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Déjà Bru · 09-28-2022, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jg2977

Now that the Yankees have clinched the division title, will Judge's homerless streak finally end? This isn't the first time this season that Judge has had an extended homerless streak. I think it's the 4th such occurrence that is six games or more.

It would help if the opponents would pitch to him (4 walks last night). I understand the reasoning, personal and team, but it's hard to watch. I'll be happy when it's over (#62).

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Congratulations to the Pinstripes for stepping up to the plate with that 16-7 September Stretch drive.

And not a moment too soon. Now they have to keep it going and not tail off in these last anti-climatic regular season games.

monkeyman576 · 09-29-2022, 02:53 AM

I think it's a little ironic that Roger Maris Jr. says that he views Judge as the HR king if he gets to 62, considering the scrutiny that Maris himself had in having had to have 162 games to get to 61 vs. 154 for Ruth's 60. #NoAsterisks!

jg2977 · 09-29-2022, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I think it's a little ironic that Roger Maris Jr. says that he views Judge as the HR king if he gets to 62, considering the scrutiny that Maris himself had in having had to have 162 games to get to 61 vs. 154 for Ruth's 60. #NoAsterisks!

I'm in the class that considers 73 to be the home run record, as well as 762, and I feel that Bonds, McGwire and Sosa should be in the Hall of Fame.

Déjà Bru · 09-30-2022, 01:04 PM

The top guy is out of reach, but I wouldn't mind seeing Judge break up this unholy partnership with the devil.

Déjà Bru · 09-30-2022, 02:47 PM

That bum Ohtani (I'm kidding

) is in danger of taking the MVP away from Judge. I just read that he took a no-hitter into the eighth inning yesterday, and went 2-4 at the plate in the bargain.

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As a pitcher, Ohtani is 15-8 with a 2.35 E.R.A. and 213 strikeouts in 161 innings. Baseball Reference had credited his pitching with 6 wins above replacement through Thursday.
As a batter, he had hit .275 with 34 home runs, 94 runs batted in and 11 stolen bases, through Thursday. That added up to 3.8 WAR.

Added up, that's darned close to Judge's WAR which I believe I read is just north of 10.

Amazin69 · 09-30-2022, 06:41 PM

Ohtani's having an excellent season, but he could do that every year.

I think a Triple Crown and a historically-significant amount of HRs and the fact that Yankees are light-years (26.5 games) ahead of the Halos (the "V" is in the award for a reason) should give Aaron his due, if things hold up. JMO.

Westheim · 10-01-2022, 08:04 AM

Yeah yeah but if Ohtani draws a walk, he folds up all his armor and all his crap into a neat pile for the bat boy to carry away. I like that. MVP!

cephasjames · 10-01-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Ohtani's having an excellent season, but he could do that every year.

I think a Triple Crown and a historically-significant amount of HRs and the fact that Yankees are light-years (26.5 games) ahead of the Halos (the "V" is in the award for a reason) should give Aaron his due, if things hold up. JMO.

Yeah, Ohtani's year is fairly typical for him which means he'll probably have another year or so like this to earn himself an MVP. This is a unique year for Judge with a lot of special aspects to it that he probably won't repeat. That's what will put Judge over the top and earn him the MVP.

dsvitak · 10-01-2022, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

Yeah, Ohtani's year is fairly typical for him which means he'll probably have another year or so like this to earn himself an MVP. This is a unique year for Judge with a lot of special aspects to it that he probably won't repeat. That's what will put Judge over the top and earn him the MVP.

Judge needs to turn down the Yankees, and go play in Cincy, Wrigley, or Houston. Then, 80 bombs is possible.

Déjà Bru · 10-01-2022, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

Judge needs to turn down the Yankees, and go play in Cincy, Wrigley, or Houston. Then, 80 bombs is possible.

I doubt any of those locations. Scuttlebutt says he ends up on the West Coast, following homing instincts and massive amounts of money offered by SF or LA.

monkeyman576 · 10-01-2022, 04:27 PM

Saying that Ohtani doesn't deserve MVP because "he could do it every year" is crazy. They are being judged(pun intended) against each other, not themselves. Sounds like Yankee fans are making the case for Ohtani for us.

Déjà Bru · 10-01-2022, 05:09 PM

I doubt that A69 and cj are Yankees fans.

You may be right about Ohtani, but they are saying baseball writers will look at Ohtani winning last year, and probably winning again in the future, while Judge's season, while truly extraordinary, is probably his career year and therefore the sentimental choice for the award. Plus he is playing for a contender. Rightly or wrongly, he will probably be MVP.

Heh, you keep making the mistake of thinking that Yankee fans inhabit this thread. AFAIK, only myself and knightdreamer deserve that notoriety.

Amazin69 · 10-01-2022, 05:42 PM

Yes, this is a Yankees discussion thread. Even I can admit that the Yankees merit discussion.

(I've also been to the Mariners thread, to wish them well. Although I have restrained myself from going to the Tigers thread and thanking them for being the suckers, er, kind souls that stopped us from wasting more $$$ on Javy Baez.)

Déjà Bru · 10-01-2022, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Although I have restrained myself from going to the Tigers thread

I'm still miffed at them for sweeping the Yankees in the 2012 ALCS!

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Déjà Bru · 10-01-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

You may be right about Ohtani, but they are saying baseball writers will look at Ohtani winning last year, and probably winning again in the future, while Judge's season, while truly extraordinary, is probably his career year and therefore the sentimental choice for the award. Plus he is playing for a contender. Rightly or wrongly, he will probably be MVP.

I have to admit, though, Ohtani is pretty darned amazing.

First, take his batting:
.276 /.359/ .529/ .888 with 34 homers and 94 RBIs

Not too shabby for a position player. MVP contention, perhaps, by itself.

But then, add his pitching: 15-8, 2.35 ERA, and 1.03 WHIP. Definitely a Cy Young contender by itself, pitching for a team with a .452 record.

Wow.

monkeyman576 · 10-01-2022, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I have to admit, though, Ohtani is pretty darned amazing.

First, take his batting:
.276 /.359/ .529/ .88834 homers and 94 RBIs

Not too shabby for a position player. MVP contention, perhaps, by itself.

But then, add his pitching: 15-8, 2.35 ERA, and 1.03 WHIP. Definitely a Cy Young contender by itself, pitching for a team with a .452 record.

Wow.

I'm not saying Judge isn't having a historic year...just Ohtani is doing something that literally hasn't been done before.

cephasjames · 10-01-2022, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I'm not saying Judge isn't having a historic year...just Ohtani is doing something that literally hasn't been done before.

While you're correct, ESPN et al. hasn't been watching every single AB for Ohtani for the last couple of weeks. The media haven't been focused on Ohtani like they have been Judge. Rightly or wrongly, Judge this year, is the story. I could be wrong in the end, but I don't think I will be.

monkeyman576 · 10-01-2022, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

While you're correct, ESPN et al. hasn't been watching every single AB for Ohtani for the last couple of weeks. The media haven't been focused on Ohtani like they have been Judge. Rightly or wrongly, Judge this year, is the story. I could be wrong in the end, but I don't think I will be.

I think a little east coast bias is part of the reason for this. If Judge was playing for a first place Anaheim team and Ohtani was playing for a 4th place Yankees team I think the media would be focusing more on Ohtani. Not that the home run chase wouldn't be a big deal.

knightdreamer2k · 10-01-2022, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I think a little east coast bias is part of the reason for this. If Judge was playing for a first place Anaheim team and Ohtani was playing for a 4th place Yankees team I think the media would be focusing more on Ohtani. Not that the home run chase wouldn't be a big deal.

I don't know about East Coast bias but there is a big/popular market. Ohtani is having an amazing year and I could see him winning the MVP. My against him winning the MVP which has already be stated is that Ohtani is not on a winning team (no fault of his own), and Judge is. Even when looking at the Yankees lineup there is no one else producing like he is. You could put Rizzo and Stanton together and still have less of player than Judge.

Ohtani is something else though and boy is hard to measure his true value. Maybe they will both end up on the Giants soon as teammates.

Amazin69 · 10-04-2022, 06:51 PM

I was starting to wonder if Future Met Aaron Judge (just saying that to be mean; I can't see him leaving) is starting to press and wondered if it might be better just to sit him down, so as to let him decompress and get ready for the playoffs…

…and then I remembered that, in certain boroughs of NYC, the local team knows how to win the division, get five days off, and make the whole issue moot. Sorry; victim of my personal experience here.

Keep swinging, Aaron…you can rest while we're dying. (Sigh.)

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10-01-2022, 05:09 PM	#852
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,663	I doubt that A69 and cj are Yankees fans. You may be right about Ohtani, but they are saying baseball writers will look at Ohtani winning last year, and probably winning again in the future, while Judge's season, while truly extraordinary, is probably his career year and therefore the sentimental choice for the award. Plus he is playing for a contender. Rightly or wrongly, he will probably be MVP. Heh, you keep making the mistake of thinking that Yankee fans inhabit this thread. AFAIK, only myself and knightdreamer deserve that notoriety. __________________ - Bru Last edited by Déjà Bru; 10-01-2022 at 05:16 PM.

09-29-2022, 02:53 AM	#842
monkeyman576 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,525	I think it's a little ironic that Roger Maris Jr. says that he views Judge as the HR king if he gets to 62, considering the scrutiny that Maris himself had in having had to have 162 games to get to 61 vs. 154 for Ruth's 60. #NoAsterisks!

09-30-2022, 06:41 PM	#846
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,074 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Ohtani's having an excellent season, but he could do that every year. I think a Triple Crown and a historically-significant amount of HRs and the fact that Yankees are light-years (26.5 games) ahead of the Halos (the "V" is in the award for a reason) should give Aaron his due, if things hold up. JMO.

10-01-2022, 04:27 PM	#851
monkeyman576 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,525	Saying that Ohtani doesn't deserve MVP because "he could do it every year" is crazy. They are being judged(pun intended) against each other, not themselves. Sounds like Yankee fans are making the case for Ohtani for us.

10-01-2022, 05:42 PM	#853
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,074 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Yes, this is a Yankees discussion thread. Even I can admit that the Yankees merit discussion. (I've also been to the Mariners thread, to wish them well. Although I have restrained myself from going to the Tigers thread and thanking them for being the suckers, er, kind souls that stopped us from wasting more $$$ on Javy Baez.)

10-04-2022, 06:51 PM	#860
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,074 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	I was starting to wonder if Future Met Aaron Judge (just saying that to be mean; I can't see him leaving) is starting to press and wondered if it might be better just to sit him down, so as to let him decompress and get ready for the playoffs… …and then I remembered that, in certain boroughs of NYC, the local team knows how to win the division, get five days off, and make the whole issue moot. Sorry; victim of my personal experience here. Keep swinging, Aaron…you can rest while we're dying. (Sigh.)