Astros/Cardinals thread - Page 4

Erik W. · 10-15-2004, 05:10 PM

Yeah, the Astros finished up hot at home, but I don't think it matters anymore. The Cards hitters are back in the groove, and they can absolutely victimize that ballpark. I expect the Astros to take one, maybe two, but there's no chance in hell they're taking all three. Past Oswalt, Clemens, and Lidge, they don't have anyone that can shut down the Cards line-up. And those three can't pitch 27 innings in three days.

Erik W. · 10-15-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by benchwarmer

Might be a little optimistic, but you cant look past there home winning record...

In this case I can look past it.

Astros at home this year: 48-33

Cardinals on the road this year: 52-29

CardinalMan · 10-15-2004, 05:14 PM

I'm definitely not!

Milverton · 10-15-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by benchwarmer

With as hot as the Astros are at home, i can see them taking 3 straight there. Then going back to St Louis only needing 1 win in 2 games, the Astros will be in control.

But....never count of those redbirds...

It looks like Houston will be lucky to take one of three in their home park. Even then it would mean a big problem back in St. Louis. I think there is a better chance of a five game or less series now than anything over.

But I'm a hometown fan too!

nate7891 · 10-15-2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Azamien

Yeah, the Astros finished up hot at home, but I don't think it matters anymore. The Cards hitters are back in the groove, and they can absolutely victimize that ballpark. I expect the Astros to take one, maybe two, but there's no chance in hell they're taking all three. Past Oswalt, Clemens, and Lidge, they don't have anyone that can shut down the Cards line-up. And those three can't pitch 27 innings in three days.

Didnt Munro just keep the cards in check? and Backe kept them in check also.

Erik W. · 10-15-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nate7891

Didnt Munro just keep the cards in check? and Backe kept them in check also.

Heh, and the result? 10 runs, 6 runs, and a 2-0 lead for the Cards. Gonna have to keep them more in check, eh?

Milverton · 10-16-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nate7891

Didnt Munro just keep the cards in check? and Backe kept them in check also.

Eternal optimism is what I love about sports fans!

As a life long Tigers fan, that is how I approach ever year for the past two decades.

As a near life long Redbirds fan, it's paying off this year!

nate7891 · 10-16-2004, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Azamien

Heh, and the result? 10 runs, 6 runs, and a 2-0 lead for the Cards. Gonna have to keep them more in check, eh?

that was the bullpen that messed up...not the starters

Erik W. · 10-16-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nate7891

that was the bullpen that messed up...not the starters

I'm aware, but unless Garner is even more of a dolt than he's showed so far in the playoffs, Backe and Munro were lifted early for a reason... they had no more to give without giving up the same gopher balls that the bullpen has. If the Houston starters that aren't named Clemens and Oswalt can't give more than 5-6 innings, they're losing this series. And as good as Clemens is, I don't think he can get into the late innings at this stage of the season, either. His age is showing.

Chief Wahoo · 10-16-2004, 01:28 PM

I agree with you, Azamien, about Clemens showing his age but I hope the Cardinals don't get too anxious. They need to stay patient and make sure Roger has to work to get through 6 innings, so they can tee off on the shell shocked Astros bullpen.

CardinalMan · 10-16-2004, 02:10 PM

bottom line is that Lidge can't pitch 2 innings a night for the next 3 nights. We need to stay patient and keep it close until they go to that bullpen.

H I Mcdonough · 10-16-2004, 03:49 PM

The roof is closed at Minute Maid Park because that's the way the Rocket wants it!

CardinalMan · 10-16-2004, 04:13 PM

Roger's career LCS stats...

11 GS

3-3 3.90ERA

54H and 27 ER in 62 innings...

good but not great. plus he's now 42 and has already thrown over 214 innings this season... his highest total since 2001, and prior to that 1998.

Houston will be tough but I like our chances, if we beat Clemens or Oswalt in one of the next 2 days we're sitting pretty.

H I Mcdonough · 10-16-2004, 04:29 PM

Walker opposite field. 1-0.

CardinalMan · 10-16-2004, 04:30 PM

Thank you Rockies!

H I Mcdonough · 10-16-2004, 04:45 PM

I am spouting many curse words at this time. Things looked good after that double play. Can't give up runs with two outs like this.

CardinalMan · 10-16-2004, 05:11 PM

If we're within 3 runs going into the 7th I like our chances.

dsvitak · 10-16-2004, 05:37 PM

Reggie up, two outs...needs to get a hit here.

Dargone · 10-16-2004, 07:55 PM

We have a series...

nate7891 · 10-17-2004, 01:11 PM

astros win 5-2. Roger goes 7 innings,allowed 2 runs

10-16-2004, 01:28 PM	#70
Chief Wahoo Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Moro, IL Posts: 346	I agree with you, Azamien, about Clemens showing his age but I hope the Cardinals don't get too anxious. They need to stay patient and make sure Roger has to work to get through 6 innings, so they can tee off on the shell shocked Astros bullpen. __________________ Chief Wahoo

10-16-2004, 07:55 PM	#79
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	We have a series... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-17-2004, 01:11 PM	#80
nate7891 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 553	astros win 5-2. Roger goes 7 innings,allowed 2 runs __________________ Keeping idiots in suspense. "If they blew up Wrigley tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me at all. That ivy is nasty, the infield grass is waist high, and they definitely have the most vulgar fans." -- Houston Astros outfielder Lance Berkman. Easiest job in Sports: Third Base Coach Job Requirements: Depth perception, and ability to do “the windmill”.

10-15-2004, 05:10 PM	#61
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Yeah, the Astros finished up hot at home, but I don't think it matters anymore. The Cards hitters are back in the groove, and they can absolutely victimize that ballpark. I expect the Astros to take one, maybe two, but there's no chance in hell they're taking all three. Past Oswalt, Clemens, and Lidge, they don't have anyone that can shut down the Cards line-up. And those three can't pitch 27 innings in three days.

10-15-2004, 05:14 PM	#63
CardinalMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 190	I'm definitely not!

10-16-2004, 02:10 PM	#71
CardinalMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 190	bottom line is that Lidge can't pitch 2 innings a night for the next 3 nights. We need to stay patient and keep it close until they go to that bullpen.

10-16-2004, 03:49 PM	#72
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 291	The roof is closed at Minute Maid Park because that's the way the Rocket wants it!

10-16-2004, 04:13 PM	#73
CardinalMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 190	Roger's career LCS stats... 11 GS 3-3 3.90ERA 54H and 27 ER in 62 innings... good but not great. plus he's now 42 and has already thrown over 214 innings this season... his highest total since 2001, and prior to that 1998. Houston will be tough but I like our chances, if we beat Clemens or Oswalt in one of the next 2 days we're sitting pretty.

10-16-2004, 04:29 PM	#74
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 291	Walker opposite field. 1-0.

10-16-2004, 04:30 PM	#75
CardinalMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 190	Thank you Rockies!

10-16-2004, 04:45 PM	#76
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 291	I am spouting many curse words at this time. Things looked good after that double play. Can't give up runs with two outs like this.

10-16-2004, 05:11 PM	#77
CardinalMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 190	If we're within 3 runs going into the 7th I like our chances.

10-16-2004, 05:37 PM	#78
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,409	Reggie up, two outs...needs to get a hit here.