National League MVP 2006 Poll - Page 4

andymac · 10-02-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

Possibly but my point is more that you're overvaluing the defense that ANY 1B can bring to the table and that you're exaggerating the value that ONE starting pitcher can have on a team over the course of a season, particularly when their numbers aren't exactly staggering.

Anyways, it's just a stupid poll being debated by a bunch of sports geeks so I'll let this one go until January/February when I'll be sure to bring this back up to point out how out of line you are while you're slobbering over some mid-major from Missouri.

Hehe...I also don't think a 1B can bring a ton to the table defensively, at least not compared to any other positions. However, a bad one (which Howard is) can certainly take quite a bit off of the table.

:midmajorslookedprettygoodinncaatournament:

Jason Moyer · 10-04-2006, 02:06 AM

If Ryan Howard wins the MVP award I think it shows that people still don't know how to adjust for a.) park factors and b.) defense

I really don't have a hard time believing WARP3's evaluation of Howard and Rollins being almost equal in value this year.

darkhorse · 10-04-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

I really don't have a hard time believing WARP3's evaluation of Howard and Rollins being almost equal in value this year.

THT's flavor of WinShares has them at 31-26. While the gap is a wee bit larger in Howards favor, it still shows they were quite comparable in value.

View Poll Results: Who da man?
Brandon Webb	0	0%
John Smoltz	0	0%
Carlos Zambrano	0	0%
Bronson Arroyo	1	1.54%
Matt Holliday	0	0%
Miguel Cabrera	1	1.54%
Lance Berkman	0	0%
Rafael Furcal	0	0%
Carlos Beltran	3	4.62%
David Wright	0	0%
Ryan Howard	25	38.46%
Jason Bay	0	0%
Adrian Gonzalez	0	0%
Albert Pujols	33	50.77%
Alfonso Soriano	2	3.08%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

10-04-2006, 02:06 AM	#62
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,066	If Ryan Howard wins the MVP award I think it shows that people still don't know how to adjust for a.) park factors and b.) defense I really don't have a hard time believing WARP3's evaluation of Howard and Rollins being almost equal in value this year. __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech Last edited by Jason Moyer; 10-04-2006 at 02:08 AM.