Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP 26 Available - FHM 11 Available - OOTP Go! Available

Out of the Park Baseball 26 Buy Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Prior Versions of Our Games > Out of the Park Baseball 17 > OOTP 17 - General Discussions

OOTP 17 - General Discussions Everything about the latest Out of the Park Baseball - officially licensed by MLB.com and the MLBPA.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-26-2016, 08:48 PM   #61
daves
Hall Of Famer
 
daves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,827
Double Elimination Tournament mode that would include historical teams and teams I (and others) created from leagues.
__________________




daves is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 10:33 PM   #62
catcherjul
Major Leagues
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Montréal
Posts: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoOne View Post
i would revamp fictional creation of players... the distribution is too uniform... it results in really flat league-wide outcomes year-to-year...

i think this is also why, to some extent, you don't see as many crazy-high numbers for various stats. the stats get distributed too thinly among the top-end talented players. you may get that 100/100contact 100/100 power guy and they can't hit higher than .350 in any given year. if there weren't soo many highly rated players, they'd get a greater share of the stats --

yes, that is exactly how the game works. just look into how LTM/LT work and it's clear as day. auto-calc assessed the league and adjusts likelihood of HR/hits/2b so that your league is near the Totals on that screen.

so, if you want those numbers to be the base from which volatility ebbs and flows around, you are stuck with the "Max" numbers you see from 100/100 contact players in perpetuity. you could bump the totals, but that's a rising tide that will lift all other batting averages too... which will cause all sorts of problems if you want to maintain a "modern mlb environment."

so in essenece: choose a process that results in distribution of ratings in which the very highly rated players can perform a bit better than they currently do. i don't think a sorted power rating should look like this:

99
98
97
97
97
97
96
96
96
96
92
92
...
21
21
21
20
20
20

that's unnatural, i think... maybe not... how it criss-crosses with other ratings reduces alot of the concerns i have, but it still seems to be there in league-wide year-to-year flatness in results. i shouldn't have to adjust LTM to create volatility. (excludes somethign like evolution changing things due to somethien fictionally tangible)


on an individual basis, i think the volatility year-to-year looks okay - if the numbers say otherwise, i'd easily change my mind on this. volatility is normal... i don't want to lose that, either. e.g. mike trout may hit .330 one year and .278 the next... whatever is within the norm by comparison to RL is cool.

Also, i wish they would be a bit more sophisticated about how many round are necessary to keep a league full and not cause a steady incline or decline of stats in perpetuity. up and down is fine... but when it's only one direction until it hits an equillibrium that's not how it should work.

e.g. too many players created wil cause a rise in statistics until it meets teh new equillibrium of league talent (realtive to "normal").

also, if you create too many your stats get even more flat than they were before....

not making enough new players? -- the opposite of above occurs.

once you hit an equillibrium, auto-calc does re-center your stats.... if you think this contradicts what i said at the start of this post, you aren't following at all. i do want this sort of change to occur on its own (an up/down chance of league stats averages), but in this case it's not by chance it's predictible and due to "bad" settings and self-inflicted in some respects. it's only going one way and not by accident.. but we can only work with what is given to us and without any information picking number of rounds for an Ama draft is like picking number out of a hat... good luck wit hthat.


instead of adding new stuff, they need to make the old stuff work better... then with a better foundation, add newer things... it's a hell of a lot easier to callibrate each year that way. change the base with 10 things on top of it is a lot easier than if 20 things are on top of it. the amount of work to fix it contineus to multiply each layer added. i see this with smaller operations and Emu Servers of various games in the past... they move on to the next idea before the finish the first one in a competent manner. it's more about what they enjoy doing rather than the finished product (more so with the emu developers).
I must disagree on this. In my fictional league that has 64 seasons played, my single season record is 71, and the next one is 61. This guy has also 921 career HR while the runner up hit ''only'' 711 HR

The single season record for batting average is at 408, the runner up at 390, and the third at 378

I can clearly point a couple of guys that has stats off the chart

Probably depending on the sample size or maybe I've been lucky (or you've been unlucky )
catcherjul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2016, 07:19 AM   #63
BigRed75
Hall Of Famer
 
BigRed75's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,430
Quote:
Originally Posted by yazfan67 View Post
My dream OOTP would include a realistic stadium builder, decade separated stats, grand slam stats, and myself (former radio sports guy) as the voice of OOTP!
I respect your honesty!!!
__________________
Mainline team

SPTT team


Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb
BigRed75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 02:57 AM   #64
Mike Lowe
Hall Of Famer
 
Mike Lowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coxmeatsandwich View Post
I was not really sure where to make this, but I figured the suggestion thread was not the right place, because I know a lot of this stuff is not realistic, but if you had full control, and the ability to do whatever you wanted with a new version of OOTP, what would you have to change and/or create in order for the next version to be the game of your dreams?

For me personally, the only thing that I would love to add is a 3D engine that had good enough graphics to where it would be like watching an actual baseball game. My dream version of OOTP would be a game where I could create my fictional universe, and sit down and watch a full baseball game with fictional uniforms/caps/people the whole shebang. Just imagine being able to watch the events unfold in your league with the visuals of MLB the show(although I would gladly settle for PS2 level graphics). If OOTP added these graphics, and allowed for you to control what you see, and how fast the game simulation is, I honestly don't think I'd ever play another game.

I would also love to be able to record my own commentary, or maybe have OOTP hire professional commentators to do all of the voice over work to go along with the new graphics, so it would be more like an actual baseball broadcast. On the other hand, I'm kind of glad OOTP isn't this visually realistic...my life outside of OOTP is hanging on by a thread as is.
I said it in my OOTP 17 review for Operation Sports: this game is closer to being the total package by adding in the visuals than the Show is by adding in the missing realism and depth.
__________________
Franchise. Sliders.
@MikeLowe47 | YouTube | Discord
Mike Lowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 01:27 PM   #65
ForeverRoyalKC
All Star Starter
 
ForeverRoyalKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO.
Posts: 1,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
Dreaming? I'd like the game announced like I was listening to it on the radio. A push the start button and sit down sim .. where the whole game plays out.. I sit on the deck and listen to real Yankee games. How cool would it be to be able to listen to a team I built on the radio? Really cool.
I agree with this one wholeheartedly! I already do that now (unfortunately, it's the robotic female voice) but to have a smooth radio voice like an actual broadcast would be worth the price of the game to me!!! Not just listen to your own team, but even other games with, say...great pitching matchups or playoff / World Series games!
ForeverRoyalKC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 02:09 PM   #66
JMDurron
All Star Starter
 
JMDurron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,262
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRoyalKC View Post
I agree with this one wholeheartedly! I already do that now (unfortunately, it's the robotic female voice) but to have a smooth radio voice like an actual broadcast would be worth the price of the game to me!!! Not just listen to your own team, but even other games with, say...great pitching matchups or playoff / World Series games!
Add in your choice of your real life team's Radio or TV broadcast crews*, and that'd be a nice dream indeed.

* - Radio only for CWS, as I'm not buying any game with Hawk Harrelson's voice in it anywhere. Put that on your board and smoke it!
JMDurron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 02:36 PM   #67
TheMaus2
All Star Starter
 
TheMaus2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The OOTP Forums. Always.
Posts: 1,952
One day Markus will create everything that is possible to create and then we just have to create roster sets for future seasons.
__________________
I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association.

I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.
TheMaus2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 02:42 PM   #68
Rizon
Hall Of Famer
 
Rizon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691
Posts: 2,369
Cheerleaders ala Tecmo Super Bowl

And maybe basic little sprite players that run around.
__________________
JML MILKSHAKES
Rizon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2016, 09:56 PM   #69
JMDurron
All Star Starter
 
JMDurron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,262
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaus2 View Post
One day Markus will create everything that is possible to create and then we just have to create roster sets for future seasons.
Create roster sets? I'm sorry, this is Dream OOTP. There's a live feed from the MLB transaction wire into a Dream OOTP transaction cache, where you constantly have an updated OOTP Dream Quickstart Roster option for starting a new MLB Quickstart with all roster updates. Oh, and you can start that Quickstart on any day of the season or preseason that you'd like, including at the start of Spring Training, NOT JUST OPENING DAY (ahem).
JMDurron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2016, 10:33 PM   #70
Mike Lowe
Hall Of Famer
 
Mike Lowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMDurron View Post
Create roster sets? I'm sorry, this is Dream OOTP. There's a live feed from the MLB transaction wire into a Dream OOTP transaction cache, where you constantly have an updated OOTP Dream Quickstart Roster option for starting a new MLB Quickstart with all roster updates. Oh, and you can start that Quickstart on any day of the season or preseason that you'd like, including at the start of Spring Training, NOT JUST OPENING DAY (ahem).
This is precisely what NBA2K announced yesterday with their "Start Today" option in MyLeague and MyGM.
__________________
Franchise. Sliders.
@MikeLowe47 | YouTube | Discord
Mike Lowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 02:55 PM   #71
IStillDream
Minors (Double A)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 166
I like a lot of the things other people have posted (female players, in-game facegen editor, better retired numbers, and an improved graphics engine) but here's one I haven't seen yet:

Immersive storyline quickstarts. Think of them almost like OOTP story DLC. They could plunk you down in a what-if moment from history (what if the Player's League had succeeded? What if the color barrier had fallen earlier? What if the '94 strike had been averted?) or something purely fictional (anything from a commissioner who's out to get you to a field-of-dreams style team of legends appearing in the modern day) and drop you in not just with the correct rosters, but with local papers with detailed stories, and storyline events that could pop up and need to be dealt with, and communication with players that goes beyond the shallow level.

It'd take a ton of work, but frankly, that's the kind of thing I'd be willing to pay extra for.
IStillDream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 03:28 PM   #72
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,178
Quote:
Originally Posted by IStillDream View Post
I like a lot of the things other people have posted (female players, in-game facegen editor, better retired numbers, and an improved graphics engine) but here's one I haven't seen yet:

Immersive storyline quickstarts. Think of them almost like OOTP story DLC. They could plunk you down in a what-if moment from history (what if the Player's League had succeeded? What if the color barrier had fallen earlier? What if the '94 strike had been averted?) or something purely fictional (anything from a commissioner who's out to get you to a field-of-dreams style team of legends appearing in the modern day) and drop you in not just with the correct rosters, but with local papers with detailed stories, and storyline events that could pop up and need to be dealt with, and communication with players that goes beyond the shallow level.

It'd take a ton of work, but frankly, that's the kind of thing I'd be willing to pay extra for.
That's a really neat idea Dunno if it'd be possible but it's very cool to think about!
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 03:57 PM   #73
IStillDream
Minors (Double A)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukasberger View Post
That's a really neat idea Dunno if it'd be possible but it's very cool to think about!
Thanks! I'm glad this sounds good outside of my own head. I've had a fairly detailed idea kicking around my head for a few years, one centered around Bill Veeck buying the Phillies in '43, breaking the color barrier early, and making you the GM, but some of the features I'd want (only you could sign Negro League players, and all the other teams would refuse to trade with you but would trade with eachother) would probably be too hard to code.
IStillDream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 09:41 AM   #74
David Watts
Hall Of Famer
 
David Watts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks
Posts: 9,578
Infractions: 0/1 (1)
Just realized what my dream OOTP is. My dream OOTP would be an OOTP in which the AI manager understands it's the last week of the season and ______ team has clinched the division and plans accordingly rotation wise. No more pitching the teams ace on the final day of the season in a meaningless game so that ace won't be ready for game one of the post season. UGH!
David Watts is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:22 PM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2023 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2024 Out of the Park Developments