Louisville Boxing Association - Page 44

mh2365 · 11-12-2005, 09:55 AM

The beginners went 51-9-4 against the TC's. Once again slow month for fighters moving up due to the new aging routine. A couple hit their max # for fights though so they move up.

MW - Isadore Strauss (5-2-2)
WW - Billy West (3-2-3)

mh2365 · 11-14-2005, 04:19 PM

Slow month after a great August.

MW - (LBA) Jack Dempsey (32-4) vs Frank Klaus (10) (14-6-1) Met once in 1907 with Dempsey winning a UD10

BW - (LBA) Al Delmont (17-7-2) vs Frankie Neil (7) (18-17-3) The two have never met, Neil go himself back in contention by going 8-2-1 over his last 11 fights and 5-0-1 over his last 6

mh2365 · 11-15-2005, 04:57 AM

39 main division pre or post primes got to fight TC's this month. They went 34-4-1. Currently working on the club division.

mh2365 · 11-16-2005, 05:40 AM

69 pre/post/end club fighters got to fight TC's this month they went 63-5-1 against them .... onto the fight cards

mh2365 · 11-16-2005, 11:01 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 2nd, 1909

HW - Jack Root (18/16) (31-9-1) UD10 Tommy Dugan (50/44) (11-6)
LH - Joe Butler (3/2) (29-7-2) DRAW10 Larry Temple (11/13) (14-3-1) (for some reason butler got 550 points and Temple got -340)
WW - Kid Graves (5/5) (15-2-2) Ud10 Arthur Evernden (UR) (8-2) (evernden at pre)
LW - Harry Lyons (11/12) (28-14-1) UD10 Eddie Connolly (31/32) (8-9-2)
MW - Johnny Douglas (UR) (7-0-2) MD8 Jim Hall (club) (15-19-2) (douglas at pre, Hall at post for this club fight)
WW - Billy Devine (club) (5-18-4) DRAW10 Jim Judge (club) (8-12-1) (devine at post for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-16-2005, 06:17 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 5, 1909

LH - Jack Dillon (UR) (11-0) UD10 Patsy Cardiff (10/7) (12-12)(dillon at pre)
WW - Kyle Whitney (10/10) MD10 Jimmy Clabby (13/15) (7-6-5)
FW - Young Corbett (11/7) TKO3 Monk Newsboy (UR) (8-6) (newsboy at pre)
HW - Marvin Hart (47/56) (15-15-4) DRAW10 Tom Allen (10/2) (20-11-1) (allen 600 pp for the draw, Hart -507 maddening ??????)
LW - Billy Young (UR) (7-2) MD8 Young Otto (club) (8-17-4) (young at pre, otto at post for this club fight)
HW - Morris Grant (club) (13-17-5) TKO7 Tug Wilson (club) (13-19-1) (Grant at post, Wilson at end for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-17-2005, 05:23 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 8, 1909

MW - Hugo Kelly (18/18) (16-14-1) UD10 Charles Goff (31/28) (12-9-2)
LW - Arthur Chambers (10/6) (13-2-1) TKO2 Hughie Megehan (UR) (10-3) (megehan at pre)
FW - Percy Cove (UR) (9-2-1) KO8 Martin Flaherty (18/16) (8-10-3) (cove at pre)
HW - Stockings Conroy (60/52) (8-5-3) UD10 Jack Marks (UR/46) (6-8-1) (marks at pre)
LW - Gus Brown (UR) (6-2-1) TKO7 Jack Dougherty (UR) (5-4-3) (both at pre for this club fight)
HW - Syd Hughes (club) (7-12-1) MD8 Jim Johnson (UR) (5-2-2) (johnson at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-17-2005, 10:13 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 11, 1909

LW - Ad Wolgast (23/24) (11-8) UD10 Tim Callahan (UR) (9-4-1) (callahan at pre)
FW - Jerry Marshall (13/12) (9-6-1) KO6 Billy O'Donnell (26/24) (7-9-2)
FW - Johnny Griffin (UR) (11-1-1) UD10 Sammy Kelly (23/22) (8-8-1) (Griffin at pre)
HW - George Godfrey (45/34) (21-14-2) KO3 Billy Wilson (55/50) (14-18-1) (wilson at post)
LW - Gus Brown (UR) (6-2-1) TKO7 Freddie Steele (UR) (6-2) (both at pre for this club fight)
LH - Dan Dwyer (club) (14-17-1) DRAW8 Sailor Charles Brown (UR) (6-5-2) (dwyer at post, brown at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-18-2005, 05:05 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 14, 1909

HW - Jim Flynn (28/28) (17-9) TKO4 Jim McCormick (UR) (12-2) (mccormick at pre)
LH - John Flood (16/16) (8-10-1) UD10 Jim Dunn (UR) (9-5) (dunn at pre)
FW - Young Griffo (9/10) (28-7-6) TKO9 Billy Ross (UR/18) (6-9) (ross at pre)
HW - Ed Dunkhorst (16/12) (21-13-3) KO5 Billy McColl (13/14) (9-11) (weight adjusted)
FW - Kid Herman Landfield (club) (8-12-2) MD8 Jim Keeley (UR) (5-6-2) (landfield at post, keeley at pre for this club fight)
LH - Arthur Mclaglen (UR) (6-2) UD8 Tom Parks (UR) (5-5-1) (both at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-18-2005, 05:55 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 17, 1909

LH - Georges Carpentier (UR) (9-1) UD10 Jack Sullivan (5/6) (18-17-1) (carpentier at pre)
Fw - Benny Yanger (UR) (12-1) SD10 Benny Soloman (3/3) (13-2-2) (yanger at pre)
BW - Billy Rotchford (17/11) (12-11) UD10 Billy James (ur/18) (7-6-2) (james at pre)
MW - Kid Broad (UR) (11-2) UD10 Jack Fitzgerald (UR/25) (6-8-1) (both at pre)
FW - Joe Bernstein (club) (12-13-4) UD8 Charles Slusher (UR) (6-5-1) (bernstein at post, slusher at pre for this club fight)
LH - PJ Rentzler (club) (13-18-3) UD8 Louis Lester (UR) (4-7-1) (rentzler at post, Lester at pre for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-18-2005, 12:37 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 20, 1909

Frankie Neil (7/ch) (19-17-3) scored a decisive UD15 over Al Delmont (ch/1) (17-8-2) to win the WBA Bantamweight title.

Neil becomes the first fighter to claw his way back from the club division to win a title. He has been to the club ranks not once but twice. He first dropped to club in Sept of 1901 with a record of 1-6-1. But then had a stretch between 1903 and 1905 where he went 8-1-1 to even his record at 10-10-2 and move back into the main division.

He secured a title shot against Billy Plimmer and lost a UD15. He lost 5 in a row to drop to 10-15-2 and back into the club division. In June of 1908 he was 13-17-2, but since that date he is 6-0-1.

He dominated Delmont (rated 10 to Neil's 6) from the opening bell. He caused Delmont's eye to swell in the 4th and had a stretch where he outpointed Delmont for 7 straight rounds.

Delmont came in at top condition but could never get any kind of spurt going.

I had it 147-141. Marcus Heinsohn, ringside, had it 147-140. The official judges had it 146-138/147-139/144-140.

On the undercard

BW - Harry Tenney (12/13) (12-5-2) UD10 Jack Madden (UR) (8-2) (Madden at pre)
FLY - Kid Murphy (2/2) (16-2-1) UD10 Sid Smith (ur/3) (9-4-2) (smith at pre, 3 fighters ranked at Fly now, when there are 8 I will have a title fight)
WW - Jack Daly (30/31) (10-6-1) TKO3 Cy Flynn (ur/21) (9-6) (flynn at pre, Daly stepped up to WW)
FW - Jerry Barnett (UR) (8-4) SD8 Eddie Pierce (ur) (7-4-1) (both at pre for this club fight)
MW - James Payne (UR) (6-3) UD8 WC McClellan (club) (13-25-4) (payne at pre, mcclellan at end for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-18-2005, 03:29 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 23, 1909

HW - Frank Slavin (46/32) (22-13-1) UD10 Dave Campbell (UR) (9-2) (campbell at pre)
WW - Honey Mellody (4/4) (17-14) UD10 Jack Goodman (UR) (7-4-3) (goodman at pre)
FW - Tommy White (17/14) (10-6-3) UD10 Abe Willis (UR/24) (9-4-2) (willis at pre)
HW - James Corbett (15/17) (28-8-3) DRAW10 Peter Courtney (ur/11) (11-3-1) (courtney at pre)
HW - J. Black (ur) (8-4) TKO8 Jack Langley (UR) (6-5-1) (both at pre for this club fight)
HW - Mike Brennan (club) (14-18) TKO3 William Miller (club) (12-18-3) (both at post for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-18-2005, 04:03 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 26, 1909

Frank Klaus (10/ch) (15-6-1) scored a TKO11 over Jack Dempsey NP (ch/9) (32-5) to win the WBA Middleweight title.

Dempsey dominated this fight winning 6 out of the first 7 rounds. Klaus started to land in the 8th and continued landing easily in the 9th and 10th. Klaus opened an nasty gash over the right eye of Dempsey in the 10th.

Dempsey started carrying his hands low and couldn't protect the eye. The cut was re-opened and then worsened in the 11th and the ring doctor called it off.

I had it 97-93 Dempsey at the time. Javier Flores, ringside expert, had it 98-93 Dempsey.

On the undercard

BW - Dave Sullivan (UR) (11-2-1) MD10 Watty Austin (15/17) (11-12-3) (sullivan at pre)
BW - Hank Brennan (UR/18) (9-5-1) KO5 Jimmy Williams (UR) (7-5-2) (both at pre)
LW - Eddie Hanlon (1/1) (12-3-1) UD10 George Siddons (UR) (8-5) (siddons at pre)
BW - Joe Bertrand (UR) (6-2-2) UD8 Harry Dally (UR) (6-2-1) (both at pre for this club fight)
WW - Buddy Ryan (club) (11-12) TKO6 Frank Solomon (club) (2-20) (solomon at post)

mh2365 · 11-19-2005, 09:36 AM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

September 29, 1909

WW - Terry Martin (11/3) (14-2-1) UD10 William Sullivan (20/20) (9-5-2)
HW - Joe Coburn (24/23) (21-11-4) UD10 Oliver Williams (17/25) (9-6-2)
MW - Jack Williams (28/30) (13-5-2) TKO8 Jack Fogarty (UR) (10-3-1) (fogarty at pre)
FW - Jimmy Briggs (5/3) (12-10-5) TKO8 Eddie Lenny (21/22) (8-7-4) (Briggs six straight fights without a loss (5-0-1))
BW - Tommy Feltz (club) (12-19-2) UD8 Tommy Lewis (UR) (4-5-2) (feltz at post, lewis at pre, lewis stepped up from FLY for this club fight)
LW - Billy Edwards (club) (17-20-4) SD10 Jimmy Britt (club) (8-15-4) (both at post for this club fight)

mh2365 · 11-19-2005, 09:55 AM

Lots of fights, debut rankings and division movement this month. Both title fights were won by the challenger.

Movement (all fighters from club to main unless noted)

HW - Steve O'Donnell (8-0-1), Jimmy Ryan (8-1), J. Black (8-4)
LH - Howard Morrow (8-2), Sailor Brown (6-5-2)
MW - Jeff Clarke (8-1), Johnny Reagan (8-0-1), Bob Turnball (8-0-1)
WW - Goerge Green (8-0-1), Fighting Kennedy (7-6)
LW - Billy Dacey (15-15-2), Jack Hopper (8-2), Jacob Hyams (8-2), Jack Keenan (8-1-1), Paul Koehler (8-0), Jabez White (8-1-1)
FW - Boss Edwards (7-6), Tommy Love (8-2-3), Frank Robson (8-1-4), Jim Keeley (5-6-2), Jerry Barnett (8-4)
BW - Young Johnson (6-6-1), Johnny Ritchie (8-1-2)
FLY - Joe McGrath (8-1-1)

Debut Rankings

HW - Jim Harvey (9-5-1) A46/C49/F47
HW - Jack Marks (6-8-1) A49/C51/F49
HW - Billy Ross (6-9) A60/C62/F61
HW - Peter Courtney (11-3-1) A11/C11/F10
MW - Kid Locke (10-5) A13/C9
MW - Jack Fitzgerald (6-8-1) A25/C24
WW - Cy Flynn (9-6) A21/C21
WW - Young Loughrey (8-5-2) A16/C15
WW - Billy Smith (14-1) A4/C3
FW - Cal McCarthy (12-3) A9/C11
FW - Abe Willis (9-4-2) A24/C25
BW - Hank Brennan (9-5-1) A18/C18
BW - Billy James (7-6-2) A19/C19
FLY - Sid Smith (9-4-2) A2/C2

Monthly fights attached

mh2365 · 11-21-2005, 05:13 AM

Not a very good month for the beginners as they went 46-13-4 against the TC's. No one moved up to club.

mh2365 · 11-21-2005, 01:03 PM

40 pre, post and end fighters were selected to face TC's this month and they went 36-2-2.

mh2365 · 11-21-2005, 01:08 PM

5 title fights this month, couple of good ones and a couple of stinkers.

HW - (IBF) Peter Jackson (30-5-1) vs Jack Burns (#5) (15-5-1) (first meeting)
LH - (WBC) Bob Fitzsimmons (32-4) vs Fred Russell (#3) (13-5) (first meeting)
WW - (WBC) Peter Jackson (22-3) vs Billy Myer (#7) (24-7-3) (rematch of disqualification bout back in May of 1909, Jackson has the longest current winning streak with 20)
LW - (WBA) Jack McAuliffe (30-5-2) vs Abe Attell (#4) (32-8-1) (first meeting)
BW - (WBC) George Dixon (27-7-1) vs Cockney Cohen (#20) (8-6-2) (basically a tune up fight, Cohen was the only qualified fighter)

mh2365 · 11-23-2005, 10:43 PM

53 pre, post or end club fighters were selected to face TC's this month and they went 42-5-6 against them.

On to the October fight cards.

mh2365 · 11-24-2005, 01:15 PM

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization.

October 2, 1909

HW - John Sullivan (8/8) (31-7) TKO4 Charlie Wilson (63/51) (8-8-3)
MW - Jerry Jerome (UR) (12-2) TKO4 Jack Moffat (23/21) (11-11) (jerome at pre)
LW - Kid McPartland (20/13) (16-16-4) UD10 Jabez White (8-2-1) (white at pre)
HW - Billy Smith (58/34) (20-13-1) KO8 Oliver Williams (25/35) (9-7-2)
HW - George Perry (56/53) (8-4-4) KO10 Sid Russell (39/55) (8-8-1)
MW - Tom Henry (UR) (4-3-3) DRAW8 Dave Kurtz (UR) (5-6-2) (both at pre for this club fight)

11-12-2005, 09:55 AM	#861
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Beginners September 1909 The beginners went 51-9-4 against the TC's. Once again slow month for fighters moving up due to the new aging routine. A couple hit their max # for fights though so they move up. MW - Isadore Strauss (5-2-2) WW - Billy West (3-2-3)

11-14-2005, 04:19 PM	#862
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	September 1909 Title fights Slow month after a great August. MW - (LBA) Jack Dempsey (32-4) vs Frank Klaus (10) (14-6-1) Met once in 1907 with Dempsey winning a UD10 BW - (LBA) Al Delmont (17-7-2) vs Frankie Neil (7) (18-17-3) The two have never met, Neil go himself back in contention by going 8-2-1 over his last 11 fights and 5-0-1 over his last 6

11-15-2005, 04:57 AM	#863
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Main division vs TC's for September 39 main division pre or post primes got to fight TC's this month. They went 34-4-1. Currently working on the club division.

11-16-2005, 05:40 AM	#864
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Club's vs Tc's September 1909 69 pre/post/end club fighters got to fight TC's this month they went 63-5-1 against them .... onto the fight cards

11-18-2005, 12:37 PM	#871
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Frankie Neil stuns the LBA taking title from Delmont I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 20, 1909 Frankie Neil (7/ch) (19-17-3) scored a decisive UD15 over Al Delmont (ch/1) (17-8-2) to win the WBA Bantamweight title. Neil becomes the first fighter to claw his way back from the club division to win a title. He has been to the club ranks not once but twice. He first dropped to club in Sept of 1901 with a record of 1-6-1. But then had a stretch between 1903 and 1905 where he went 8-1-1 to even his record at 10-10-2 and move back into the main division. He secured a title shot against Billy Plimmer and lost a UD15. He lost 5 in a row to drop to 10-15-2 and back into the club division. In June of 1908 he was 13-17-2, but since that date he is 6-0-1. He dominated Delmont (rated 10 to Neil's 6) from the opening bell. He caused Delmont's eye to swell in the 4th and had a stretch where he outpointed Delmont for 7 straight rounds. Delmont came in at top condition but could never get any kind of spurt going. I had it 147-141. Marcus Heinsohn, ringside, had it 147-140. The official judges had it 146-138/147-139/144-140. On the undercard BW - Harry Tenney (12/13) (12-5-2) UD10 Jack Madden (UR) (8-2) (Madden at pre) FLY - Kid Murphy (2/2) (16-2-1) UD10 Sid Smith (ur/3) (9-4-2) (smith at pre, 3 fighters ranked at Fly now, when there are 8 I will have a title fight) WW - Jack Daly (30/31) (10-6-1) TKO3 Cy Flynn (ur/21) (9-6) (flynn at pre, Daly stepped up to WW) FW - Jerry Barnett (UR) (8-4) SD8 Eddie Pierce (ur) (7-4-1) (both at pre for this club fight) MW - James Payne (UR) (6-3) UD8 WC McClellan (club) (13-25-4) (payne at pre, mcclellan at end for this club fight)

11-16-2005, 11:01 AM	#865
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 2nd, 1909 HW - Jack Root (18/16) (31-9-1) UD10 Tommy Dugan (50/44) (11-6) LH - Joe Butler (3/2) (29-7-2) DRAW10 Larry Temple (11/13) (14-3-1) (for some reason butler got 550 points and Temple got -340) WW - Kid Graves (5/5) (15-2-2) Ud10 Arthur Evernden (UR) (8-2) (evernden at pre) LW - Harry Lyons (11/12) (28-14-1) UD10 Eddie Connolly (31/32) (8-9-2) MW - Johnny Douglas (UR) (7-0-2) MD8 Jim Hall (club) (15-19-2) (douglas at pre, Hall at post for this club fight) WW - Billy Devine (club) (5-18-4) DRAW10 Jim Judge (club) (8-12-1) (devine at post for this club fight)

11-16-2005, 06:17 PM	#866
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 5, 1909 LH - Jack Dillon (UR) (11-0) UD10 Patsy Cardiff (10/7) (12-12)(dillon at pre) WW - Kyle Whitney (10/10) MD10 Jimmy Clabby (13/15) (7-6-5) FW - Young Corbett (11/7) TKO3 Monk Newsboy (UR) (8-6) (newsboy at pre) HW - Marvin Hart (47/56) (15-15-4) DRAW10 Tom Allen (10/2) (20-11-1) (allen 600 pp for the draw, Hart -507 maddening ??????) LW - Billy Young (UR) (7-2) MD8 Young Otto (club) (8-17-4) (young at pre, otto at post for this club fight) HW - Morris Grant (club) (13-17-5) TKO7 Tug Wilson (club) (13-19-1) (Grant at post, Wilson at end for this club fight)

11-17-2005, 05:23 AM	#867
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 8, 1909 MW - Hugo Kelly (18/18) (16-14-1) UD10 Charles Goff (31/28) (12-9-2) LW - Arthur Chambers (10/6) (13-2-1) TKO2 Hughie Megehan (UR) (10-3) (megehan at pre) FW - Percy Cove (UR) (9-2-1) KO8 Martin Flaherty (18/16) (8-10-3) (cove at pre) HW - Stockings Conroy (60/52) (8-5-3) UD10 Jack Marks (UR/46) (6-8-1) (marks at pre) LW - Gus Brown (UR) (6-2-1) TKO7 Jack Dougherty (UR) (5-4-3) (both at pre for this club fight) HW - Syd Hughes (club) (7-12-1) MD8 Jim Johnson (UR) (5-2-2) (johnson at pre for this club fight)

11-17-2005, 10:13 AM	#868
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 11, 1909 LW - Ad Wolgast (23/24) (11-8) UD10 Tim Callahan (UR) (9-4-1) (callahan at pre) FW - Jerry Marshall (13/12) (9-6-1) KO6 Billy O'Donnell (26/24) (7-9-2) FW - Johnny Griffin (UR) (11-1-1) UD10 Sammy Kelly (23/22) (8-8-1) (Griffin at pre) HW - George Godfrey (45/34) (21-14-2) KO3 Billy Wilson (55/50) (14-18-1) (wilson at post) LW - Gus Brown (UR) (6-2-1) TKO7 Freddie Steele (UR) (6-2) (both at pre for this club fight) LH - Dan Dwyer (club) (14-17-1) DRAW8 Sailor Charles Brown (UR) (6-5-2) (dwyer at post, brown at pre for this club fight)

11-18-2005, 05:05 AM	#869
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 14, 1909 HW - Jim Flynn (28/28) (17-9) TKO4 Jim McCormick (UR) (12-2) (mccormick at pre) LH - John Flood (16/16) (8-10-1) UD10 Jim Dunn (UR) (9-5) (dunn at pre) FW - Young Griffo (9/10) (28-7-6) TKO9 Billy Ross (UR/18) (6-9) (ross at pre) HW - Ed Dunkhorst (16/12) (21-13-3) KO5 Billy McColl (13/14) (9-11) (weight adjusted) FW - Kid Herman Landfield (club) (8-12-2) MD8 Jim Keeley (UR) (5-6-2) (landfield at post, keeley at pre for this club fight) LH - Arthur Mclaglen (UR) (6-2) UD8 Tom Parks (UR) (5-5-1) (both at pre for this club fight)

11-18-2005, 05:55 AM	#870
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 17, 1909 LH - Georges Carpentier (UR) (9-1) UD10 Jack Sullivan (5/6) (18-17-1) (carpentier at pre) Fw - Benny Yanger (UR) (12-1) SD10 Benny Soloman (3/3) (13-2-2) (yanger at pre) BW - Billy Rotchford (17/11) (12-11) UD10 Billy James (ur/18) (7-6-2) (james at pre) MW - Kid Broad (UR) (11-2) UD10 Jack Fitzgerald (UR/25) (6-8-1) (both at pre) FW - Joe Bernstein (club) (12-13-4) UD8 Charles Slusher (UR) (6-5-1) (bernstein at post, slusher at pre for this club fight) LH - PJ Rentzler (club) (13-18-3) UD8 Louis Lester (UR) (4-7-1) (rentzler at post, Lester at pre for this club fight)

11-18-2005, 03:29 PM	#872
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 23, 1909 HW - Frank Slavin (46/32) (22-13-1) UD10 Dave Campbell (UR) (9-2) (campbell at pre) WW - Honey Mellody (4/4) (17-14) UD10 Jack Goodman (UR) (7-4-3) (goodman at pre) FW - Tommy White (17/14) (10-6-3) UD10 Abe Willis (UR/24) (9-4-2) (willis at pre) HW - James Corbett (15/17) (28-8-3) DRAW10 Peter Courtney (ur/11) (11-3-1) (courtney at pre) HW - J. Black (ur) (8-4) TKO8 Jack Langley (UR) (6-5-1) (both at pre for this club fight) HW - Mike Brennan (club) (14-18) TKO3 William Miller (club) (12-18-3) (both at post for this club fight)

11-18-2005, 04:03 PM	#873
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Klaus upsets Dempsey I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 26, 1909 Frank Klaus (10/ch) (15-6-1) scored a TKO11 over Jack Dempsey NP (ch/9) (32-5) to win the WBA Middleweight title. Dempsey dominated this fight winning 6 out of the first 7 rounds. Klaus started to land in the 8th and continued landing easily in the 9th and 10th. Klaus opened an nasty gash over the right eye of Dempsey in the 10th. Dempsey started carrying his hands low and couldn't protect the eye. The cut was re-opened and then worsened in the 11th and the ring doctor called it off. I had it 97-93 Dempsey at the time. Javier Flores, ringside expert, had it 98-93 Dempsey. On the undercard BW - Dave Sullivan (UR) (11-2-1) MD10 Watty Austin (15/17) (11-12-3) (sullivan at pre) BW - Hank Brennan (UR/18) (9-5-1) KO5 Jimmy Williams (UR) (7-5-2) (both at pre) LW - Eddie Hanlon (1/1) (12-3-1) UD10 George Siddons (UR) (8-5) (siddons at pre) BW - Joe Bertrand (UR) (6-2-2) UD8 Harry Dally (UR) (6-2-1) (both at pre for this club fight) WW - Buddy Ryan (club) (11-12) TKO6 Frank Solomon (club) (2-20) (solomon at post)

11-19-2005, 09:36 AM	#874
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. September 29, 1909 WW - Terry Martin (11/3) (14-2-1) UD10 William Sullivan (20/20) (9-5-2) HW - Joe Coburn (24/23) (21-11-4) UD10 Oliver Williams (17/25) (9-6-2) MW - Jack Williams (28/30) (13-5-2) TKO8 Jack Fogarty (UR) (10-3-1) (fogarty at pre) FW - Jimmy Briggs (5/3) (12-10-5) TKO8 Eddie Lenny (21/22) (8-7-4) (Briggs six straight fights without a loss (5-0-1)) BW - Tommy Feltz (club) (12-19-2) UD8 Tommy Lewis (UR) (4-5-2) (feltz at post, lewis at pre, lewis stepped up from FLY for this club fight) LW - Billy Edwards (club) (17-20-4) SD10 Jimmy Britt (club) (8-15-4) (both at post for this club fight)

11-19-2005, 09:55 AM	#875
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of September 1909 Lots of fights, debut rankings and division movement this month. Both title fights were won by the challenger. Movement (all fighters from club to main unless noted) HW - Steve O'Donnell (8-0-1), Jimmy Ryan (8-1), J. Black (8-4) LH - Howard Morrow (8-2), Sailor Brown (6-5-2) MW - Jeff Clarke (8-1), Johnny Reagan (8-0-1), Bob Turnball (8-0-1) WW - Goerge Green (8-0-1), Fighting Kennedy (7-6) LW - Billy Dacey (15-15-2), Jack Hopper (8-2), Jacob Hyams (8-2), Jack Keenan (8-1-1), Paul Koehler (8-0), Jabez White (8-1-1) FW - Boss Edwards (7-6), Tommy Love (8-2-3), Frank Robson (8-1-4), Jim Keeley (5-6-2), Jerry Barnett (8-4) BW - Young Johnson (6-6-1), Johnny Ritchie (8-1-2) FLY - Joe McGrath (8-1-1) Debut Rankings HW - Jim Harvey (9-5-1) A46/C49/F47 HW - Jack Marks (6-8-1) A49/C51/F49 HW - Billy Ross (6-9) A60/C62/F61 HW - Peter Courtney (11-3-1) A11/C11/F10 MW - Kid Locke (10-5) A13/C9 MW - Jack Fitzgerald (6-8-1) A25/C24 WW - Cy Flynn (9-6) A21/C21 WW - Young Loughrey (8-5-2) A16/C15 WW - Billy Smith (14-1) A4/C3 FW - Cal McCarthy (12-3) A9/C11 FW - Abe Willis (9-4-2) A24/C25 BW - Hank Brennan (9-5-1) A18/C18 BW - Billy James (7-6-2) A19/C19 FLY - Sid Smith (9-4-2) A2/C2 Monthly fights attached Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:08 PM.

11-21-2005, 05:13 AM	#876
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	October 1909 beginners Not a very good month for the beginners as they went 46-13-4 against the TC's. No one moved up to club.

11-21-2005, 01:03 PM	#877
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	October 1909 - main vs TC's 40 pre, post and end fighters were selected to face TC's this month and they went 36-2-2.

11-21-2005, 01:08 PM	#878
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	October 1909 title fights 5 title fights this month, couple of good ones and a couple of stinkers. HW - (IBF) Peter Jackson (30-5-1) vs Jack Burns (#5) (15-5-1) (first meeting) LH - (WBC) Bob Fitzsimmons (32-4) vs Fred Russell (#3) (13-5) (first meeting) WW - (WBC) Peter Jackson (22-3) vs Billy Myer (#7) (24-7-3) (rematch of disqualification bout back in May of 1909, Jackson has the longest current winning streak with 20) LW - (WBA) Jack McAuliffe (30-5-2) vs Abe Attell (#4) (32-8-1) (first meeting) BW - (WBC) George Dixon (27-7-1) vs Cockney Cohen (#20) (8-6-2) (basically a tune up fight, Cohen was the only qualified fighter)

11-23-2005, 10:43 PM	#879
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	October 1909 club fighters vs TC's 53 pre, post or end club fighters were selected to face TC's this month and they went 42-5-6 against them. On to the October fight cards.

11-24-2005, 01:15 PM	#880
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. October 2, 1909 HW - John Sullivan (8/8) (31-7) TKO4 Charlie Wilson (63/51) (8-8-3) MW - Jerry Jerome (UR) (12-2) TKO4 Jack Moffat (23/21) (11-11) (jerome at pre) LW - Kid McPartland (20/13) (16-16-4) UD10 Jabez White (8-2-1) (white at pre) HW - Billy Smith (58/34) (20-13-1) KO8 Oliver Williams (25/35) (9-7-2) HW - George Perry (56/53) (8-4-4) KO10 Sid Russell (39/55) (8-8-1) MW - Tom Henry (UR) (4-3-3) DRAW8 Dave Kurtz (UR) (5-6-2) (both at pre for this club fight)