rather glaring omission. Rogers is closer to 90/55/70 at this point, with current control in the single digits. Volstad has pretty nasty stuff and is more like a 75-80 there talent-wise.

Lots of pretty solid work here. If you don't follow the minors that much it's difficult to get a good feel for things, but for the most part you're not doing too badly.

I agree with the Hermida part. Jeremy should def. be rated higher than he should in this set. Many scouts have him top 5 for this year's prospects and hes basically an all around player with great power, contact, and some speed. Hermida should at least be better than Hanley.

Cubbyfan, where do you get your scouting report?

12-30-2005, 07:37 AM

Can't wait till you do anything Rangers related

lefty15401 · 12-30-2005, 07:45 AM

Cubbies, Rosters looking great so far...Is it possible for you to give a timeline of when your work may be complete. I am not trying to rush you or anything like that, I would just like to have some sort of time frame to let my owners no...Like maybe a 1-2 week breakdown? Thanks for your work again..Garrett

General · 12-30-2005, 09:49 AM

This is that optimistic Braves fan Slyder was talking about.

My apologies, for I was unable to post any sooner due to this silly activation mode.

Anyhoot, my whole point on Andrus and Salty Dog was that their potentials were low; not necessarily their actual ratings.

Derek4jc · 12-30-2005, 12:19 PM

Am I the only one who can't access each individual player on the page and just get an error message?

General · 12-30-2005, 02:04 PM

Nah, that's for everyone.

This Is Not Here · 12-30-2005, 03:53 PM

Unless I missed it somewhere...when will the league file itself be up and available for a download?

CubbyFan23 · 12-30-2005, 07:58 PM

I only have Toronto, Texas, Washington still to do!

After that, I just have to get service time fixed, which won't take long, and then make sure I have everything polished up before I release them. LATE tonight at the earliest, if I don't spend too long at my friend's house, late tomorrow afternoon / early Sunday afternoon at the latest.

Everything should be done in this first release, outside of REALLY in-depth minor leagues (which I'm going to work on for the second release, before January 17) as well as pretty in-depth AL prospects (although I'm going to do my best to make sure they're all right)

Get pumped!

OfficerTC · 12-30-2005, 08:47 PM

I noticed the ratings weren't very high all over the place (A high 60s contact hitter is actually good in this file I guess).

My question is this.... You're a Cubs fan, yet Ted Lilly is better than Mark Prior!?

CubbyFan23 · 12-30-2005, 09:06 PM

Yeah, I might go through and universally bump some ratings. Apologies, I used to make BBPro roster sets, and I'm very used to the mid 50s, 60s CH ratings, and such.

I'm going to run a test right now on these, and see how they look.

pseudofool · 12-30-2005, 11:08 PM

Curious how you do the ratings, are they statistically based only? Do you distinction between current rating abilities and talent abilities for young MLBers? Also, as word of advice, try not to make current minor prospects talent ratings any better than current stars...in many of these roster sets, we end up with many prospects putting up Pujols and Johan Santana type numbers within a few simmed seasons. Use current major league ratings as bar. Players like Pujols and Santana are once in generation type players, try not make a ton of them, that absolutely water down the roster set. Thanks for the work.

12-29-2005, 08:44 PM	#81
ChampMan Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Melbourne,FL Posts: 363	This is from a scout on Elvis and Salty Elvis Andrus " ... Elvis ranks as highly as anyone I have followed in 20 years of doing this, especially for a 17-year-old. His instincts cannot be taught, and his power is budding even though he is far from full maturity. He has an even keel and absolutely loves the game. In a few years, Braves fans may ask, "Rafael who?" Jarrod Saltalamacchia " ... Salty is not overrated. How many switch-hitting catchers with solid defensive skills and above-average power come along in today's game? Not many. The only thing that could prevent Salty from taking the same path as McCann is the presence of McCann in Atlanta." __________________ http://burrowsleague.com/BLBWeb.html

12-29-2005, 08:48 PM	#82
ChampMan Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Melbourne,FL Posts: 363	Also Salty had 19 HRs and 35 Doubles in less than 500 abs at Myrtle Beach one of the biggest pitching parks in all of the Minors so no I dont think 35 to 40 HRs is a stretch for this 6'5 230 pound beast __________________ http://burrowsleague.com/BLBWeb.html

12-29-2005, 08:58 PM	#84
ChampMan Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Melbourne,FL Posts: 363	Yes it all depends on who you talk to on both guys, but I have seen Salty play and he is the real deal and when he hits them they gooooo no b ig deal we all have opinions thats what makes this fun, as for Elvis the Braves have not rated a kid this young so high since Andruw, time will tell I cant wait until you are done I have been waiting for A SET like this all winter __________________ http://burrowsleague.com/BLBWeb.html

12-29-2005, 09:36 PM	#86
mntwinsfan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 41	minnesota twins need to be fixed Pedro liriano and scott baker were both dominate in the big league's.. you have them rated way to low. Baker should be 7 accross the board. Liriano should be 8's or higher. If you ask anyone on Liriano I think you will agree with me. Mauer is way to low. He hit 300 last year. good contact and gap hitter. he needs to be raised.. thanks Jason

12-29-2005, 09:50 PM	#87
ChampMan Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Melbourne,FL Posts: 363	He hasnt done the AL prospects __________________ http://burrowsleague.com/BLBWeb.html

12-29-2005, 09:02 PM	#85
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	I agree, debating this type of stuff is my favorite part of the whole thing.

12-29-2005, 10:24 PM	#88
CD1083 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,590	Is Brandon McCarthy considered a prospect?

12-30-2005, 07:37 AM	#91
Francis_Cole Guest Posts: n/a	Can't wait till you do anything Rangers related

12-30-2005, 07:45 AM	#92
lefty15401 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 235	Cubbies, Rosters looking great so far...Is it possible for you to give a timeline of when your work may be complete. I am not trying to rush you or anything like that, I would just like to have some sort of time frame to let my owners no...Like maybe a 1-2 week breakdown? Thanks for your work again..Garrett

12-30-2005, 09:49 AM	#93
General Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2	This is that optimistic Braves fan Slyder was talking about. My apologies, for I was unable to post any sooner due to this silly activation mode. Anyhoot, my whole point on Andrus and Salty Dog was that their potentials were low; not necessarily their actual ratings.

12-30-2005, 12:19 PM	#94
Derek4jc Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Attleboro, MA Posts: 238	Am I the only one who can't access each individual player on the page and just get an error message?

12-30-2005, 02:04 PM	#95
General Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2	Nah, that's for everyone.

12-30-2005, 03:53 PM	#96
This Is Not Here Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 328	Unless I missed it somewhere...when will the league file itself be up and available for a download? __________________

12-30-2005, 07:58 PM	#97
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	I only have Toronto, Texas, Washington still to do! After that, I just have to get service time fixed, which won't take long, and then make sure I have everything polished up before I release them. LATE tonight at the earliest, if I don't spend too long at my friend's house, late tomorrow afternoon / early Sunday afternoon at the latest. Everything should be done in this first release, outside of REALLY in-depth minor leagues (which I'm going to work on for the second release, before January 17) as well as pretty in-depth AL prospects (although I'm going to do my best to make sure they're all right) Get pumped!

12-30-2005, 08:47 PM	#98
OfficerTC Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Syracuse Posts: 154	I noticed the ratings weren't very high all over the place (A high 60s contact hitter is actually good in this file I guess). My question is this.... You're a Cubs fan, yet Ted Lilly is better than Mark Prior!?

12-30-2005, 09:06 PM	#99
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Yeah, I might go through and universally bump some ratings. Apologies, I used to make BBPro roster sets, and I'm very used to the mid 50s, 60s CH ratings, and such. I'm going to run a test right now on these, and see how they look.

12-30-2005, 11:08 PM	#100
pseudofool Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 232	Great Job So far Curious how you do the ratings, are they statistically based only? Do you distinction between current rating abilities and talent abilities for young MLBers? Also, as word of advice, try not to make current minor prospects talent ratings any better than current stars...in many of these roster sets, we end up with many prospects putting up Pujols and Johan Santana type numbers within a few simmed seasons. Use current major league ratings as bar. Players like Pujols and Santana are once in generation type players, try not make a ton of them, that absolutely water down the roster set. Thanks for the work.