International League(s) Announcement - Page 4

PSUColonel · 03-22-2023, 06:20 PM

Yes…for the time being (until things change too much over time) I’d say schedules are a problem…particularly in leagues that you need to expand or re-align for realism purposes.

RubeBaker · 03-22-2023, 06:42 PM

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Yes, they can, and did. Basically OOTP is now an MLB game. There’s not really any point in enabling the KBO or WBC tournament without other international leagues. The independent and prospect leagues might be worth it since they are based in the U.S.A. …but really that’s it. Anything outside of this would need to be user created a a major. PITA in my opinion.

I have not yet purchased OOTP24. I'm most likely going to get it later this year, but have not as of now. With regards to the international leagues, while it's true that most OOTP customers select MLB and do not select most, if any, of the international or independent leagues, from a historical standpoint I can understand the disappointment. Also, there are players from said leagues who get posted each offseason who sign with MLB teams. When Tomoyuki Sugano morphs into Nigel Carrothers, I think most people can understand the frustration many OOTP gamers have.

It's nothing personal. And, for the record, I have no personal grudge or animosity towards anyone with OOTP or Com2US. To paraphrase Michael Corleone from "The Godfather": it's not personal, it's strictly business.

Bobfather · 03-22-2023, 06:57 PM

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I have not yet purchased OOTP24. I'm most likely going to get it later this year, but have not as of now. With regards to the international leagues, while it's true that most OOTP customers select MLB and do not select most, if any, of the international or independent leagues, from a historical standpoint I can understand the disappointment. Also, there are players from said leagues who get posted each offseason who sign with MLB teams. When Tomoyuki Sugano morphs into Nigel Carrothers, I think most people can understand the frustration many OOTP gamers have.

It's nothing personal. And, for the record, I have no personal grudge or animosity towards anyone with OOTP or Com2US. To paraphrase Michael Corleone from "The Godfather": it's not personal, it's strictly business.

Once he joins the MLBPA they can use his real name, but not his foreign stats. I would think.

ChrisJNelson · 03-22-2023, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cod

All other international leagues from OOTP23 import without issue. A few leagues lost their logo in the process, but those were easy to replace.

Is there any way to "export" those other foreign leagues/structures from OOTP23 and "import" to a modern save in OOTP24? I'd be largely fine with losing the Jpn league if I could still have a save in OOTP24 with the rest of the world in it.

Cod · 03-23-2023, 06:59 AM

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Is there any way to "export" those other foreign leagues/structures from OOTP23 and "import" to a modern save in OOTP24? I'd be largely fine with losing the Jpn league if I could still have a save in OOTP24 with the rest of the world in it.

I didn't notice any structures, settings, etc. getting messed up when I imported, but I'll have to take another look when I get home tonight. Also, you can keep the other league and all its players with a little extra effort.

ChrisJNelson · 03-23-2023, 09:10 AM

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I didn't notice any structures, settings, etc. getting messed up when I imported, but I'll have to take another look when I get home tonight. Also, you can keep the other league and all its players with a little extra effort.

Would you happen to know the steps to exporting leagues/structures from one save and importing them into another? I've never done anything like that. I typically play modern MLB saves but also add foreign leagues I want. I'd love to be able to export certain leagues from OOTP23 and import into OOTP24 once I start a modern MLB save there. Players in foreign leagues are irrelevant to me, I just want the structures there so they exist and generate players in the future.

PSUColonel · 03-23-2023, 09:29 AM

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Would you happen to know the steps to exporting leagues/structures from one save and importing them into another? I've never done anything like that. I typically play modern MLB saves but also add foreign leagues I want. I'd love to be able to export certain leagues from OOTP23 and import into OOTP24 once I start a modern MLB save there. Players in foreign leagues are irrelevant to me, I just want the structures there so they exist and generate players in the future.

What you will likely need to do, is to load the leagues in 23 and then import them into 24. From there, you could save them as templates and then apply them as you wish to whatever base league you have created.

ChrisJNelson · 03-23-2023, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

What you will likely need to do, is to load the leagues in 23 and then import them into 24. From there, you could save them as templates and then apply them as you wish to whatever base league you have created.

I appreciate it. Seems to have largely worked outside of the logos and stuff didn't auto-load.

PSUColonel · 03-23-2023, 09:48 AM

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I appreciate it. Seems to have largely worked outside of the logos and stuff didn't auto-load.

yes, you will need to re-load those. Just setup the database to the folder where your logos are and then re-import them all.

OutS|der · 03-23-2023, 10:40 AM

Hopefully someone will provide these via a mod. I just hope they do each league separate rather then part of an MLB save.

Cod · 03-23-2023, 10:50 AM

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I appreciate it. Seems to have largely worked outside of the logos and stuff didn't auto-load.

What PSU told you is correct. I should've mentioned I had a few leagues load without logos, but that was an easy fix.

OutS|der · 03-23-2023, 11:02 AM

Are we allowed to share mods of international leagues on here outside of the one that shall not be named?

Has there been any mention what is and what isn't allowed regarding the International leagues?

Rain King · 03-23-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OutS|der

Are we allowed to share mods of international leagues on here outside of the one that shall not be named?

Has there been any mention what is and what isn't allowed regarding the International leagues?

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=344335

OutS|der · 03-23-2023, 11:17 AM

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https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=344335

I always seem to be looking for more info. I'd of like more clarity of what is and isn't allowed. IE he mentions fictional international leagues but that doesn't include the LMB or Cuba. Since those included real players can we still host those mods here or would they be prohibited as well?

Cod · 03-23-2023, 12:59 PM

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https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=344335

Post is way to vague regarding mods. For example, if I share my Japanese league that has real players (with history), will I get my hand slapped? The league name is different and the team names are slightly different, but every thing else (logos, country, etc.) imported from OOTP 23.

Rain King · 03-23-2023, 02:14 PM

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Post is way to vague regarding mods. For example, if I share my Japanese league that has real players (with history), will I get my hand slapped? The league name is different and the team names are slightly different, but every thing else (logos, country, etc.) imported from OOTP 23.

I wouldn't recommend sharing anything that involves the real-life Japanese professional league whether that is league name, team names, or player names. I believe that is pretty clear based on the actions that were taken by the OOTP team regarding that league.

I do not see any reason at this point that mods from any other league would cause an issue.

Cod · 03-23-2023, 03:06 PM

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I wouldn't recommend sharing anything that involves the real-life Japanese professional league whether that is league name, team names, or player names. I believe that is pretty clear based on the actions that were taken by the OOTP team regarding that league.

I agree, which is why I haven't shared anything. I just want more clarification on what is and isn't allowed as far as mods are concerned.

I never updated my OOTP23 passed 9.108 (I think?), so I didn't experience what the Steam users did and tried to avoid those threads at all costs. So I'm not intimately familiar with what the so-called scrambler was scrambling and how/why (other than the original post from Markus).

dewelar · 03-23-2023, 06:56 PM

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I wouldn't recommend sharing anything that involves the real-life Japanese professional league whether that is league name, team names, or player names.

This is something I've been concerned about since the original announcement of the removal of the league in question. I have a league that is entirely fictional (i.e., no problematic league or team names) but uses real players from throughout the world, including several dozen players from said league (as well as others that I believe were removed from v24, such as China and Mexico), both historical and current. I was too scared to download the post-announcement updates for fear that the player names would get scrambled. Will I be safe, or am I stuck using v23 for the foreseeable future?

Cod · 03-23-2023, 09:08 PM

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This is something I've been concerned about since the original announcement of the removal of the league in question. I have a league that is entirely fictional (i.e., no problematic league or team names) but uses real players from throughout the world, including several dozen players from said league (as well as others that I believe were removed from v24, such as China and Mexico), both historical and current. I was too scared to download the post-announcement updates for fear that the player names would get scrambled. Will I be safe, or am I stuck using v23 for the foreseeable future?

Agree. There are ways to get import the player names and histories, but I don't feel comfortable posting those until I understand the rules better regarding this stuff.

Mat · 03-23-2023, 10:21 PM

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Agree. There are ways to get import the player names and histories, but I don't feel comfortable posting those until I understand the rules better regarding this stuff.

*cough* ootp reddit *cough*

03-22-2023, 06:20 PM	#61
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,145	Yes…for the time being (until things change too much over time) I’d say schedules are a problem…particularly in leagues that you need to expand or re-align for realism purposes.

03-23-2023, 10:40 AM	#70
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,778 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Hopefully someone will provide these via a mod. I just hope they do each league separate rather then part of an MLB save.

03-23-2023, 11:02 AM	#72
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,778 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Are we allowed to share mods of international leagues on here outside of the one that shall not be named? Has there been any mention what is and what isn't allowed regarding the International leagues?