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Old 03-05-2011, 01:13 PM   #61
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I've never played puresim so I can't comment. But please don't ever mention baseball mogul in the same sentence as ootp, it's like comparing Roy Halladay to Oliver Perez.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:36 PM   #62
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If you can't wait on OOTP 12 then try buying Puresim baseball 4 it will be released on march 22 ,2011. It has the same features If not more then OOTP 12.
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How so? I play MLB on my 360....that's it.

I'm in online leagues on 6.5, 9, and X right now...5 leagues in total..plus some solo time here and there.

I've bought every version of this game since STB.

It's not unfortunate...it's called branching out.
I'm still wondering what the online leagues are like with that competitor's game.

If it has the same features, if not more, than that sounds pretty intriguing!
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:06 PM   #63
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If the game is release in may it isn't a problem at all for me since I won't be ready to order before this month (as I've done every year since OOTP 2007).
I've finally decided to not do my late pre-order this year and I did it yesterday.

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But this part is always true, as long as I have fun playing the last year version I can wait.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:12 PM   #64
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I'm still wondering what the online leagues are like with that competitor's game.

If it has the same features, if not more, than that sounds pretty intriguing!
Online leagues with MLB2K are pretty good. But you have to restarted once the season is over. That's the only knock on 2k..but then again, MLB2k isn't a text sim...so I wouldn't expect it to have that.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:10 PM   #65
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If you can't wait on OOTP 12 then try buying Puresim baseball 4 it will be released on march 22 ,2011. It has the same features If not more then OOTP 12.
First, I am a fan of Puresim Baseball and a big fan of the way Shaun participates on his forum. That being said, Puresim has less features and configurability than OOTP by a pretty wide margin. Now, perhaps those missing features don't matter to you (or another player). In that case Puresim may be the better game, even if it has less features. I fully recommend trying the Puresim demo to anyone looking for a good single-player baseball game, since Puresim doesn't have multiplayer or online leagues. I think it may provide more realistic results with historical players than OOTP. But claiming that Puresim has more features than OOTP is a little silly.

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Old 03-05-2011, 04:20 PM   #66
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Puresim doesn't have multiplayer or online leagues. I think it may provide more realistic results with historical players than OOTP. But claiming that Puresim has more features than OOTP is a little silly.
WHAT? Online leagues don't exist with Puresim???

How on earth can someone come on here and claim that Puresim baeball 4 has the same features that OOTP 12 has "if not more" and yet does not support online leagues?!?

Sheesh!
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:46 PM   #67
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WHAT? Online leagues don't exist with Puresim???

How on earth can someone come on here and claim that Puresim baeball 4 has the same features that OOTP 12 has "if not more" and yet does not support online leagues?!?

Sheesh!
I think I got soggy all the way from here since your post was dripping with so much sarcasm.

As far as how someone can claim Puresim Baseball 4 has more features, I'm not sure. A person can claim it is more fun, handles a particular mode of play better, or doesn't require as much work to get a game going, etc..., but I don't think stating mistruths about either game is a benefit to anyone. It creates unrealistic expectations for those going to try the Puresim demo, and doesn't help players choose the baseball game that is best for them. I'm all for trying to help people find the game that is the best fit for them. I preordered OOTP 12, but lately I am playing the Puresim 4 demo.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:20 PM   #68
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I'm normally impatient about a new release coming out but I am quite happy and having a blast with OOTP11 so it doesn't bother me this time around... for the very first time actually.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:38 PM   #69
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I think I got soggy all the way from here since your post was dripping with so much sarcasm.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:12 PM   #70
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If you can't wait on OOTP 12 then try buying Puresim baseball 4 it will be released on march 22 ,2011. It has the same features If not more then OOTP 12. Just a heads ups on the games. Sports mogul really hasn't said when baseball mogul 2012 will be out but like ootpdevelopments they said in march. So we all have to assume that its probably will released by opening day which is march 31st. I do think that ootpdevelopments misleading all of us because they say in the spring well that could be april, may, or even june for all we know. But the bottom line here is we all have to wait until its out. Is it really worth preordering ootp 12 I mean the game will not be out until late in the spring so preorder it. All you really are doing is saving like 10 bucks big deal. Like I said there are other two other baseball sims that will be out sooner that I think will give ootp 12 a run for its money, baseball mogul 2012 and puresim baseball 4. You should try both of them out until ootp 12 is out.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:46 PM   #71
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It would be nice if these guys would give us a ball park time frame..they say "spring"...

That's somewhere between March and May...90ish days.

Would be great if they just came out and said on or about 15 April is our goal instead of giving people a 90 day window.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:53 PM   #72
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It would be nice if these guys would give us a ball park time frame..they say "spring"...

That's somewhere between March and May...90ish days.

Would be great if they just came out and said on or about 15 April is our goal instead of giving people a 90 day window.
So if they don't know when the release date is they should just lie? They haven't even started beta yet so how could they possibly give a release date?
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:54 PM   #73
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You have to understand...OOTP Developments likely isn't even sure themselves.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:04 AM   #74
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So if they don't know when the release date is they should just lie? They haven't even started beta yet so how could they possibly give a release date?

Ofcourse they shouldn't lie. Any moron can come up with a feasible guess.

3 month window is a bit wide, especially for a yearly game. If they know it will be done late Spring, then just say May 1...early spring..then say Mar 15...not rocket science



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Old 03-06-2011, 12:05 AM   #75
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You have to understand...OOTP Developments likely isn't even sure themselves.
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I forget they aren't a major developer that sets timelines for a upcoming game.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:29 AM   #76
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so you made SSgt or TSgt yet Airmen Smith? Been around for 4 years..should be at least a SSgt
Lol, I'll never make Sgt, I don't kiss enough ass to get it. I'm just counting my days until my sentence is up lol.

Back to the release date thing. I'm glad we agree ootp are not morons but I think a 3 month window isn't to bad. They need to find a good balance between releasing a game before it's completely fixed and releasing a game that requires as few patches as possible.

I am concerned a bit that the beta hadn't started yet but I feel really good about an April release. That seems to be a good common ground. Sure it's after opening day but it's a lot better then having the game cone out in June like a previous version.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:32 AM   #77
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Lol, I'll never make Sgt, I don't kiss enough ass to get it. I'm just counting my days until my sentence is up lol.

Back to the release date thing. I'm glad we agree ootp are not morons but I think a 3 month window isn't to bad. They need to find a good balance between releasing a game before it's completely fixed and releasing a game that requires as few patches as possible.

I am concerned a bit that the beta hadn't started yet but I feel really good about an April release. That seems to be a good common ground. Sure it's after opening day but it's a lot better then having the game cone out in June like a previous version.
Lol..you don't have to kiss ass to make SSgt...just have to be good at testing!

What's your job?

Yeah I'm fine with a April release...but once May hits..ehh...

During that unmentionable June release...I tested out Mogul....yeah....don't ever buy that again.
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Lol..you don't have to kiss ass to make SSgt...just have to be good at testing!

What's your job?

Yeah I'm fine with a April release...but once May hits..ehh...

During that unmentionable June release...I tested out Mogul....yeah....don't ever buy that again.
I'm security forces. True about the testing but I tend to get in trouble a lot because I like to speak my mind to higher ranking ppl. Which in turn gets me paperwork that eventually leads to either not testing or missing my date due to extra duty. No big deal to me, i'm happy with my rank plus being a sgt at my current base is crappy just because we have so few.

I agree if May gets here and ootp 12 isn't here I will be mad to, I'll still buy it because the other two alternatives are just no where near ootp.

I actually played mogul for about 3 years before getting ootp 6.5 and while I loved mogul at that time, once I found ootp there was no turning back. Mogul is a good beginner game to get ppl used to playing sports sims and I do love the speed the game has but the features are just two few. Puresim, well I have played it, but its caught between mogul and ootp. While more in depth then mogul it is no where near the complex game ootp is. Plus they joined wolverine studios so I don't count on any of there games anymore after there football game debacle.

One thing you can be sure about is that as soon as ootp has a release date, you can bet mogul will release there date at least 1 week before ootp.
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I'm security forces. True about the testing but I tend to get in trouble a lot because I like to speak my mind to higher ranking ppl. Which in turn gets me paperwork that eventually leads to either not testing or missing my date due to extra duty. No big deal to me, i'm happy with my rank plus being a sgt at my current base is crappy just because we have so few.

I agree if May gets here and ootp 12 isn't here I will be mad to, I'll still buy it because the other two alternatives are just no where near ootp.

I actually played mogul for about 3 years before getting ootp 6.5 and while I loved mogul at that time, once I found ootp there was no turning back. Mogul is a good beginner game to get ppl used to playing sports sims and I do love the speed the game has but the features are just two few. Puresim, well I have played it, but its caught between mogul and ootp. While more in depth then mogul it is no where near the complex game ootp is. Plus they joined wolverine studios so I don't count on any of there games anymore after there football game debacle.

One thing you can be sure about is that as soon as ootp has a release date, you can bet mogul will release there date at least 1 week before ootp.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:43 AM   #80
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I remember a few versions ago when they gave a "ballpark" estimate to the release, and when it got pushed back everyone showed up to the boards with torches and pitchforks. I can understand why they keep a secret. OOTP fans are like Yankees fans that way.
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