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Bakersfield, CA, USA Lars Olov Norling – HW(14-11-4) vs. Don Koontz – HW (10-3-0) Lars Olov Norling - Rating 1 Sweden Heavyweight 1961-67 14 wins / 13 losses / 4 draws / 4 KO Hometown: Stockholm, Sweden Birthplace: Traryd Manager: Sid Flaherty, Bill Hamitt Rating by: Rocco Del SEsto Won a 6 round decision over Ray Patterson in Patterson's 4th career fight. Fought a 6 round technical draw with Manuel Ramos, awarded the win in boxRec. Lost fights to Patterson, Giorgio Masteghin,Franco DePiccoli, Wilhelm von Homburg, Buddy Turman, Tony Doyle, Billy Walker, Manuel Ramos, Don Koontz and Boone Kirkman. He started out his career actually with 3 fights in the USA with a 1-1-1 record. He then went back home and fought in Sweden exclusively except for one fight in Finland and 2 in Denmark from late 1961 through early 64 compiling a 11-3-2 record.Then in April 1964 he lost a 6 round decision to Ray Patterson. That was the start of a 2-9-0 skid in his career the rest of the way. The only wins were against Karl-Heinz Troche and Manuel Ramos. The Ramos fight, in December 1965, there was an accidental head-butt and with Norling leading 3-2 on all cards up to the 6th round, referee George Latka raised Lars hand as the winner under California rules (this was the first of a series of fights by Norling back in the USA at the end of his career). Had Ramos been leading it would have been declared a technical draw. Most of the names mentioned above were part of those 9 losses. I actually rated and posted Norling some time ago here in this thread, but decided to go ahead and repost him with a little more detail in his bio. Don Koontz - Rating 1 USA Heavyweight 1964-67,71 11 wins / 5 losses / 0 draws / 5 KO Hometown: Bakersfield, CA Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto Through early 1966 Koonts won his first 9 fights, 5 of them stoppages. His first career fight was a 2nd round KO of Bert Leroy Birmingham who was fighting for the first time also. He beat Dave Centi(11-15-0,3KO) twice in November 1965 then KO'd JP Spencer(2-5-0,1). Then is downhill from there fast for Koontz. In 1966 and 67 he won only 2 fights, over a Freeman Hardin in JUly 66 and a 10 round decision over Lars Olov Norling in Jan 67. He lost fights to Ski Goldstein, Ed Hurley, Manuel Ramos and Wayne Kindred in Feb 67. Koontz then was inactive until December 1971 when he came back to get knocked out in the 2nd round by Howard Smith. The fight.... For the Swede, Norling it’s getting near the end of the line actually with his career. He actually had started his career fighting in the USA with a 1-1-1 record in 3 fights back in 1961. He then traveled home to Sweden where he was modestly successful. This fight though here in Bakersfield finds him the midst of loosing 9 of his last 11 career fights, most of which was fought outside of Sweden in Italy, Germany and recently in the US again where he’s lost fights to Tony Doyle, Billy Walker and Manuel Ramos in 1966. For Don Koontz, he’s another HW with a short modest career that’s nearing it’s end. After a 9-0 start, he’s lost 3 of his last 4 fights against a bit more tougher competition, most recently suffering a 2nd round KO to Manuel Ramos back in October 1966 in Mexico. Koontz travels home here to Bakersfield for a 10 round match up with Norling. The two duel it out for the full 10 with Koontz managing to win the decision. The first couple of rounds are very close with two of the judges giving a 10-9 edge to Norling and the 3rd scoring it even and then all 3 scoring the 2nd round even 10-10. The 3rd round, Norling has the American beat. Norling has a 14-3 scoring advantage when right before the bell rings at the end of the round, Koontz lands a short clean cross that catches Norling and drops him at the bell. The Swede gets right back up but he’s clearly hurt by that cross and it turns the round from a win for Norling into a 10-8 loss on all 3 cards! Koontz then presses the action and wins the 4th and 5th rounds to pull himself back into the fight. Come the 6th though, he slows things up and Norling manages to gain himself and slight advantage in that round. The in the 7th round, about a 1:15 into it, Koontz drops Norling to the canvas again for the 2nd time, with another wicked cross to the head. This time Norling stays down until the 7th count. Somehow the Swede holds on and manages to stage a strong comeback in the 8th round, clearly outscoring Koontz in the round by incredibly one of the judges still scores the round to Koontz! Some home town boy scoring going on?! In round 9, both fighters just kind of act like they’ve both had enough of each other and this fight. Koontz hardly puts up any punches in the round as the same for Norling until Lars scores with a couple combinations at the end. The 10th round much the same, Koontz just trying not to loose the fight figuring I guess he had the judges in his pockets here at home. Lars wins the 9th and 10th with Koontz scoring very little in either round. But in the end it’s not enough to overcome the advantage of the 2 knockdowns scored by Koontz and the Bakersfield boxer wins a unanimous, though close scoring decision, 95-94, 96-94, 97-92. That 3rd judge gave 2 rounds to Koontz that the other 2 gave to Lars. |
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I do not think anyone has rated Frank Bell, my appologies if that isn't the case.
FRANK BELL HW Hometown - Barnoldswick, England, UK 17(11)-13-1 When Frank Bell was in the ring, someone was sure to go down. He was stopped by Jack Gardner, Ansell Baba Adams, Don Cockell and six others. The free swinging Bell knocked Emile Bentz out in two rounds and shocked an aging Tommy Farr in 1951 by putting the onetime Commonwealth Champ down in two. Frank lost two bids at the British Central Area Heavyweight Title to Ray Wilding; both losses were by TKO.
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Hometown - North Las Vegas, Nevada, USA 1(1)-0-0 Eastman comes from the world of Ultimate Fighting where he has a 6(3)-4-0 record through October, 2004. He is said to be a tough character that uses a wrestling style in the ring. He has power and determination on his side, but his age and boxing skills suggest that he does not have a big future in the prize ring.
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Born - U.S. Virgin Islands Hometown - West Side, New York, USA 5(1)-18-2 Stevens battled some rather unimpressive characters and fared rather poorly being stopped nine times over a 25 bout career. Stevens out pointed Light Heavy Macka Foley and drew with Lorenzo Zanon but had no other resume builders.
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Born - Knoxville, Tennesee, USA Hometoen - Paris, France 21(15)-10-0 Wilson was a hard hitting heavyweight that scored knockout victories over Paco Bueno, Jack London and Don Cockell. He fell apart quickly at the end, losing six of his final eight bouts. During that stretch, Wilson lost to Jimmy Bivins, Dan Bucceroni, Karel Sys and twice to Coley Wallace. He was stopped five times in 31 career bouts.
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1967 Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight Replay
01/20/67 Friday
Baltimore, MD, USA Prentice Snipes – HW (18-9-0) vs Hubert Hilton – HW (15-4-2) Prentice Snipes - USA Rating 1 Heavyweight 1961-67 18 wins / 10 losses / 0 draws / 8 KO Hometown: Miami, FL Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto Won his first 9 fights, all in 1961 beating Willie Johnson(20-35-2) twice, Jim Tillman(5-36-1) three times, Moses Walker(7-7-0), and Roosevelt Allen, Arthur Anderson and some guy listed in BoxRec as The Nichodemus, who were all fighting thier first fights. Prentice then lost 3 of his next 4 fights in 1962 loosing to Al Owens(9-6-1), Wendell Newton(18-11-5), and Ollie Wilson(20-43-0). He managed to beat a Junior Grant(4-11-2). That was all followed up with 5 straight wins, the last against Levi Forte in April 1963. Snipes then lost by 4th round KO to Tony Alongi, Ko'd Johnny Drew(17-10-1), was stopped by Chip Johnson(11-13-1), KO'd Jim Hanks another first time fighter, lost to Chip Johnson again then beat Willi JOhnson in June 1965. That set up another bout with Tony Alongi in August 1965. Alongi won a 10 round UD.The next month in September of 65, Snipes was KO'd in the 2nd round by Doug Jones. Snipes didn't fight again till Feb 1966 when Jerry Quarry KO'd him in the 5th round. It was almost a year then before Snipes fought again, a fight that proved to be the last of his career, in Jan 1967 as he faced Hubert Hilton. Hilton KO'd Prentice in the 3rd. Those 3 straight KO losses were enough for Snipes as he then hung up the gloves. Hilton, I'd posted earlier in this thread but will post again for anyone who does not have him. Hubert Hilton - USA Rating 5 Heavyweight 1963-69 19 wins / 10 losses / 2 draws / 12 KO Hometown: Jamaica, NY Trainer: Howard Davis Manager: Danny Faesta Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto Hilton fought from 1963 to 1969 compiling a 17-9-2(10KO) record when he then left the boxing scene for 9 years. He came back in January 1978 for 3 fights in 1978, winning the first 2 by KO and TKO but then he went up against Bob Stallings(24-27-0) and lost by KO in the 4th sending Hilton back into retirement for good. Hilton's career started 13-1-2 through August of 1965. A couple of noteable fights in that span were an 8 round draw with Billy Daniels, a 10 round decision over Johnny Prescott and and a 5th round TKO of Jack Bodell. Sanwiched in there were two wins over Joe Shelton. This all added up to Hilton being ranked 8th in the Ring Magazines 1965 yearly HW rankings. A fast rise to say the least in this boxer's career. With that high ranking came the opportunity to start meeting with some of the "elite" of the heavyweight boxing world. From Dec. 1965 thru March 1966 Hilton fought 3 straight fighters from the game, loosing a 10 round decision to Roberto Davila, a 2nd round TKO at the hands of Henry Cooper and an 8 round decision loss to Jimmy Ellis. After that let down, Hilton did manage to come back with straight victories over Mel Turnbow, Billy Joiner, Prentice Snipes and Santiago Alberto Lovell from Argentina who was 10-0 at the time and would go on to post a respectible 31-15-2. After the Lovell victory though in early 1967 Hilton then fought in succession over the next year, Oscar Bonavena, Piero Tomasoni, Carl Gizzi and Mac Foster loosing all of them. He didn't fight for a year after a 5th round KO to Foster, when he came back in the ring in January 1969 against Ray Anderson, a LHW who was 16-1-0 and who would fashion a 35-19-5(20KO) record in his time. Anderson KO'd Hilton in the 3rd. With that Hubert hung up the gloves until his abbreviated comeback 9 years later. The fight.... For Prentice Snipes, he’s at the end of the rope in his career. A modestly successful one here in the early/mid 60’s as far as W/L record goes. Has rarely faced any recognizable name opponents though until lately and those with poor results to say the least. In the past year and a half he’s fought only 3 times and lost all 3, a UD to Tony Alongi, and KO’s to Doug Jones and his most recent fight way back in Feb. 66, to Jerry Quarry. Hubert Hilton is probably at the peak of his career. He’s won his last two fights, stoppages of Mel Turnbow and Billy Joiner after suffering straight losses to Roberto Davila, Henry Cooper and Jimmy Ellis in the past year. He’s going to yet face some pretty big names in the heavyweight division here in the late 60’, Snipes was just no match for Hilton. He should have stayed out of the ring for good after the straight KO’s by Jones and Quarry. Instead he tried to come back almost a year later here in Baltimore, only to get knocked out in the 3rd round by Hilton. Our replay fight’s outcome was not too much different. The first 3 rounds Hilton just battered Snipes. Prentice could do little to defend himself. In the 4th round, Prentice tried to make some kind of fight of it coming out throwing a flury of punches hoping to land something here and there and actually does. By this time, Hilton I think had this look on of face of just wanting to get this fight done and be finished with this guy. At the 1:04 mark Hilton lands a devasting hook that came out of no where and sent Prentice down. Snipes managed to get up in an 8 count but his legs were wobbly and he looked to be finished. Hilton scores with another hook more from the outside, then works his way in leaning on Prentice then at the 1:50 mark Hilton lands another hook and Prentice folds like an accordion going down for good. 4th round KO for Hubert Hilton over Prentice Snipes at 2:02! |
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Hi Rocco,
I'd rated Prentice Snipes as well so I'll be interested to see what you have done with him. Mark |
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Had you posted him somewhere here or at cornerwork? I hadn't run across him. Let me know how my ratings compare to your's. Be interesting to know. Thanks Rocco |
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-- Had a win over Bonecrusher Smith in a 3 round fight. Lost a close one to Tony TNT Tubbs that same night. Lost another close on to Larry Donald in a 6 round bout. Went down and out in 2 to Jimmy Thunder.
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Hmmm well my snipes doesn't want to attach. The ratings were close, I had lower control factors but higher aggression and a higher punches landed percentage.
I've also rated two of snipes opponents, Chip Johnson and Johnny Pew both attached below. Mark |
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1967 Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight Replay
01/20/67 Friday
Zanesville, OH, USA Jack Rodgers – LHW (18-0-0) vs. Mert Brownfield – HW (6-6-0) Jack Rodgers - Rating 5 USA Light Heavyweight 1964-70 23 wins / 3 losses / 2 draws / 19 KO Hometown: Pittsburgh, PA Birthplace: Uniontown, PA Trainer: Charley Daniels A big puncher who knocked out all the competition around his local towns in eastern Ohio and western PA for a 3 year period from 1964 through mid 1967. During that time he amassed a 23-0-1 record along with one no contest. He was beating and knocking out guys like Tommy Sims, Ron Asher twice, Ted Hamilton twice, Jack McCracken twice, Larry McGee, Mert Brownfield, Johnny Otto and Ray Vega. In May 1967 he got a chance in a fight in Pittsburgh, PA against middleweight Joey Giardello who was winding down his career. Rodgers managed to pull out a 10 round unanimous decision! Maybe the opening of the door for Rogers to better competition outside PA? Not really so. In June of 67 he then fought a 10 round draw with Bill "Golden Boy" Nielsen, another fighter on the downward end of his career. Then after a 2 round KO win and a 4 round no contest (a supposed win by Rodgers on a foul was overruled by the Boxing Commission), Rodgers fought a rematch against Giardello, this time in Philadelphia. It was to be Rodgers first and only fight outside his local region. This fight,in November 1967 Giardello won a 10 round decision to hand Rodgers his first loss. The next month, Mert Brownfield then knocked Rogers out in the 6th round to bring an abrupt stop to Rodgers' career, at least for about a year and a half. Then in April 1969, Rodgers attempted to mount a comeback, but it amounted to no avail, as he lost an 8 round decision and then fought an 8 round draw more then a year later in July 1970. After that, Rodgers quit for good. Mert Brownfield - Rating 1 USA Heavyweight 1957-70 10 wins / 15 losses / 0 draws / 7 KO Hometown: Pittsburgh, PA Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto Won 6 of his first 7 fights (the one loss a 5th round KO to Bobby Stininato), then things fell apart as he fought off and and on through the 60's. Lost fights to Amos Johnson, Billy Joiner, Buster Mathis, Alvin (Blue) Lewis twice, Vic Brown twice, Jack Rodgers (Split 2 fights), Stininato a second time, and Chuck Wepner. In late 1968 and into 1969 he Mert managed to put 3 wins together beating Tony Ventura twice and Art Miller but then lost his last 4 career fights. The Fight.... Undefeated journeyman Light heavy Jack Rodgers takes on going nowhere local club heavyweight Mert Brownfield. Rodgers is a decent looking fighter packing some punch fighting out of eastern Ohio/western PA region. He never really gets a chance to fight his way out of his home grounds to something bigger. Brownfield couldn’t fight his way out even though you look at his record and you wonder how he got some of the fights that he did? The 8 round affair in 1967 ends in an 8 round decision victory for Rodgers. Our replay fight is a close one that goes back and forth in action being dominated by each fighter at various times. There’s no knockdowns though in the fight to give either one a decided advantage. In the end it’s a bit of surprise ending, at least as far as this spectator is concerned as heavyweight from Pittsburgh takes the victory with a split decision, 77-75, 77-75, 76-77. |
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