Louisville Boxing Association - Page 48

mh2365 · 12-18-2005, 12:37 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 9, 1909

FW - Johnny T. Griffin (UR) (12-1-1) UD10 Jerry Marshall (7/7) (9-7-2) (96-93) (Griffin at pre)

BW - Monte Attell (10/8) (14-5-1) UD10 Hugh McGovern (17/18) (7-5-5) (98-92)

HW - Ben Taylor (54/53) (10-10-2) KO10 Jack Ryan (UR) (9-2) (Ryan at pre)

WW - Kid Graves (7/2) (16-2-2) UD10 Jack Goodman (14/17) (8-5-3) (goodman at pre)

MW - Johnny Douglas (UR) (9-0-2) UD8 Dick Barker (UR) (7-5-2) (78-74) (both at pre in this club fight)

FW - Jimmy Hill (UR) (8-2-1) UD8 Patsy Kline (UR) (6-3-1) (both at pre in this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-19-2005, 06:11 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 12, 1909

BW - Terry McGovern (12/14) (30-7-4) UD10 Jimmy Walsh (3/6) (9-9-5) (97-96)

BW - Paddy Kelly (UR) (10-3-1) SD10 Chappie Moran (18/12) (18-19-3) (kelly at pre, Moran at post - moran had a -999.10 come off his last 5 and only lost -220 for this fight which explains his jump in the rankings)

HW - John Knifton (47/26) (17-17-1) UD10 Sam McVey (21/34) (23-7) (second embarrassing loss in a row for McVey)

LW - Danny Duane (15/15) (12-10-2) MD10 Jimmy Carroll (28/33) (16-13-5) (97-95)

WW - Ted Lewis (UR) (7-0) SD8 Tom Meadows (UR) (7-3) (79-75 Lewis) (both at pre for this club fight)

BW - Danny Dougherty (club/11) (14-14-1) UD8 Walter Croot (UR) (7-2-2) (dougherty at post, croot at pre for this club fight - dougherty moves back to prime with the win)

mh2365 · 12-19-2005, 03:40 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 14, 1909

Joe Jeannette (WBC/A) (20-0) scored a TKO5 when a cut over challenger Tommy Burns (3/4) (20-7-2) right eye was too bad to continue.

Burns was cut over the eye in the second round and his corner never stopped the bleeding. The cut was worsened twice before the ring doctor finally stopped it.

Burns was giving as good as he was getting however as I had the fight even after 4.

On the undercard

LH - Gunner Moir (21/17) (9-12-1) KO5 John Miller (UR) (8-4-1) (miller at pre)

MW - Billy Papke (2/2) (18-2) KO10 Billy Baker (3/6) (19-16-4) (88-80) Almost had to make a mandatory retirement rule after this fight as it was one of the worst beatings I have seen in this game. Baker was down 7 times. He had a cut over his right eye, under his left, his lip and nose. Also his right eye was swollen shut. If that wasn't bad enough Papke recieved 4 warnings in the fight 3 times for hitting below the belt.

FW - Young Griffo (14/7) (29-7-6) UD10 Tommy Connolly (16/20) (11-7)

LW - Barney Donovan (club/21) (19-19-2) KO4 Paddy Smith (UR) (7-5-1) (donovan at post, smith at pre for this club fight - donovan moves back to the main division with this win) This shows how tough the LW division is, donovan is 5-0 in his last 5 fights and only ranked 21st of course he only had one decent win in the streak and his average pp for the five fights is 330

BW - Joe Bertrand (UR) (8-2-2) TKO4 Austin "worst rated 7 fighter ever" Rice (club) (5-23-4) (bertrand at pre, rice at post for this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-20-2005, 11:43 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 16, 1909

George Cole (CH) (11-7-4) scored an easy UD15 over challenger Buddy Ryan (6/8) (12-13) for his 3rd defense of the WBA welterweight title.

Ryan fought pretty decent in the first 3 or 4 rounds and then Cole took over and pretty much won out.

I had it 147-139 and Jens Oehlerking, ringside, had it 146-139. The official judges had it a little closer at 144-141/144-141/146-139.

On the undercard

LW - Arthur Chambers (8/6) (14-2-1) TKO4 Arthur Douglas (29/29) (11-5) (30-28) (Douglas at pre)

HW - John Dwyer (50/29) (23-10-1) MD10 Dan Egan (26/22) (19-17)

FW - Oscar Gardner (3/3) (15-4-1) TKO7 Charles Lampey (UR) (9-3-2) (Lampey at pre)

LW - Horace Leeds (UR) (9-2) UD8 Mike Cushing (club) (11-22-5) (leeds at pre, cushing at post for this club fight)

HW - Peter Felix (club) (13-16-2) DRAW10 James McCoy (club) (9-19-2) (felix at post, Mccoy at end for this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-21-2005, 06:08 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

George Dixon (CH) (29-7-1) scored a KO10 over WBA champ Frankie Neil (CH/12) (19-18-3) to unify the Bantamweight titles.

Dixon dominated the fight from the opening bell dropping only the 5th and 6th rounds. Neil was down in the 8th and down for good in the 10th.

Dixon's win means that 4 out of my 8 classes now have a unified champ with the HW division having 3 belts owned by 2 fighters.

I had the fight 88-82 at the time of the stoppage.

On the undercard

BW - Johnny Coulon (4/3) (21-3-2) UD10 Jimmy Williams (UR/25) (7-6-2) (williams at pre)

MW - Tommy Ryan (8/7) (37-2-1) KO7 Denny Kelliher (15/15) (18-18-3)

FW - Abe Willis (33/33) (10-5-2) UD10 Tommy Love (UR/17) (9-3-3) (97-95)(both at pre)

BW - John Connors (UR) (7-2-2) DRAW8 Dan Rowan (UR) (7-1-2) (both at pre for this club fight)

LH - Charles Cooley (club) (6-11-2) UD10 Chris Pearson (club) (5-17-1) (both at post for this club fight)

javier_83 · 12-21-2005, 07:26 PM

weell my prediction are ok

CONN CHRIS · 12-21-2005, 09:38 PM

So Mike, are you going to devise schemes to break up the titles once they are all unified?

mh2365 · 12-21-2005, 10:25 PM

Well I've already decided that if the champ retires or moves up, the titles are broken up again. Also if the champ only has one title on the line and loses the other goes vacant. But it hasn't come up yet.

I would like for it to because I don't really want just one champ in each division. Since it's luck of the roll on which title (or both) he is fighting for I may throw out the rule if they go three defenses of one but not the other the the ignored one will be stripped (make sense?)

I'm dragging my feet sort of right now waiting for a new beta patch at least and also playing Bowl Bound. But I try to do at least a little each day. Plus I'm getting a new computer for Christmas so I'm waiting to move everything over also.

mh2365 · 12-22-2005, 04:56 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 21, 1909

HW - Frank Slavin (49/19) (23-14-1) UD10 Ed Dunkhorst (8/21) (21-15-3) (95-91)

LW - Dave Holly (14/14) (14-6-7) TKO6 Johnny Frayne (UR/44) (6-9)

MW - Frank Craig (11/11) (26-13-2) TKO9 George Lablanche (16/15) (18-18-4) (75-74 lablanche) (Lablanche at post, Craig down 3 times in the first)

BW - Johnny Hughes (1/1) (10-2-5) UD10 Ike Weir (23/club) (7-12-1) (hughes stepped up to BW for this fight)

LH - Morris Harris (26/20) (11-13) KO5 Jack Graham (24/club) (7-12-1)

HW - Pat Kieley (club) (16-18-1) UD10 Joe Grim (club) (11-25-1) (kieley at post, Grim at end for this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-22-2005, 10:37 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 24, 1909

Jack McAuliffe (CH) (32-5-2) scored a KO10 over Freddie Welsh (2/4) for his 8th defense of the WBA title, his WBC belt was not on the line in this fight.

The fight was a very close boxing match until McAuliffe landed a prefect and brutal hook to end the fight in the 10th. The ref could've counted to 100.

I had it 87-86 for the champ at the time of the stoppage. Welsh was fighting the right fight as he had landed 52% of his punches to McAuliffe's 24%.

On the undercard

BW - Owen Moran (11/14) (24-6-6) UD10 Biz "you got what I need" Mackey (UR) (8-4-1) (mackey at pre for this fight)

HW - George Gardner (32/34) (19-11-2) TKO4 Tom Lees (36/49) (20-16) 3(30-27)

HW - Hank Griffin (39/32) (17-8-2) UD10 Harry Smith (UR/42) (10-4-1) (smith at pre)

LH - Charles Goff (34/26) (13-9-2) SD10 Dan Flynn (14/8) (11-6-2) (Goff stepped up to LHW for this fight, Flynn had a loss worth -1400 come off his last five)

MW - John P. Clow (club) (16-20) TKO9 Billy Devine (club) (5-19-4) (clow at end, devine at post - devine stepped up to MW for this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-22-2005, 05:37 PM

And it only took me 20 months to get here

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 28, 1909

BW - Jimmy Gorman (UR) (11-1) MD10 Harry Forbes (6/11) (16-16-6) (97-93) (Gorman at pre)

HW - Bill Doherty (28/33) (11-13-1) TKO2 Steve Reynolds (68/68) (8-10-2)

WW - Jack Hopper (UR) (10-3) TKO5 Dick Nelson (13/15) (11-5) (both at pre, Hopper stepped up to WW for the win)

FW - Young Corbett (6/6) (20-15-4) TKO4 Billy O' Donnell (38/38) (7-10-2)

MW - Jimmy Handler (club/5) (10-10-3) UD8 Tommy Cleary (UR) (8-3-1) (cleary at pre for this club fight, win moves Handler back to main)

FW - Dave Ross (UR) (7-5-1) UD8 Jack Roberts (club) (6-12) (ross at pre, stepped up to FW for this club fight)

CONN CHRIS · 12-22-2005, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

Last fight of my first decade

Congrats Mike! I have 4 years in over 10 real world months - slow going!

mh2365 · 12-22-2005, 07:01 PM

My first four months probably went fairly quick but with over 700 fighters now it's crawling ... love it!!!!

mh2365 · 12-23-2005, 11:36 AM

December saw 5 title fights with all the champs winning except for Frankie Neil who lost the WBA Bantamweight belt in a unification bout with George Dixon.

Once again movement was light and there were alot of debut rankings

movement

LH - Jack Graham (7-12-1) down to club
MW - Jimmy Handler (10-10-3) to main
LW -Barney Donovan (19-19-2) to main
BW - Danny Dougherty (14-14-1) to main
BW - Ike Weir (7-12-1) down to club

Debut rankings

HW - Dick Matthews (12-3) (A24, C32, F26)
HW - Harry Smith (10-4-1) (A42, C46, F44)
LH - Jack McAuley (9-4-2) (A24, C25)
LH -John Wille (11-4) (A11, C8)
LH - James Barry (9-5-1) (A18, C19)
LH - Rough Thompson (10-5) (A15, C12)
WW - Wildcat Ferns (12-3) (A14, C16)
LW - Tim Callahan (10-4-1) (A31, C34)
LW - Arthur Cote (9-5-1) (A32, C31)
LW - Jack Grace (6-9) (A41, C42)
LW - Johnny Frayne (6-9) (A44, C45)
FW - Whitey Chadwick (10-4-1) (A20, C27)
FW - Lew Ryall (9-6) (A26, C24)
FW - Tommy Love (9-3-3) (A17, C16)
BW - Nunc Wallace (9-5-1) (A22, C20)
BW - Jimmy Williams (7-6-2) (A25, C23)

Monthly fights attached

mh2365 · 12-25-2005, 08:26 AM

total fighters = 183

Main = 91/ club = 55/ beginner = 37/ ranked = 75
Stats

Most Wins = Johnson 35
win% = Jeannette 100%
stop % = Sullivan 73.7%
most fights = Stelzner/Jeffries 43
Cons. wins = Johnson 33/ active= Jeannette 20
Cons stops = Jeffries 15

Best Unranked fighters

Frank Moran (10-0)
Jack Lester (12-0-1)
Charlie Richardson (8-0-2)
Dutch Zimmer (10-1)
Jim Savage (9-1)
Jim McCormick (12-2)

Retirements

none

Weight Movement

NA

debut fighters for 1910 (rating)

Jim Cameron (1), Colin Bell (7), George Christian (5), George Cotton (2), Joe Coyne (1), William Demnington (1), Antonio Ferranti (2), Jack Fitzgerald (3), Charles Horn (5), Carl Morris (5), Dick Rice (2), Boer Rodel (1), Ern Waddy (2), Billy Wells (2)

Comebacks (WBA ranking) all retirees coming back only have a 25% chance of coming back at prime

Joe Choynski (32) post
Jake Kilrain (23) post

Rankings attached

mh2365 · 12-25-2005, 10:41 AM

At the end of the first decade 4 time world champion Bob Fitzsimmons has decided to call it a career. He won both the WBA and the WBC Middleweight titles before moving up to Light Heavyweight where he also won the WBA & WBC titles.

His retirement throws the Lightheavyweight division into chaos as both titles are now vacant.

mh2365 · 12-25-2005, 10:50 AM

total fighters = 80

Main = 37/ club = 28/ beginner = 15/ ranked = 27
Stats

Most Wins = Butler 30
win% = O' Brien 83.8%
stop % = Dillon 61.5%
most fights = Sullivan 36
Cons. wins = O'Brien 13, Temple 13, Dillon 13
Cons stops = Haghey 6

Best Unranked fighters

Jack Dillon (13-0)
Bob McAllister (10-1)
Georges Carpentier (9-1)

Retirements

Bob Fitzsimmons (34-4)

debut fighters for 1910 (rating)

Pietro Boine (3), Tom Cowler (3), Cat Eye (1), Fred Hicks (1), Arthur Pelkey (3), Sargeant Sunshine (1), Jackie Clark (5), Irish Gorgas (5)

Comebacks (WBA ranking) all retirees coming back only have a 25% chance of coming back at prime

none

Rankings attached

mh2365 · 12-27-2005, 03:57 PM

Just a quick note .... I managed to get everything moved to the new computer just fine. The only problem is that I don't have Corel (quattro pro) on the new computer and I can't seem to find the disks.

The spreadsheet that came on this computer is microsoft works which I can't seem to figure out how to get color text in the boxes. So I am either going to buy Quattro Pro off of e-bay or find my corel disks. I will probably be away from this thread a few days either way.

mh2365 · 12-28-2005, 11:24 AM

Okay I bought wordperfect 12 (which has quattro pro) off of ebay yesterday ... so hopefully within a week I'll be up and running. Pretty sad that I'm so used to my color codes on my spreadsheet that I had to buy quattro pro just to continue

mh2365 · 01-01-2006, 01:36 PM

Okay I found a trial demo that's good for 30 days which is more than enough time for the copy I bought on ebay to come.

12-19-2005, 03:40 PM	#943
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Jeannette stops Burns I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 14, 1909 Joe Jeannette (WBC/A) (20-0) scored a TKO5 when a cut over challenger Tommy Burns (3/4) (20-7-2) right eye was too bad to continue. Burns was cut over the eye in the second round and his corner never stopped the bleeding. The cut was worsened twice before the ring doctor finally stopped it. Burns was giving as good as he was getting however as I had the fight even after 4. On the undercard LH - Gunner Moir (21/17) (9-12-1) KO5 John Miller (UR) (8-4-1) (miller at pre) MW - Billy Papke (2/2) (18-2) KO10 Billy Baker (3/6) (19-16-4) (88-80) Almost had to make a mandatory retirement rule after this fight as it was one of the worst beatings I have seen in this game. Baker was down 7 times. He had a cut over his right eye, under his left, his lip and nose. Also his right eye was swollen shut. If that wasn't bad enough Papke recieved 4 warnings in the fight 3 times for hitting below the belt. FW - Young Griffo (14/7) (29-7-6) UD10 Tommy Connolly (16/20) (11-7) LW - Barney Donovan (club/21) (19-19-2) KO4 Paddy Smith (UR) (7-5-1) (donovan at post, smith at pre for this club fight - donovan moves back to the main division with this win) This shows how tough the LW division is, donovan is 5-0 in his last 5 fights and only ranked 21st of course he only had one decent win in the streak and his average pp for the five fights is 330 BW - Joe Bertrand (UR) (8-2-2) TKO4 Austin "worst rated 7 fighter ever" Rice (club) (5-23-4) (bertrand at pre, rice at post for this club fight)

12-20-2005, 11:43 AM	#944
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Cole cruises past Ryan I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 16, 1909 George Cole (CH) (11-7-4) scored an easy UD15 over challenger Buddy Ryan (6/8) (12-13) for his 3rd defense of the WBA welterweight title. Ryan fought pretty decent in the first 3 or 4 rounds and then Cole took over and pretty much won out. I had it 147-139 and Jens Oehlerking, ringside, had it 146-139. The official judges had it a little closer at 144-141/144-141/146-139. On the undercard LW - Arthur Chambers (8/6) (14-2-1) TKO4 Arthur Douglas (29/29) (11-5) (30-28) (Douglas at pre) HW - John Dwyer (50/29) (23-10-1) MD10 Dan Egan (26/22) (19-17) FW - Oscar Gardner (3/3) (15-4-1) TKO7 Charles Lampey (UR) (9-3-2) (Lampey at pre) LW - Horace Leeds (UR) (9-2) UD8 Mike Cushing (club) (11-22-5) (leeds at pre, cushing at post for this club fight) HW - Peter Felix (club) (13-16-2) DRAW10 James McCoy (club) (9-19-2) (felix at post, Mccoy at end for this club fight)

12-21-2005, 06:08 AM	#945
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Dixon unifies BW title I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. George Dixon (CH) (29-7-1) scored a KO10 over WBA champ Frankie Neil (CH/12) (19-18-3) to unify the Bantamweight titles. Dixon dominated the fight from the opening bell dropping only the 5th and 6th rounds. Neil was down in the 8th and down for good in the 10th. Dixon's win means that 4 out of my 8 classes now have a unified champ with the HW division having 3 belts owned by 2 fighters. I had the fight 88-82 at the time of the stoppage. On the undercard BW - Johnny Coulon (4/3) (21-3-2) UD10 Jimmy Williams (UR/25) (7-6-2) (williams at pre) MW - Tommy Ryan (8/7) (37-2-1) KO7 Denny Kelliher (15/15) (18-18-3) FW - Abe Willis (33/33) (10-5-2) UD10 Tommy Love (UR/17) (9-3-3) (97-95)(both at pre) BW - John Connors (UR) (7-2-2) DRAW8 Dan Rowan (UR) (7-1-2) (both at pre for this club fight) LH - Charles Cooley (club) (6-11-2) UD10 Chris Pearson (club) (5-17-1) (both at post for this club fight)

12-21-2005, 07:26 PM	#946
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12-21-2005, 09:38 PM	#947
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,014	So Mike, are you going to devise schemes to break up the titles once they are all unified? __________________ Check Out My Cards!

12-18-2005, 12:37 PM	#941
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 9, 1909 FW - Johnny T. Griffin (UR) (12-1-1) UD10 Jerry Marshall (7/7) (9-7-2) (96-93) (Griffin at pre) BW - Monte Attell (10/8) (14-5-1) UD10 Hugh McGovern (17/18) (7-5-5) (98-92) HW - Ben Taylor (54/53) (10-10-2) KO10 Jack Ryan (UR) (9-2) (Ryan at pre) WW - Kid Graves (7/2) (16-2-2) UD10 Jack Goodman (14/17) (8-5-3) (goodman at pre) MW - Johnny Douglas (UR) (9-0-2) UD8 Dick Barker (UR) (7-5-2) (78-74) (both at pre in this club fight) FW - Jimmy Hill (UR) (8-2-1) UD8 Patsy Kline (UR) (6-3-1) (both at pre in this club fight)

12-19-2005, 06:11 AM	#942
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 12, 1909 BW - Terry McGovern (12/14) (30-7-4) UD10 Jimmy Walsh (3/6) (9-9-5) (97-96) BW - Paddy Kelly (UR) (10-3-1) SD10 Chappie Moran (18/12) (18-19-3) (kelly at pre, Moran at post - moran had a -999.10 come off his last 5 and only lost -220 for this fight which explains his jump in the rankings) HW - John Knifton (47/26) (17-17-1) UD10 Sam McVey (21/34) (23-7) (second embarrassing loss in a row for McVey) LW - Danny Duane (15/15) (12-10-2) MD10 Jimmy Carroll (28/33) (16-13-5) (97-95) WW - Ted Lewis (UR) (7-0) SD8 Tom Meadows (UR) (7-3) (79-75 Lewis) (both at pre for this club fight) BW - Danny Dougherty (club/11) (14-14-1) UD8 Walter Croot (UR) (7-2-2) (dougherty at post, croot at pre for this club fight - dougherty moves back to prime with the win)

12-21-2005, 10:25 PM	#948
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Well I've already decided that if the champ retires or moves up, the titles are broken up again. Also if the champ only has one title on the line and loses the other goes vacant. But it hasn't come up yet. I would like for it to because I don't really want just one champ in each division. Since it's luck of the roll on which title (or both) he is fighting for I may throw out the rule if they go three defenses of one but not the other the the ignored one will be stripped (make sense?) I'm dragging my feet sort of right now waiting for a new beta patch at least and also playing Bowl Bound. But I try to do at least a little each day. Plus I'm getting a new computer for Christmas so I'm waiting to move everything over also.

12-22-2005, 04:56 AM	#949
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 21, 1909 HW - Frank Slavin (49/19) (23-14-1) UD10 Ed Dunkhorst (8/21) (21-15-3) (95-91) LW - Dave Holly (14/14) (14-6-7) TKO6 Johnny Frayne (UR/44) (6-9) MW - Frank Craig (11/11) (26-13-2) TKO9 George Lablanche (16/15) (18-18-4) (75-74 lablanche) (Lablanche at post, Craig down 3 times in the first) BW - Johnny Hughes (1/1) (10-2-5) UD10 Ike Weir (23/club) (7-12-1) (hughes stepped up to BW for this fight) LH - Morris Harris (26/20) (11-13) KO5 Jack Graham (24/club) (7-12-1) HW - Pat Kieley (club) (16-18-1) UD10 Joe Grim (club) (11-25-1) (kieley at post, Grim at end for this club fight)

12-22-2005, 10:37 AM	#950
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	McAuliffe stops Welsh in the 10th I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 24, 1909 Jack McAuliffe (CH) (32-5-2) scored a KO10 over Freddie Welsh (2/4) for his 8th defense of the WBA title, his WBC belt was not on the line in this fight. The fight was a very close boxing match until McAuliffe landed a prefect and brutal hook to end the fight in the 10th. The ref could've counted to 100. I had it 87-86 for the champ at the time of the stoppage. Welsh was fighting the right fight as he had landed 52% of his punches to McAuliffe's 24%. On the undercard BW - Owen Moran (11/14) (24-6-6) UD10 Biz "you got what I need" Mackey (UR) (8-4-1) (mackey at pre for this fight) HW - George Gardner (32/34) (19-11-2) TKO4 Tom Lees (36/49) (20-16) 3(30-27) HW - Hank Griffin (39/32) (17-8-2) UD10 Harry Smith (UR/42) (10-4-1) (smith at pre) LH - Charles Goff (34/26) (13-9-2) SD10 Dan Flynn (14/8) (11-6-2) (Goff stepped up to LHW for this fight, Flynn had a loss worth -1400 come off his last five) MW - John P. Clow (club) (16-20) TKO9 Billy Devine (club) (5-19-4) (clow at end, devine at post - devine stepped up to MW for this club fight)

12-22-2005, 05:37 PM	#951
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Last fight of my first decade And it only took me 20 months to get here I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 28, 1909 BW - Jimmy Gorman (UR) (11-1) MD10 Harry Forbes (6/11) (16-16-6) (97-93) (Gorman at pre) HW - Bill Doherty (28/33) (11-13-1) TKO2 Steve Reynolds (68/68) (8-10-2) WW - Jack Hopper (UR) (10-3) TKO5 Dick Nelson (13/15) (11-5) (both at pre, Hopper stepped up to WW for the win) FW - Young Corbett (6/6) (20-15-4) TKO4 Billy O' Donnell (38/38) (7-10-2) MW - Jimmy Handler (club/5) (10-10-3) UD8 Tommy Cleary (UR) (8-3-1) (cleary at pre for this club fight, win moves Handler back to main) FW - Dave Ross (UR) (7-5-1) UD8 Jack Roberts (club) (6-12) (ross at pre, stepped up to FW for this club fight)

12-22-2005, 07:01 PM	#953
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	My first four months probably went fairly quick but with over 700 fighters now it's crawling ... love it!!!!

12-23-2005, 11:36 AM	#954
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of December 1909 December saw 5 title fights with all the champs winning except for Frankie Neil who lost the WBA Bantamweight belt in a unification bout with George Dixon. Once again movement was light and there were alot of debut rankings movement LH - Jack Graham (7-12-1) down to club MW - Jimmy Handler (10-10-3) to main LW -Barney Donovan (19-19-2) to main BW - Danny Dougherty (14-14-1) to main BW - Ike Weir (7-12-1) down to club Debut rankings HW - Dick Matthews (12-3) (A24, C32, F26) HW - Harry Smith (10-4-1) (A42, C46, F44) LH - Jack McAuley (9-4-2) (A24, C25) LH -John Wille (11-4) (A11, C8) LH - James Barry (9-5-1) (A18, C19) LH - Rough Thompson (10-5) (A15, C12) WW - Wildcat Ferns (12-3) (A14, C16) LW - Tim Callahan (10-4-1) (A31, C34) LW - Arthur Cote (9-5-1) (A32, C31) LW - Jack Grace (6-9) (A41, C42) LW - Johnny Frayne (6-9) (A44, C45) FW - Whitey Chadwick (10-4-1) (A20, C27) FW - Lew Ryall (9-6) (A26, C24) FW - Tommy Love (9-3-3) (A17, C16) BW - Nunc Wallace (9-5-1) (A22, C20) BW - Jimmy Williams (7-6-2) (A25, C23) Monthly fights attached Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:08 PM.

12-25-2005, 08:26 AM	#955
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Heavyweights - End of 1909 total fighters = 183 Main = 91/ club = 55/ beginner = 37/ ranked = 75 Stats Most Wins = Johnson 35 win% = Jeannette 100% stop % = Sullivan 73.7% most fights = Stelzner/Jeffries 43 Cons. wins = Johnson 33/ active= Jeannette 20 Cons stops = Jeffries 15 Best Unranked fighters Frank Moran (10-0) Jack Lester (12-0-1) Charlie Richardson (8-0-2) Dutch Zimmer (10-1) Jim Savage (9-1) Jim McCormick (12-2) Retirements none Weight Movement NA debut fighters for 1910 (rating) Jim Cameron (1), Colin Bell (7), George Christian (5), George Cotton (2), Joe Coyne (1), William Demnington (1), Antonio Ferranti (2), Jack Fitzgerald (3), Charles Horn (5), Carl Morris (5), Dick Rice (2), Boer Rodel (1), Ern Waddy (2), Billy Wells (2) Comebacks (WBA ranking) all retirees coming back only have a 25% chance of coming back at prime Joe Choynski (32) post Jake Kilrain (23) post Rankings attached Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:08 PM.

12-25-2005, 10:41 AM	#956
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Stunning news from the LBA At the end of the first decade 4 time world champion Bob Fitzsimmons has decided to call it a career. He won both the WBA and the WBC Middleweight titles before moving up to Light Heavyweight where he also won the WBA & WBC titles. His retirement throws the Lightheavyweight division into chaos as both titles are now vacant. Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:08 PM.

12-25-2005, 10:50 AM	#957
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	LightHeavyweights - End of 1909 total fighters = 80 Main = 37/ club = 28/ beginner = 15/ ranked = 27 Stats Most Wins = Butler 30 win% = O' Brien 83.8% stop % = Dillon 61.5% most fights = Sullivan 36 Cons. wins = O'Brien 13, Temple 13, Dillon 13 Cons stops = Haghey 6 Best Unranked fighters Jack Dillon (13-0) Bob McAllister (10-1) Georges Carpentier (9-1) Retirements Bob Fitzsimmons (34-4) debut fighters for 1910 (rating) Pietro Boine (3), Tom Cowler (3), Cat Eye (1), Fred Hicks (1), Arthur Pelkey (3), Sargeant Sunshine (1), Jackie Clark (5), Irish Gorgas (5) Comebacks (WBA ranking) all retirees coming back only have a 25% chance of coming back at prime none Rankings attached Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:08 PM.

12-27-2005, 03:57 PM	#958
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Just a quick note .... I managed to get everything moved to the new computer just fine. The only problem is that I don't have Corel (quattro pro) on the new computer and I can't seem to find the disks. The spreadsheet that came on this computer is microsoft works which I can't seem to figure out how to get color text in the boxes. So I am either going to buy Quattro Pro off of e-bay or find my corel disks. I will probably be away from this thread a few days either way.

12-28-2005, 11:24 AM	#959
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Okay I bought wordperfect 12 (which has quattro pro) off of ebay yesterday ... so hopefully within a week I'll be up and running. Pretty sad that I'm so used to my color codes on my spreadsheet that I had to buy quattro pro just to continue

01-01-2006, 01:36 PM	#960
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Okay I found a trial demo that's good for 30 days which is more than enough time for the copy I bought on ebay to come.