Louisville Boxing Association - Page 47

mh2365 · 12-08-2005, 05:44 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

November 20, 1909

Jem Driscoll (ch) (33-5-1) had a close call but pulled out a SD15 over Young Corbett (10/6) (19-15-4) to defend the WBA Featherweight title for the 5th time.

The fight was very close for the first five rounds with Driscoll having a slight edge in all five rounds. I had it 4-0-1 after 5. In a non-championship fight it might have been split differently. Only one of the official judges had any of the rounds scored for Corbett.

That made a huge difference as Corbett dominated the middle rounds, even dropping Driscoll in the 9th. But all that did was tie up the fight. Driscoll cleared his head and finished strong and won the 15th on all three scorecards which got him the victory.

I had it 143-142 Driscoll, as did Markus Heinsohn ringside. The official judges had it 143-142/142-144/145-140.

On the undercard

FLY - Kid Murphy (3/3) (16-2-2) DRAW10 Joe McGrath (UR) (8-1-2) (mcgrath at pre)
WW - Terry Martin (3/3) (15-2-1) SD10 Charley Hitte (6/11) (15-11)
LW - Tommy Murphy (39/41) (10-13-3) UD10 harry Stone (UR/36) (8-6-1) (stone at pre, Murphy at post)
MW - Denny Kelliher (13/15) (18-17-3) TKO10 Paddy Levin (UR/10) (10-2-3) (levin at pre)
BW - Harry Ware (club/9) (11-11-2) SD10 Tommy Feltz (club) (12-20-2) (feltz at post for this club fight, Ware moved back to main with this win)

mh2365 · 12-08-2005, 10:21 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

November 23, 1909

HW - Sam Langford (16/15) (22-6-1) UD10 Mike Schreck (43/42) (20-16)
MW - Jim Griffin (26/28) (10-7) MD10 George Gunther (UR) (10-3) (gunther at pre)
BW - Johnny Ritchie (UR) (9-1-2) TKO3 Joe Wagner (17/12) (12-13) (ritchie at pre)
WW - Arthur Evernden (UR) (9-2) UD10 Young Sammy Smith (23/20) (7-6-3) (both at pre)
LW - Eddie Connolly (38/37) (9-9-2) TKO4 Paddy Sullivan (35/33) (8-8) (sullivan at pre)
HW - James Dalton (club) (12-20-5) MD10 Tompkin Gilbert (club) (8-24-4) (Dalton at post, Gilbert at end for this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-08-2005, 01:07 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

November 26, 1909

WW - Joe Gans (1/2) (28-4-3) TKO9 Tommy West (5/3) (15-5-2)
BW - Jimmy Gorman (UR) (10-1) TKO6 Thomas Palmer (12/19) (16-19-2) (gorman at pre, Palmer at post)
HW - Frank Mantell (9/7) (13-4) SD10 Frank Slavin (34/48) (22-14-1) (mantell at pre)
LW - Austin Gibbons (14/11) (19-17-3) KO9 Bill Dacey (7/12) (15-16-2) (dacey at post)
LH - Al Weinig (3/3) (12-10-1) KO3 Henri Placke (UR/12) (6-7-3) (placke at pre)
BW - Dan Rowan (UR) (7-1-1) SD8 Charley Parton (UR) (6-4-1) (both at pre for this club fight)

javier_83 · 12-08-2005, 01:46 PM

Did you find on your ranking people with negative record, in better rank that people with positive record?

mh2365 · 12-08-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by javier_83

Did you find on your ranking people with negative record, in better rank that people with positive record?

I haven't seen it too often but it all depends on the last 5 fights ... if the guy who is 11-12 has won his last 5 he'll be ranked pretty high.

javier_83 · 12-08-2005, 01:53 PM

yeah, i see this on the tournament

really i dont like

it doesnt fair

mh2365 · 12-08-2005, 01:57 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

November 29, 1909

BW - Johnny Murphy (6/7) (14-1-1) SD10 Jimmy Barry (UR) (9-1) (barry at pre - this fight had future title match written all over it, murphy got a kd in the last round to win the fight)
HW - Paddy Ryan (64/57) (9-11-2) TKO5 Bill Squires (56/68) (11-15-1) (squires at post)
FW - Percy Cove (UR) (10-2-1) UD10 Abe Willis (32/31) (9-5-2) (both at pre)
FW - Young Byrnes (31/17) (8-8-1) SD10 Jack Downey (16/11) (11-6)
MW - Arthur Cripps (29/29) (10-10) DQ2 Walter Coffey (UR) (9-4) (coffey at pre)
BW - Johnny Reagan (club) (3-19-1) DRAW8 Charley Harvey (UR) (6-1-4) (harvey at pre and stepped up to BW for this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-08-2005, 10:54 PM

One month away from the end of my first decade. Both champs kept their titles this month although Driscoll had a scare. Once again not much movement but plenty of debut rankings.

Movement - all from club to main unless noted

HW - Joe Goddard (15-15-1)
Mw - Paddy Purtell (10-15) down to club
FW - Joe Bernstein (13-13-4)
BW - Harry Ware (11-11-2)

Debut rankings

HW - Punch Vaughn (10-5) (A45/C42/F44) *71 ranked
LH - Jim Dunn (9-5-1) (A9/C8) *25
LH - Henri Placke (6-7-2) (A12/C12) *25
MW - Jerry Jerome (13-2) (A13/C12) *36
MW - Paddy Levin (10-2-3) *36
WW - Jack Goodman (8-4-3) (A14/C14) *28
WW - Dick Nelson (11-4) (A13/C9) *28
LW - Irish Jack Smith (9-6) (A38/C37) *42
LW - George Washington (8-4-3) (A40/C40) *42
LW - Arthur Douglas (11-4) (A29/C26) *42
LW - Harry Stone (8-6-1) (A36/C38) *42
FW - Harry Paul (9-6) (A32/C30) *38
FW - Harry Decker (10-4-1) (A18/C25) *38
BW - Dave Sullivan (12-2-1) (A8/C9) *28

monthly fights attached

mh2365 · 12-09-2005, 02:50 AM

The beginners went 41-7-2 against the TC's this month to end the year.

HW - Billy Cadman (3-3-4) reached his 10th fight and moved up to club although he will stay as a beginner. I'll get these type of guys even though my beginner stage is 5 to 8. Cadman has had 3 fights towards that goal.

Hopefully Andreas will fix the manual change of stage problem before the release of the aging system.

mh2365 · 12-12-2005, 09:39 PM

44 out of the 138 fighters scheduled to fight this month in the main division got to fight TC's and they went 38-4-2. Scheduling this month is taking a while due to finalizing end of the year records for those not scheduled to fight.

mh2365 · 12-16-2005, 06:08 AM

104 fighters were scheduled to fight this month out of the club division with 58 of them to fight TC's. They went 50-8 against the TC's

mh2365 · 12-16-2005, 06:14 AM

Five title fights scheduled for this last month of the first decade of the LBA.

HW - (WBC) Joe Jeannette (19-0) vs Tommy Burns (3) (20-6-2) first meeting

LH - (WBA) Bob Fitzsimmons (33-4) vs John Donaldson (6) (15-10) first meeting

WW - (WBA) George Cole (10-7-4) vs Buddy Ryan (6) (12-12) third meeting with Cole winning by TKO in 1906 and by MD in 1907

LW - (WBA) Jack McAuliffe (31-5-2) vs Freddie Welsh (2) (15-2-1) first meeting

BW - (UT) George Dixon (WBC) (28-7-1) vs Freddie Neil (WBA) (19-17-3) second meeting with Dixon winning by MD in 1901

javier_83 · 12-16-2005, 12:16 PM

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HW - (WBC) Joe Jeannette (19-0) vs Tommy Burns (3) (20-6-2) first meeting

Joe will have a hard fight this one but i think he can won it

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LH - (WBA) Bob Fitzsimmons (33-4) vs John Donaldson (6) (15-10) first meeting

Bob will destroy jhon

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WW - (WBA) George Cole (10-7-4) vs Buddy Ryan (6) (12-12) third meeting with Cole winning by TKO in 1906 and by MD in 1907

i dont trust Cole i hope hje lose :P

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LW - (WBA) Jack McAuliffe (31-5-2) vs Freddie Welsh (2) (15-2-1) first meeting

Good fight but Jack must win

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BW - (UT) George Dixon (WBC) (28-7-1) vs Freddie Neil (WBA) (19-17-3) second meeting with Dixon winning by MD in 1901

mh2365 · 12-16-2005, 02:54 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

December 2, 1909

HW - James Corbett (17/5) (29-8-3) UD10 Tom Sharkey (5/15) (27-14)
HW - Joe Goss (29/16) (17-5-2) UD10 Nick Burley (37/48) (16-10)
LH - Leo Houck (11/15) (17-11-2) DRAW10 Larry Temple (20/12) (14-3-2)
MW - George Rooke (24/20) (16-16-1) TKO8 Harris Martin (5/9) (20-15-5)
HW - Ned Kelly (UR) (6-7-1) SD8 Enos Phillips (UR) (5-5-1) (both at pre in this club fight)
MW - Frank Bosworth (UR) (8-2-1) TKO5 Tommy Chandler (club) (15-22-2) (bosworth at pre, chandler at post in this club fight)

mh2365 · 12-16-2005, 03:24 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

December 5th, 1909

Bob Fitzsimmons (CH) (34-4) scored a TKO12 over John Donaldson (6/6) (15-11) to win his 3rd defense of the WBA Lightheavyweight title. Fitz's WBC belt was not on the line in this fight.

Fitzsimmons started out slow splitting the first 6 rounds before dropping Donaldson in the 7th. Donaldson got up slow but held out for the rest of the round. He also started swelling around his right eye in the 7th.

Fitzsimmons continued to pound away in the 8th and 9th rounds before dropping Donaldson 3 times in the 10th. Donaldson amazingly got to his feet all 3 times.

Donaldson gave it one last go in the 11th, throwing everything he had left and winning the round. But it took it's toll as the fight was stopped in the 12th with Donaldson exhausted on the ropes and not fighting back.

I had it 106-99 at the time of the stoppage.

On the undercard

WW - Joe Walcott (18/6) (21-13-3) KO10 Al Neill (9/18) (7-10-2)
HW - Frank Childs (23/11) (21-14-5) SD10 Jimmy Elliot (44/51) (24-7-3)
LH - John Flood (23/11) (9-10-1) TKO10 Jack Beauscholte (25/25) (8-10-2)
LW - Jewey Cooke (23/23) (12-7-3) UD10 Harry Stone (38/41) (8-7-1) (stone at pre)
HW - Syd Hughes (club) (9-12-1) KO8 Gunner White (club) (3-19-2) (white at post in this club fight)

Tosti · 12-16-2005, 05:20 PM

Interesting how Fitz is doing well in your uni. Since he made the switch from Heavy to Middleweight in mine he has gone downhill fast.

The Dobbs file you were after is on my WBF thread.

mh2365 · 12-16-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tosti

Interesting how Fitz is doing well in your uni. Since he made the switch from Heavy to Middleweight in mine he has gone downhill fast.

The Dobbs file you were after is on my WBF thread.

Thanks for the file .... Fitz was 28-4 at MW then he moved up and dropped a little in the ratings and is 6-0 in the LHW division. Not much of a challange right now at LHW with O'Brien being the only real threat and Fitz handled him with a KO7.

But Dillon, McAllister and Carpentier are all coming on so it should get interesting for him before long.

SAL · 12-16-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

But Dillon, McAllister and Carpentier are all coming on so it should get interesting for him before long.

Those three could spell the end for Fitz.

mh2365 · 12-17-2005, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SAL

Those three could spell the end for Fitz.

Dillon at 13-0 with 8 ko's is looking esp. scary

mh2365 · 12-17-2005, 12:23 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

December 7, 1909

WW - Charley Hitte (11/11) (16-11) TKO10 Jack Willis (15/19) (87-85 willis) Willis broke his hand and quit at the start of the 10th.
LW - Leach Cross (25/17) (10-8-1) UD10 Young Erne (24/38) (12-4) (erne at pre) (96-95 Cross)
HW - Billy Smith (40/19) (21-13-1) KO8 Dick O'Brien (45/56) (10-7-1)
LH - James Barry (UR/17) (9-5-1) KO1 Rough Thompson (UR/14) (10-5) (both at pre)
LH - Dan Dwyer (club) (15-17-1) SD8 Sam Campbell (UR) (8-3) (dwyer at post, campbell at pre for this club fight)
WW - Scaldy Bill Quinn (club) (7-12-2) KO1 Billy Gardner (club) (9-18-3) (gardner at post for this club fight)

12-08-2005, 05:44 AM	#921
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Corbett close but not quite I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. November 20, 1909 Jem Driscoll (ch) (33-5-1) had a close call but pulled out a SD15 over Young Corbett (10/6) (19-15-4) to defend the WBA Featherweight title for the 5th time. The fight was very close for the first five rounds with Driscoll having a slight edge in all five rounds. I had it 4-0-1 after 5. In a non-championship fight it might have been split differently. Only one of the official judges had any of the rounds scored for Corbett. That made a huge difference as Corbett dominated the middle rounds, even dropping Driscoll in the 9th. But all that did was tie up the fight. Driscoll cleared his head and finished strong and won the 15th on all three scorecards which got him the victory. I had it 143-142 Driscoll, as did Markus Heinsohn ringside. The official judges had it 143-142/142-144/145-140. On the undercard FLY - Kid Murphy (3/3) (16-2-2) DRAW10 Joe McGrath (UR) (8-1-2) (mcgrath at pre) WW - Terry Martin (3/3) (15-2-1) SD10 Charley Hitte (6/11) (15-11) LW - Tommy Murphy (39/41) (10-13-3) UD10 harry Stone (UR/36) (8-6-1) (stone at pre, Murphy at post) MW - Denny Kelliher (13/15) (18-17-3) TKO10 Paddy Levin (UR/10) (10-2-3) (levin at pre) BW - Harry Ware (club/9) (11-11-2) SD10 Tommy Feltz (club) (12-20-2) (feltz at post for this club fight, Ware moved back to main with this win)

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12-08-2005, 01:53 PM	#926
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12-08-2005, 10:54 PM	#928
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of November 1909. One month away from the end of my first decade. Both champs kept their titles this month although Driscoll had a scare. Once again not much movement but plenty of debut rankings. Movement - all from club to main unless noted HW - Joe Goddard (15-15-1) Mw - Paddy Purtell (10-15) down to club FW - Joe Bernstein (13-13-4) BW - Harry Ware (11-11-2) Debut rankings HW - Punch Vaughn (10-5) (A45/C42/F44) 71 ranked LH - Jim Dunn (9-5-1) (A9/C8) 25 LH - Henri Placke (6-7-2) (A12/C12) 25 MW - Jerry Jerome (13-2) (A13/C12) 36 MW - Paddy Levin (10-2-3) 36 WW - Jack Goodman (8-4-3) (A14/C14) 28 WW - Dick Nelson (11-4) (A13/C9) 28 LW - Irish Jack Smith (9-6) (A38/C37) 42 LW - George Washington (8-4-3) (A40/C40) 42 LW - Arthur Douglas (11-4) (A29/C26) 42 LW - Harry Stone (8-6-1) (A36/C38) 42 FW - Harry Paul (9-6) (A32/C30) 38 FW - Harry Decker (10-4-1) (A18/C25) 38 BW - Dave Sullivan (12-2-1) (A8/C9) 28 monthly fights attached Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:08 PM.

12-09-2005, 02:50 AM	#929
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Beginners for December 1901 The beginners went 41-7-2 against the TC's this month to end the year. HW - Billy Cadman (3-3-4) reached his 10th fight and moved up to club although he will stay as a beginner. I'll get these type of guys even though my beginner stage is 5 to 8. Cadman has had 3 fights towards that goal. Hopefully Andreas will fix the manual change of stage problem before the release of the aging system.

12-08-2005, 10:21 AM	#922
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. November 23, 1909 HW - Sam Langford (16/15) (22-6-1) UD10 Mike Schreck (43/42) (20-16) MW - Jim Griffin (26/28) (10-7) MD10 George Gunther (UR) (10-3) (gunther at pre) BW - Johnny Ritchie (UR) (9-1-2) TKO3 Joe Wagner (17/12) (12-13) (ritchie at pre) WW - Arthur Evernden (UR) (9-2) UD10 Young Sammy Smith (23/20) (7-6-3) (both at pre) LW - Eddie Connolly (38/37) (9-9-2) TKO4 Paddy Sullivan (35/33) (8-8) (sullivan at pre) HW - James Dalton (club) (12-20-5) MD10 Tompkin Gilbert (club) (8-24-4) (Dalton at post, Gilbert at end for this club fight)

12-08-2005, 01:07 PM	#923
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. November 26, 1909 WW - Joe Gans (1/2) (28-4-3) TKO9 Tommy West (5/3) (15-5-2) BW - Jimmy Gorman (UR) (10-1) TKO6 Thomas Palmer (12/19) (16-19-2) (gorman at pre, Palmer at post) HW - Frank Mantell (9/7) (13-4) SD10 Frank Slavin (34/48) (22-14-1) (mantell at pre) LW - Austin Gibbons (14/11) (19-17-3) KO9 Bill Dacey (7/12) (15-16-2) (dacey at post) LH - Al Weinig (3/3) (12-10-1) KO3 Henri Placke (UR/12) (6-7-3) (placke at pre) BW - Dan Rowan (UR) (7-1-1) SD8 Charley Parton (UR) (6-4-1) (both at pre for this club fight)

12-08-2005, 01:57 PM	#927
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. November 29, 1909 BW - Johnny Murphy (6/7) (14-1-1) SD10 Jimmy Barry (UR) (9-1) (barry at pre - this fight had future title match written all over it, murphy got a kd in the last round to win the fight) HW - Paddy Ryan (64/57) (9-11-2) TKO5 Bill Squires (56/68) (11-15-1) (squires at post) FW - Percy Cove (UR) (10-2-1) UD10 Abe Willis (32/31) (9-5-2) (both at pre) FW - Young Byrnes (31/17) (8-8-1) SD10 Jack Downey (16/11) (11-6) MW - Arthur Cripps (29/29) (10-10) DQ2 Walter Coffey (UR) (9-4) (coffey at pre) BW - Johnny Reagan (club) (3-19-1) DRAW8 Charley Harvey (UR) (6-1-4) (harvey at pre and stepped up to BW for this club fight)

12-12-2005, 09:39 PM	#930
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Main division vs TC's December 1909 44 out of the 138 fighters scheduled to fight this month in the main division got to fight TC's and they went 38-4-2. Scheduling this month is taking a while due to finalizing end of the year records for those not scheduled to fight.

12-16-2005, 06:08 AM	#931
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Club division vs TC's December 1909 104 fighters were scheduled to fight this month out of the club division with 58 of them to fight TC's. They went 50-8 against the TC's

12-16-2005, 06:14 AM	#932
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	December 1909 Title Fights Five title fights scheduled for this last month of the first decade of the LBA. HW - (WBC) Joe Jeannette (19-0) vs Tommy Burns (3) (20-6-2) first meeting LH - (WBA) Bob Fitzsimmons (33-4) vs John Donaldson (6) (15-10) first meeting WW - (WBA) George Cole (10-7-4) vs Buddy Ryan (6) (12-12) third meeting with Cole winning by TKO in 1906 and by MD in 1907 LW - (WBA) Jack McAuliffe (31-5-2) vs Freddie Welsh (2) (15-2-1) first meeting BW - (UT) George Dixon (WBC) (28-7-1) vs Freddie Neil (WBA) (19-17-3) second meeting with Dixon winning by MD in 1901

12-16-2005, 02:54 PM	#934
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. December 2, 1909 HW - James Corbett (17/5) (29-8-3) UD10 Tom Sharkey (5/15) (27-14) HW - Joe Goss (29/16) (17-5-2) UD10 Nick Burley (37/48) (16-10) LH - Leo Houck (11/15) (17-11-2) DRAW10 Larry Temple (20/12) (14-3-2) MW - George Rooke (24/20) (16-16-1) TKO8 Harris Martin (5/9) (20-15-5) HW - Ned Kelly (UR) (6-7-1) SD8 Enos Phillips (UR) (5-5-1) (both at pre in this club fight) MW - Frank Bosworth (UR) (8-2-1) TKO5 Tommy Chandler (club) (15-22-2) (bosworth at pre, chandler at post in this club fight)

12-16-2005, 03:24 PM	#935
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Fitzsimmons retains WBA title I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. December 5th, 1909 Bob Fitzsimmons (CH) (34-4) scored a TKO12 over John Donaldson (6/6) (15-11) to win his 3rd defense of the WBA Lightheavyweight title. Fitz's WBC belt was not on the line in this fight. Fitzsimmons started out slow splitting the first 6 rounds before dropping Donaldson in the 7th. Donaldson got up slow but held out for the rest of the round. He also started swelling around his right eye in the 7th. Fitzsimmons continued to pound away in the 8th and 9th rounds before dropping Donaldson 3 times in the 10th. Donaldson amazingly got to his feet all 3 times. Donaldson gave it one last go in the 11th, throwing everything he had left and winning the round. But it took it's toll as the fight was stopped in the 12th with Donaldson exhausted on the ropes and not fighting back. I had it 106-99 at the time of the stoppage. On the undercard WW - Joe Walcott (18/6) (21-13-3) KO10 Al Neill (9/18) (7-10-2) HW - Frank Childs (23/11) (21-14-5) SD10 Jimmy Elliot (44/51) (24-7-3) LH - John Flood (23/11) (9-10-1) TKO10 Jack Beauscholte (25/25) (8-10-2) LW - Jewey Cooke (23/23) (12-7-3) UD10 Harry Stone (38/41) (8-7-1) (stone at pre) HW - Syd Hughes (club) (9-12-1) KO8 Gunner White (club) (3-19-2) (white at post in this club fight)

12-16-2005, 05:20 PM	#936
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Interesting how Fitz is doing well in your uni. Since he made the switch from Heavy to Middleweight in mine he has gone downhill fast. The Dobbs file you were after is on my WBF thread.

12-17-2005, 12:23 PM	#940
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold. December 7, 1909 WW - Charley Hitte (11/11) (16-11) TKO10 Jack Willis (15/19) (87-85 willis) Willis broke his hand and quit at the start of the 10th. LW - Leach Cross (25/17) (10-8-1) UD10 Young Erne (24/38) (12-4) (erne at pre) (96-95 Cross) HW - Billy Smith (40/19) (21-13-1) KO8 Dick O'Brien (45/56) (10-7-1) LH - James Barry (UR/17) (9-5-1) KO1 Rough Thompson (UR/14) (10-5) (both at pre) LH - Dan Dwyer (club) (15-17-1) SD8 Sam Campbell (UR) (8-3) (dwyer at post, campbell at pre for this club fight) WW - Scaldy Bill Quinn (club) (7-12-2) KO1 Billy Gardner (club) (9-18-3) (gardner at post for this club fight)