Steelers vs. Ponies

[Jair]

And the refs blow another call. This is ridiculous.

[andymac]

Originally Posted by jamus23

Nah, he rolled over a couple of times with clear possession. Looked like a "football move" to me.

But Indy has to challenge it anyways.

Rolling over isn't a "football move", though...I think they made the right call.

[Jair]

Originally Posted by andymac

Rolling over isn't a "football move", though...I think they made the right call.

Pardon? Then why do wide recievers get credit for a catch when they dive and roll over?

[Spielman]

Originally Posted by jamus23

Bull****!

Yeah, and I think they goofed there too.

[sebastian0622]

Originally Posted by Spielman

Because it's their job to know, and they didn't?

Any way you dress it up, they goofed there.

Yeah, but just making a call because you have to make a call without any idea of what the correct call is is even worse. I'd rather a ref just say, "We didn't see who moved first, so we're going to replay the down" than say, "We didn't see who moved first, so we're going to guess."

[twins15]

Looked to me like he had possession, rolled over, and then was halfway up with possession when his knee hit the ball out. I thought that was clearly an INT. IMO.

[andymac]

Originally Posted by Jair

Pardon? Then why do wide recievers get credit for a catch when they dive and roll over?

When does this happen? It isn't a catch until he comes to a rest or makes a football move. He lost it before doing either.

[Jonzard]

It seems like something that might be the right call under the rules, but when watching seems lame (like the tuck rule).

On another note, I just woke up to see 21-10 and was completely shocked... wow.

[andymac]

Originally Posted by twins15

Looked to me like he had possession, rolled over, and then was halfway up with possession when his knee hit the ball out. I thought that was clearly an INT. IMO.

It looks like possession, but it wasn't by rule. When you don't make the catch "on foot", then you have to maintain possession through the entire action. He lost it before stopping or making a "football move", therefore incomplete.

[bigdgp2]

The refs are frauds!!! CBS paid them off to keep the game close!!!!! lol

IMO, it was a bad call. Hopefully the Steelers win

[sebastian0622]

I thought they blew that review, but the ref made the judgment that the dive and roll over was part of the interception, and that Polamalu didn't make a subsequent football move after the INT.

I disagree and thought it was the wrong call to overturn it, but I can understand why he did.

[theasfl]

21-18...nice 2 point reception by Wayne...the Colts need a defense stop to stay alive

[Spielman]

Originally Posted by sebastian0622

Yeah, but just making a call because you have to make a call without any idea of what the correct call is is even worse. I'd rather a ref just say, "We didn't see who moved first, so we're going to replay the down" than say, "We didn't see who moved first, so we're going to guess."

My point is that the good alternative is to actually see who moved first in the first place.

[andymac]

Originally Posted by sebastian0622

I thought they blew that review, but the ref made the judgment that the dive and roll over was part of the interception, and that Polamalu didn't make a subsequent football move after the INT.

I disagree. He wasn't in control on the roll, so that wasn't a football move, then his knee knocked it out before he stopped or made another move.

[sebastian0622]

Originally Posted by Spielman

My point is that the good alternative is to actually see who moved first in the first place.

Yeah, but that's really idealistic. Refs miss calls, and that doesn't make them bad refs. This particular one was extremely difficult--I couldn't even see the Faneca twitch on replay. I'd rather they do the most equitable thing after those missed calls that do guesswork and possibly compound the problem with a random/incorrect call.

[sebastian0622]

The Steelers were doing well until they decided they couldn't pass any more.

[andymac]

Originally Posted by sebastian0622

Yeah, but that's really idealistic. Refs miss calls, and that doesn't make them bad refs. This particular one was extremely difficult--I couldn't even see the Faneca twitch on replay. I'd rather they do the most equitable thing after those missed calls.

Yea, I agree there. That Faneca flinch would have been extremely difficult to see. Especially by the side judge.

[theasfl]

Originally Posted by sebastian0622

The Steelers were doing well until they decided they couldn't pass any more.

they want to kill the clock, and have succeeded to this point

[sebastian0622]

Yeah, Walters, that half-second bobble cost your team at least 12 yards.

[Jair]

Originally Posted by andymac

I disagree. He wasn't in control on the roll, so that wasn't a football move, then his knee knocked it out before he stopped or made another move.

Just curious (not entirely disagreeing, as I want to see your point), how was Polamalu not in control? He had the ball in both hands, planted his feet, rolled over twice, and came up with the ball before it accidently hit his knee.