A tragic loss to us all ...

[William4192]

or·ange ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrnj, r-)

The hue of that portion of the visible spectrum lying between red and yellow, evoked in the human observer by radiant energy with wavelengths of approximately 590 to 630 nanometers; any of a group of colors between red and yellow in hue, of medium lightness and moderate saturation.


Actually, on second thought and after doing some research, I have no idea what you mean by someone giving me orange and then giving me an apple.

[William4192]

Never mind I got ya. Right on!

or·ange ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrnj, r-)

1 a : a globose berry with a yellowish to reddish orange rind and a sweet edible pulp b : any of various rather small evergreen trees (genus Citrus) with ovate unifoliolate leaves, hard yellow wood, fragrant white flowers, and fruits that are oranges

[William4192]

Confused again:

Or·ange2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrnj, r-)

A city of southern California north-northeast of Santa Ana. It is a manufacturing center in a citrus-growing area. Population: 110,658.

[disposableheros]

Originally Posted by William4192

Confused again:

Or·ange2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrnj, r-)

A city of southern California north-northeast of Santa Ana. It is a manufacturing center in a citrus-growing area. Population: 110,658.

they have a great little old town area known as the Orange Circle (its a roundabout). 50's style drugstore w/ an old school ice cream parlor and an annual street fair w/ beer, food, and trinkets from around the world. good ****.

[BaseballMan]

i thought this thread was going to be about one of the great mod makers leaving us.
I am sorry the guy is having problems but to be honest its not a tragic loss to me. I mean i am not gonna worry about it. I can understand the need for help and a lot of the memebers will go out of their way to help but saying tragic loss to us all sounds like someone is trying to lay a guilt trip on everyone.

[andrewkay]

How about bananas and apples? I think that the word banana only means one thing doesn't it? I think bananas and apples would be a really good example of how to successfully set up OOTP wouldn't it?

[endgame]

Originally Posted by BaseballMan

i thought this thread was going to be about one of the great mod makers leaving us.
I am sorry the guy is having problems but to be honest its not a tragic loss to me. I mean i am not gonna worry about it. I can understand the need for help and a lot of the memebers will go out of their way to help but saying tragic loss to us all sounds like someone is trying to lay a guilt trip on everyone.

Preface: Not pointed directly at you BaseballMan. Your response was merely a convenient platform from which to base my thoughts.

And I thought, what with the obvious exceptional mathematic skills many of you possess, and the extraordinary amount of practiced riposte excercised within these forums - there would exist, as well, the ability to comprehend what is read with some precision.

Whether you agree or disagree, it's important - if not essential - to at least understand the premise. The title of the thread, in its context, refers to his closing comments:

Originally Posted by legs37

(...) they would have ensured that OOTP6 was ... at worst, good enough to avoid an entire forum inundated with ongoing and numerous complaints before moving into other areas. (...) something has changed and the result is evidently the distribution of the marginally acceptable game it is -

IF his reasoning is followed, then the array of effect would include the ALL of community to varying degrees because each has less than what is perceived as the potential. The degrees of tragedy and loss would be open to debate, as has been clearly shown.

I really enjoy OOTP6. I relish my visit to these Forums to gather the insights, experiences, and analysis of its respected members. When a framework for a dialogue opens with regard to the State of OOTP, it seems a shame, albeit a temporary disenchantment, that the war of thoughts is waged with a variety of fruit rather than genuine engagement.

[BaseballMan]

Well i still dont think the "tragic loss to us all" comes off very well.
Sure it may be tragic to him but its not to me and many others.
Some of us enjoy the game though some dont.
But his statement seemed to say that because ootp didnt fulfill his wishes it is a tragic loss to all.
Its not.
There are things i want in ootp and even if i couldnt play it, it would be a tragic loss to myself and myself alone. I as a player that is having no problems with the game object to the opinion that because something is wrong for him that it is a loss for me too.
Maybe that wasnt what he ment to imply but that is what seems to be what
is taken from that message.

[Slackker]

Originally Posted by endgame

Whether you agree or disagree, it's important - if not essential - to at least understand the premise. The title of the thread, in its context, refers to his closing comments:

Sadly, I disagree. Perhaps that was his intent, but when many people read the title of a post.. it's their "sneak peek" into what the post is about. Since the majority of his dealt with his own personal problems with the game.. to me, that was part of his "tragic loss".

Either way.. I've never been to a board that wasn't riddled with complaints. No matter how good something is.. people will always find things to complain about. Perhaps it's human nature, perhaps it's just that some people are just so jaded and insecure that they have to find flaws in everything. Maybe I'm that way. I've complained some, tried to help some, and made some worthless posts. Who hasn't?!

Even in the quoted comments he presented his opinions as the opinions of the community. "The marginally acceptable game that it is.". Personally, since the update.. I'm quite happy with the game. Yes, DFA has caused some problems with work-arounds.. but oh well! I like the addition, as it makes it much more likely to be implemented and tweaked in v7. I don't find it marginally acceptable. Apparently I'm wrong, though.. since his opinion is stated as fact (The.. "that it is" part).

By the way.. since when are any of the forums on this board ENTIRELY filled with complaining? By my count.. there are many more honest questions, and constructive criticisms than there are posts that come off as simple whining, such as this one.

Anyhow, I'll hush now and hope this post quietly fades down the list, until it reaches a point where no one with a life would be digging that deeply. =)

[William4192]

No banana causes the same problem:

ba·nan·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-nn)

1. Any of several treelike Asian herbs of the genus Musa, especially M. acuminata, having a terminal crown of large, entire leaves and a hanging cluster of fruits.

2. The elongated, edible fruit of these plants, having a thick yellowish to reddish skin and white, aromatic, seedless pulp.

[William4192]

I don't really think it can work with fruits. I can't find a definition for a fruit that is not ambigious. Oh the problems I have!

[phenom]

well, I had a similar problem and responded in the original thread, but I'll ask here too: legs, did you modify the BABIP from default?

[jmm8356]

I'm still waiting for the "OOTP = oranges, H2H = apples" analogy.

"Included in your next bag of oranges, an exciting new fruit... an apple!"
"Well, the apples aren't quite ripe yet, so buy a new bag of oranges now and we'll send you an apple in a couple of weeks."
"Boy, growing apples is _tough_! I never had worm problems with my oranges..."

... and so on.

[William4192]

But what if they sent you a pear? Would you be happy with a pear?

[luckybaer]

Originally Posted by William4192

I like oranges, does that count? Anyhoo, I like oranges. Oranges are great. Why the heck would someone promise me an orange and then give me an apple??!? What kind of sick freakin' pervert would do this to me or any other human being? I could imagine someone, as a cruel joke, asking say a dog "Would you like an orange?" and then slipping him/it an apple, but why in God's name (whatever it may be) would someone do this to me or any other human being?! Do we not have rights? Is this some sort of sick joke! The guy offered me an orange!

Finally. A post in this thread worth reading.

[Eckstein 4 Prez]

Originally Posted by disposableheros

they have a great little old town area known as the Orange Circle (its a roundabout). 50's style drugstore w/ an old school ice cream parlor and an annual street fair w/ beer, food, and trinkets from around the world. good ****.

In fact, I live about 500 yards from said roundabout. And the drugstore in question is where my high school friends and I used to go for lunch when we ditched school. Good ****, indeed.

[andrewkay]

How about Pomegranates? Not widely known, nor amazingly popular, but undoubtedly a fruit. Look at www.pomegranates.org and just see what can be done with it!

(sorry no dancing pomegranates to add here)

Originally Posted by William4192

But what if they sent you a pear? Would you be happy with a pear?

[NCBeachBum]

Originally Posted by andrewkay

How about Pomegranates? Not widely known, nor amazingly popular, but undoubtedly a fruit. Look at www.pomegranates.org and just see what can be done with it!

(sorry no dancing pomegranates to add here)

Not to mention that they even play a part in the creation of the seasons in Greek mythology.

[Dr. Walter Doodah]

Sometimes threads take strange turns.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by jmm8356

While I wouldn't have said it quite like that, I agree with the sentiment. I was pretty sure that a thread with this title would be about somebody dying.

same here, what a freakin ripoff

I want my 20 secodns back