Accurate New World Template to be released later today - Page 4

southside_hitmen · 07-17-2006, 12:49 AM

Ok, first thing is a small one. Instead of Group A, B, etc.. just change "Group" to "Grupo" on all of them.

Next, if you are basing the league off the standard one that is given to us by SI, then you have Industriales and Habana (the two Havana teams in Group 2) switched in their spots on the "Names and Affiliations" page in the league setup. Not sure, but this may cause some importing/exporting issues with rosters/stadiums etc. if people try and import a roster set into the league.

The team names need a little reworking too. The "Havana Lions" team name should be Industriales as that is what they are known as by everyone (it would be like calling Notre Dame "South Bend") and thier logo even has a script letter "I" in it, then change the Abbreviation to IND.

Also, the more spanish spelling for the Havana Cowboys team name is La Habana, not Havana and the corresponding abbr. is HAB.

The other one that doesn't have the "official" nickname of the SNB is Ciego de Avila, which is actually CAV not CAB as is in the file. This site shows the official abbr. that are used by the SNB - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...disticas90.htm

Below is the spanish nicknames for each of the teams. The format is abbreviation - nickname. The abbreviations I used are assuming that you made the changes I suggested in the above paragraph so the abbreviations correspond with the "official" abbreviations and that you switched Industriales and La Habana in Grupo B.

Grupo A
IJV - Toronjeros
MTZ - Cocodrilos
MET - Guerreros
PRI - Vegueros

Grupo B
CFG - Camaroneros
HAB - Vaqueros
IND - Leones
SSP - Gallos

Grupo C
CMG - Alfareros
CAV - Tigres
LTU - Magos
VCL - Naranjas

Grupo D
GRA - Alanzes
GTM - Indios
HOL - Sabuesos
SCU - Avispas

southside_hitmen · 07-17-2006, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ozziethesaint

ok that one's on Rico... wonder if he misses the Expos or something? because that would have worked with it LOL

LOL. Seriously though, thanks to both you and rico for putting this file together. I'll be more than happy to keep helping.

ozziethesaint · 07-17-2006, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

LOL. Seriously though, thanks to both you and rico for putting this file together. I'll be more than happy to keep helping.

Hey man, email me at ozziethesaint@yahoo.com and give me your IM of choice

I've got a question I need to ask you

southside_hitmen · 07-17-2006, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziethesaint

Hey man, email me at ozziethesaint@yahoo.com and give me your IM of choice

I've got a question I need to ask you

email sent

ricobrown · 07-17-2006, 02:31 AM

I love all the feedback, me and ozzie are working hard to put together an accurate template that will work, and is to everyone liking. Keep the feedback coming and we'll keep the updates coming.

bgstmetfan · 07-17-2006, 03:05 AM

Can anyone tell me where the button to delete all players is?

ricobrown · 07-17-2006, 03:14 AM

Go into the league setup menu after you create the league and say release all players, then go to the transaction screen and say delete all free agents. Sorry it took so long to respond

Scott Vibert · 07-17-2006, 02:30 PM

BTW here were the financial settings I had for the Cuban League:

Average Attendence per Game: 6610 (Sampled 10 days worth of games 3 in the beginning, 4 in the middle, 3 in the end and took the average for this quick estimate)
Average Ticket Price: As low as possible ($1 - Current)
Financial System: Either (No strong feelings can be disabled)
Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: No Free Agency
Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Disabled
Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration
Average Media Contract: $0
Media Contract Fixed: Yes
Salary Cap: $0
Team Owner controls Budget? Yes
Revenue Sharing: No
Average Coach: 3500
Minimum Player: 1825
Superstar: 3650
Star: 3415
Good: 3180
Above Average: 2945
Average: 2710
Below Average: 2485
Fair: 2150
Poor: 1825

The salaries come from the typically daily wages reported in various internet articles of the day jobs for Cuban ballplayers.

southside_hitmen · 07-17-2006, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Vibert

BTW here were the financial settings I had for the Cuban League:

Average Attendence per Game: 6610 (Sampled 10 days worth of games 3 in the beginning, 4 in the middle, 3 in the end and took the average for this quick estimate)
Average Ticket Price: As low as possible ($1 - Current)
Financial System: Either (No strong feelings can be disabled)
Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: No Free Agency
Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Disabled
Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration
Average Media Contract: $0
Media Contract Fixed: Yes
Salary Cap: $0
Team Owner controls Budget? Yes
Revenue Sharing: No
Average Coach: 3500
Minimum Player: 1825
Superstar: 3650
Star: 3415
Good: 3180
Above Average: 2945
Average: 2710
Below Average: 2485
Fair: 2150
Poor: 1825

The salaries come from the typically daily wages reported in various internet articles of the day jobs for Cuban ballplayers.

Thanks Scott, the financials are one thing I wasn't sure about in the league. Can I ask what various sources you used? I am always trying to find out more info about the Cuban league and they sound like useful articles.

tm1681 · 07-17-2006, 08:33 PM

Where do you put this file once you've downloaded it?

ozziethesaint · 07-17-2006, 08:45 PM

inside your data folder there will be a world_templates folder if you've created any in the game yet. or you may have to make the folder yourself if this is your first template

The Goblin · 07-18-2006, 12:36 AM

OK, I downloaded the world template number 2 tonight and have gotten 2 scheduling errors when trying to create my universe. Went back found the two league with the odd number of games scheduled in each and made them even. Restarted my universe and it just stopped at 93% (creating schedules) I am not sure what is wrong. Do I need to go into any leagues and make adjustments? Any help would be awesome. Thank you very much. The Goblin

imagine · 07-18-2006, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goblin

OK, I downloaded the world template number 2 tonight and have gotten 2 scheduling errors when trying to create my universe. Went back found the two league with the odd number of games scheduled in each and made them even. Restarted my universe and it just stopped at 93% (creating schedules) I am not sure what is wrong. Do I need to go into any leagues and make adjustments? Any help would be awesome. Thank you very much. The Goblin

something very similar happened to me too. i also corrected odd numbers and then hangs on 83% of scheduling

ricobrown · 07-18-2006, 09:28 AM

The issue is being looked into and will be updated when the reason is known, I believe its the schedule is not even but like I said we will let you know. Most likely in the next release sorry for the inconvience.

The Goblin · 07-18-2006, 09:30 AM

Thanks for the great work, The Goblin

NomarHits400 · 07-18-2006, 11:12 AM

I really like the NCAA idea- and though it might not work perfectly- I had a couple ideas for making it a little more realistic- no offense meant- if you don't agree- no big deal:

First, if it hasn't already been mentioned- "Free agents may leave this league"- needs to be checked- and either 3 or 4 years needs to be the minimum service years depending on whether you want juniors to be eligible. This might be a bit unrealistic- but I think it would also reduce the number of 5 and 6 year guys in the league.

2nd, with a roster of 30- and assuming a full 4 year stay for each player- the draft should really be 7 or 8 players (with an average of 7.5 guys leaving every year) to ensure you have enough players.

3rd, I think placing the league as an A ball equivalent is actually correct- but maybe making this league a Rookie type league would generate younger players...perhaps not- and maybe you've already looked into it- just an idea.

4th, I wonder if setting the player salaries even lower- like $500- instead of $5000- would ensure guys don't overstay their welcome. Again, maybe you've looked into it already- but worth mentioning.

I LOVE this idea -and think the major turnoffs are obviously 30 year old college players- and guys with 8 years of college eligibilty....Just thought that maybe the above might help make things more realistic- and maybe Markus can look into implenting this next year...

APujols5 · 07-18-2006, 11:44 AM

Ozzie wanted me to tell you guys that all these tweaks are being looked at and he will probably have a new version out tonight

kdawg · 07-18-2006, 11:51 AM

Thank you guys for all your hard work. I believe this template will help make a lot of people enjoy the game even more.

Scott Vibert · 07-18-2006, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

Thanks Scott, the financials are one thing I wasn't sure about in the league. Can I ask what various sources you used? I am always trying to find out more info about the Cuban league and they sound like useful articles.

Just various articles I dug up while doing searches. I believe this one was either from PBS or MLB.

More or less I culled what I could and estimated the rest.

For example a line I grabbed:

Quote:

Many Cuban baseball stars make less than $2,000 annually, or one half of one percent of the average New York Yankee's salary.

Church OOTP · 07-18-2006, 06:32 PM

Will you be using Cubby's and Rolans rosters in this?

07-17-2006, 12:49 AM	#61
southside_hitmen Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 201	More Serie Nacional de Beisbol info Ok, first thing is a small one. Instead of Group A, B, etc.. just change "Group" to "Grupo" on all of them. Next, if you are basing the league off the standard one that is given to us by SI, then you have Industriales and Habana (the two Havana teams in Group 2) switched in their spots on the "Names and Affiliations" page in the league setup. Not sure, but this may cause some importing/exporting issues with rosters/stadiums etc. if people try and import a roster set into the league. The team names need a little reworking too. The "Havana Lions" team name should be Industriales as that is what they are known as by everyone (it would be like calling Notre Dame "South Bend") and thier logo even has a script letter "I" in it, then change the Abbreviation to IND. Also, the more spanish spelling for the Havana Cowboys team name is La Habana, not Havana and the corresponding abbr. is HAB. The other one that doesn't have the "official" nickname of the SNB is Ciego de Avila, which is actually CAV not CAB as is in the file. This site shows the official abbr. that are used by the SNB - http://www.inder.co.cu/indernet/comp...disticas90.htm Below is the spanish nicknames for each of the teams. The format is abbreviation - nickname. The abbreviations I used are assuming that you made the changes I suggested in the above paragraph so the abbreviations correspond with the "official" abbreviations and that you switched Industriales and La Habana in Grupo B. Grupo A IJV - Toronjeros MTZ - Cocodrilos MET - Guerreros PRI - Vegueros Grupo B CFG - Camaroneros HAB - Vaqueros IND - Leones SSP - Gallos Grupo C CMG - Alfareros CAV - Tigres LTU - Magos VCL - Naranjas Grupo D GRA - Alanzes GTM - Indios HOL - Sabuesos SCU - Avispas Last edited by southside_hitmen; 07-17-2006 at 12:52 AM.

07-17-2006, 03:05 AM	#66
bgstmetfan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 240	Can anyone tell me where the button to delete all players is? __________________ Lets Go Mets! Stony Brook '06 RIP- Raj

07-17-2006, 03:14 AM	#67
ricobrown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 131	Sorry Go into the league setup menu after you create the league and say release all players, then go to the transaction screen and say delete all free agents. Sorry it took so long to respond

07-18-2006, 12:36 AM	#72
The Goblin Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13	Awesome Template, but having trouble getting it to work. OK, I downloaded the world template number 2 tonight and have gotten 2 scheduling errors when trying to create my universe. Went back found the two league with the odd number of games scheduled in each and made them even. Restarted my universe and it just stopped at 93% (creating schedules) I am not sure what is wrong. Do I need to go into any leagues and make adjustments? Any help would be awesome. Thank you very much. The Goblin

07-18-2006, 09:28 AM	#74
ricobrown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 131	Sorry bout that The issue is being looked into and will be updated when the reason is known, I believe its the schedule is not even but like I said we will let you know. Most likely in the next release sorry for the inconvience.

07-17-2006, 02:31 AM	#65
ricobrown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 131	I love all the feedback, me and ozzie are working hard to put together an accurate template that will work, and is to everyone liking. Keep the feedback coming and we'll keep the updates coming.

07-17-2006, 02:30 PM	#68
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,209	BTW here were the financial settings I had for the Cuban League: Average Attendence per Game: 6610 (Sampled 10 days worth of games 3 in the beginning, 4 in the middle, 3 in the end and took the average for this quick estimate) Average Ticket Price: As low as possible ($1 - Current) Financial System: Either (No strong feelings can be disabled) Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: No Free Agency Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Disabled Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration Average Media Contract: $0 Media Contract Fixed: Yes Salary Cap: $0 Team Owner controls Budget? Yes Revenue Sharing: No Average Coach: 3500 Minimum Player: 1825 Superstar: 3650 Star: 3415 Good: 3180 Above Average: 2945 Average: 2710 Below Average: 2485 Fair: 2150 Poor: 1825 The salaries come from the typically daily wages reported in various internet articles of the day jobs for Cuban ballplayers.

07-17-2006, 08:33 PM	#70
tm1681 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 1,428	Where do you put this file once you've downloaded it?

07-17-2006, 08:45 PM	#71
ozziethesaint Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 831	inside your data folder there will be a world_templates folder if you've created any in the game yet. or you may have to make the folder yourself if this is your first template

07-18-2006, 09:30 AM	#75
The Goblin Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13	Ok Thanks for the great work, The Goblin

07-18-2006, 11:12 AM	#76
NomarHits400 Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 347	I really like the NCAA idea- and though it might not work perfectly- I had a couple ideas for making it a little more realistic- no offense meant- if you don't agree- no big deal: First, if it hasn't already been mentioned- "Free agents may leave this league"- needs to be checked- and either 3 or 4 years needs to be the minimum service years depending on whether you want juniors to be eligible. This might be a bit unrealistic- but I think it would also reduce the number of 5 and 6 year guys in the league. 2nd, with a roster of 30- and assuming a full 4 year stay for each player- the draft should really be 7 or 8 players (with an average of 7.5 guys leaving every year) to ensure you have enough players. 3rd, I think placing the league as an A ball equivalent is actually correct- but maybe making this league a Rookie type league would generate younger players...perhaps not- and maybe you've already looked into it- just an idea. 4th, I wonder if setting the player salaries even lower- like $500- instead of $5000- would ensure guys don't overstay their welcome. Again, maybe you've looked into it already- but worth mentioning. I LOVE this idea -and think the major turnoffs are obviously 30 year old college players- and guys with 8 years of college eligibilty....Just thought that maybe the above might help make things more realistic- and maybe Markus can look into implenting this next year...

07-18-2006, 11:44 AM	#77
APujols5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CP Indiana Posts: 1,667 Infractions: 1/3 (3)	Ozzie wanted me to tell you guys that all these tweaks are being looked at and he will probably have a new version out tonight

07-18-2006, 11:51 AM	#78
kdawg Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Bedford, MA Posts: 63	Thank you guys for all your hard work. I believe this template will help make a lot of people enjoy the game even more. __________________ Your Friend in Plastics "Reality continues to ruin my life." - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes "I will find humor in my everyday life by looking for people I can laugh at"

07-18-2006, 06:32 PM	#80
Church OOTP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 270	Will you be using Cubby's and Rolans rosters in this? __________________ Church's Bottom of the 9th YouTube channel devoted to OOTP Commish of the late, great iMLB Online League