Worst Person in the World!

[msupoke]

Barry Bonds is the worst person ever.

[r0nster]

yes he is well known to be a baby.

[iverbure]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Hypocrisy? Do you even know what the word means? Cobb has been accused of things he never did, while the things that Belle actually did, with eyewitness and video data, have been listed. Apples and oranges: Belle is actually guilty of all of those bad things, which is why he is the worst person ever.

Belle is the worst person in baseball? really? Ugueth Urbina was charged for attempted murder.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by iverbure

Belle is the worst person in baseball? really? Ugueth Urbina was charged for attempted murder.

And Albert Belle once tried to run over some kids in his SUV. Given all the rest of the bad things he did, Albert still wins.

Although I have to admit that Barry Bonds is a very, very bad person and might even be worse than Albert Belle.

[Lukas Berger]

Julio Machado anyone?

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by lukasberger

Julio Machado anyone?

Who-lio? What's his claim to infamy?

Oh. Julio Machado, Ex-Brewers Pitcher Convicted of a 1991 Murder in Venezuela

Not a very prominent news story, though. Odd that you would think of it.

[Padreman]

I would add Ozzie Guillen to the list

[Padreman]

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[Assos]

The Cobb read was good. I am of the belief that there is a middle ground to the story of Ty Cobb. A good historian will promote a thesis and show facts that support his/her thesis and also show other "facts" that can be disproved.
Also, on the racism part of any player pre-1970, a lot of players grew up in the south or in an environment where being a racism was socially acceptable. If some people say Ty hated blacks (African Americans to use the parlance of our time) then so did most of Ty's white neighbors growing up and more than likely a bunch of his team mates and fellow ball players.
As for Albert Belle, I would say he is up there from everything I have read. Ted Williams was also known to have clubhouse issues, but warmed up as he matured.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by lukasberger

Julio Machado anyone?

He snaps once and shoots someone by mistake vs a lifetime of being a jerk? Belle and Bonds are worse to me.

[Hammercraft]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

He snaps once and shoots someone by mistake vs a lifetime of being a jerk? Belle and Bonds are worse to me.

Belle had a temper, but what did Bonds do to make him the worst?

[Number4]

Lifetime jerk vs. murderer isn't even a competition.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Number4

Lifetime jerk vs. murderer isn't even a competition.

Are you familiar with the circumstances?

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Hammercraft

Belle had a temper, but what did Bonds do to make him the worst?

Lie, cheat and then steal the record Hank Aaron earned honestly.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Number4

Lifetime jerk vs. murderer isn't even a competition.

Unless your criteria for hatred is the color of their skin.

[Gerry58]

Originally Posted by Germaniac

Just ask Fernando Vina ... one of the few games I could watch in person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV3fNK31HD4

In the comments under the video they say that he was plunked in the next at bat and that started a brawl. But no actions from the officials?

[The Wolf]

It was a more relaxed time.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by bababui

Unless your criteria for hatred is the color of their skin.

There is zero racism here on my part. Machado shot a woman in a road rage incident - accounts say that the windows of the car she was in were too heavily tinted to see through clearly. It was an isolated incident, and even HOFer and legend Bob Gibson has had road rage incidents. So it's a one-off that was likely accidental vs. a lifetime of advanced jerkitude. Easy call.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Number4

Lifetime jerk vs. murderer isn't even a competition.

Originally Posted by The Wolf

There is zero racism here on my part. Machado shot a woman in a road rage incident - accounts say that the windows of the car she was in were too heavily tinted to see through clearly. It was an isolated incident, and even HOFer and legend Bob Gibson has had road rage incidents. So it's a one-off that was likely accidental vs. a lifetime of advanced jerkitude. Easy call.

I see both sides. Murder (and other bad stuff) is in a class by itself. However, when I started this thread, I was basically talking about "jerkitude" (nice - it should be a word, red squiggle underline regardless) so Wolf is right.

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Lie, cheat and then steal the record Hank Aaron earned honestly.

Hank didn't even show up in person to congratulated him for the "record*" he broke. Was a video message. Many firsthand accounts at that time tell how Hank was upset and be bad every right to be. Bonds is a cheater, him Sosa and McGuire made the beloved baseball numbers into a joke. They almost killed baseball for me