CubbyFan23's MLB 2006 Rosters Underway - Page 4

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 02:54 AM

Not a biggy, got a cheap (popups warning however) webspace to host on I'm sure out there to use for now.

I've just gotten through the Yankees, I'll be finishing up the Mets and posting what's done so far. I appreciate any and all input, as I'm sure in my haste, I've missed some minor league moves here and there.

Also, forgot to mention that salaries are all accurate (or should be), so make sure to mention that if you see anything wrong there. Just a heads up though, I didn't average out the entire deal to determine yearly salary, but rather took the remaining part of the deal, averaged it out over the years left, and used that. Hence, Derek Jeter's salary is around 19M, ARod around 27M (not 25.2), etc.

Also, a lot of guys had '07 options, so I tried to use my best judgement on whose contracts would be picked up, and whose wouldn't (opinions on Mussina's '07 at 16.5?)

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 06:08 AM

I lied.

We are figuring that the webspace should be up by tomorrow morning so I will wait until I wake up to post them so you guys can dodge some pop-ups. Good news is that teams should be done up to around Pittsburgh by the time I post them all.

mrkupe · 12-29-2005, 06:57 AM

I don't think anybody cares about pop-ups to be honest.

That being said, if you prefer to hold it until tomorrow for other reasons then it's just as well. Looking forward to seeing your work.

MBuser · 12-29-2005, 02:52 PM

sweet! thanks for the updates. and yeah no need to rush on our behalfs -- get it to where you are happy with it

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 05:39 PM

NOTES:

Teams are done through Philadelphia (alphabetically)... prospects are NOT done for AL teams, you'll have to wait until early January for the indepth changes on AL prospects, as BA's reports aren't out yet... One thing I tried to get dead on with these was lineups, and they look VERY good. Besides a few problems with the OOTP itself (not calling up a 3rd catcher behind Javy Lopez and Ramon Hernandez) it looks almost identical to '06 Opening Day Lineups for most of the teams. Keep in mind, some teams like Boston (who haven't added a CF yet) will have their reserves looking a bit off as they aren't finished with the offseason. Obviously Billy McMillon isn't going to start in CF, but they have no other CF right now.

Forgot to do Philly's prospects before I posted this, apologies to the Phillie fans out there.

You can look at the teams past Philly, but I haven't even touched them yet since '05, so they will probably look pretty goofy.

I'm cleaning out my private messages folder, so if you notice any errors on those teams, please send them to me. Also, if any of you are big fans of those AL teams, and know prospects, and can give me some sort of an idea on them, feel free to PM away as well.

Thanks guys!

http://members.tripod.com/cubbyfan23...les/index.html

ChampMan · 12-29-2005, 07:30 PM

just would like to say thanks for all your efforts, everything looks great so far, a few things i would like to point out about Atlanta Kyle Davies should have better ratings he is a top prospect and has already been effective in MLB service, also Atlanta being the 26 best farm system is kinda off, thanks again for everything keep up the good work!

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 07:51 PM

Fixed Davies -- not sure about a top prospect, but I definately think he has 2/3 starter material.

While they should be higher than 26, with the trade of Marte and Miner, and then the promotion of a ton of young guys (Francouer, Langerhans, Betemit, Davies, etc.) they no longer show up on the top prospects list, and thus won't contribute to the standing of the system, I don't see it much higher than 20 without all of those guys.

etoppsfan · 12-29-2005, 07:57 PM

Thanks for all your hard work. From what I have seen so far I am very impressed. When will you have the league zip file available? If posible I would like to get it now even if it is not complete.

thanks again.

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:09 PM

I'm going out late tonight, but since I still have a bit, I'm shooting for tomorrow night.

Slyder · 12-29-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

I'm going out late tonight, but since I still have a bit, I'm shooting for tomorrow night.

I've never played with the stats based on 100, how would those change when based on out of 10s?

http://tmfsl.biz/League/ this is one league I am a part of.

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slyder

I've never played with the stats based on 100, how would those change when based on out of 10s?

http://tmfsl.biz/League/ this is one league I am a part of.

When you change them to 1-10, it just adjusts them like dividing by 10. Hence a 70 contact = 7 contact

Slyder · 12-29-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampMan

just would like to say thanks for all your efforts, everything looks great so far, a few things i would like to point out about Atlanta Kyle Davies should have better ratings he is a top prospect and has already been effective in MLB service, also Atlanta being the 26 best farm system is kinda off, thanks again for everything keep up the good work!

Im a reds fan and this is from a Dedicated Braves fan from the site I follow asks:
Andruw Jones' power at 80? C'mon, the guy's had 30+ HRs 6 of the last 8 years. Not to mention the whole, leading the league in HRs thing last year. In comparison, A-Rod's HR power is 105. A-Rod plays in Yankee Stadium, and before that, Arlington.

60 speed for LaRoche? This guy is the slowest baserunner I've ever seen, and I've seen Mo Vaughn play, in person. I'd say 35 would be better off.

64 contact for Chipper aint doing him justice, either. Career .303 hitter, who hit .296 last year. C'mon, he's gotta be up in the 70s at least. Since I can't see it, I was wondering what Francoeur's arm was, as its the best on the Braves and I am including Druw.

68 endurance for Smoltzie aint doing justice to a man who averaged 7 innings a start last year and had 3 CGs, 6th highest in the MLB.

Another guy who got robbed was Blaine Boyer, who will most likely be our closer in 2006. He's got tremendous stuff and good control.

Chuck James and Lerew got lowballed on the stuff aspect, but otherwise they're fine.

Reitsma regularly throws 95.

Francoeur and Betemit are extremely fast, your speed aint doing them justice.

Elvis' contact and power could use a bit of a boost (I'd say 74 and 80, respectively) as he's the best SS prospect to come along since Alex Rodriguez (you might have heard of him).

Langerhans has a good eye, 75 or so, but his power isn't 67. I'd say 60 at best, as he's a 25-HR guy at best.

And Salty Dog...how you disrespect the Salty Dog! (Saltalamacchia). He's a .315-40 HRs prospect. He's 2 years away, but he has more potential than you gave him.

Oh, and switch Hampton and HoRam's stuff ratings and we'll be fine.

mrkupe · 12-29-2005, 08:27 PM

A selection of my many thoughts:

Hermida should probably be higher, as he's likely one of the top 5 (at least) prospects in the game. He's one of the three most likely prospects IMO to draw 100+ walks in a given season (along with Arizona's Conor Jackson and Carlos Quentin).

Ian Stewart is an interesting call, I would've had him at about 65 contact, 75 home run power, 75 plate discipline, 40-45 avoiding Ks. His range should be considerably higher, as he projects to be above-average (approaching GG-caliber) defensively. No Alex Gordon?

I think most will disagree with your judgement of Brandon Wood. I don't think he'll be much above average as a contact hitter, but he has tremendous raw power. Plate discipline is questionable, although we'll see how he plays at a level that he hasn't spent several months annihilating already.

As for pitchers, Francisco Liriano is a rather glaring omission. Rogers is closer to 90/55/70 at this point, with current control in the single digits. Volstad has pretty nasty stuff and is more like a 75-80 there talent-wise.

Lots of pretty solid work here. If you don't follow the minors that much it's difficult to get a good feel for things, but for the most part you're not doing too badly.

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slyder

Im a reds fan and this is from a Dedicated Braves fan from the site I follow asks:
Andruw Jones' power at 80? C'mon, the guy's had 30+ HRs 6 of the last 8 years. Not to mention the whole, leading the league in HRs thing last year. In comparison, A-Rod's HR power is 105. A-Rod plays in Yankee Stadium, and before that, Arlington.

60 speed for LaRoche? This guy is the slowest baserunner I've ever seen, and I've seen Mo Vaughn play, in person. I'd say 35 would be better off.

64 contact for Chipper aint doing him justice, either. Career .303 hitter, who hit .296 last year. C'mon, he's gotta be up in the 70s at least. Since I can't see it, I was wondering what Francoeur's arm was, as its the best on the Braves and I am including Druw.

68 endurance for Smoltzie aint doing justice to a man who averaged 7 innings a start last year and had 3 CGs, 6th highest in the MLB.

Another guy who got robbed was Blaine Boyer, who will most likely be our closer in 2006. He's got tremendous stuff and good control.

Chuck James and Lerew got lowballed on the stuff aspect, but otherwise they're fine.

Reitsma regularly throws 95.

Francoeur and Betemit are extremely fast, your speed aint doing them justice.

Elvis' contact and power could use a bit of a boost (I'd say 74 and 80, respectively) as he's the best SS prospect to come along since Alex Rodriguez (you might have heard of him).

Langerhans has a good eye, 75 or so, but his power isn't 67. I'd say 60 at best, as he's a 25-HR guy at best.

And Salty Dog...how you disrespect the Salty Dog! (Saltalamacchia). He's a .315-40 HRs prospect. He's 2 years away, but he has more potential than you gave him.

Oh, and switch Hampton and HoRam's stuff ratings and we'll be fine.

Actually I forgot to go back through and edit Andruw and Smoltz, all the ratings are from '05 at default, and I go back through and edit them, they'll both be fixed.

Chipper hasn't hit .300 since '03, I'd say that giving him a 64 contact coming off a .240 season and a .290 season with a potential for 70+ is about right.

Disagree on Lerew and James, James especially who doesn't have very good stuff at all. If anything, scouts are saying that his stats are very very impressive, but he doesn't project well.

Dealing with speed is a tough one, as I have no way of evaulating guys outside of what their #s say. 3 SB, 2 CS isn't very impressive for Francouer, but hopefully I can figure these out more as I go along. Since speed itself only effect speed on the basepaths, it looks pretty accurate right now.

There's no WAY Elvis or Saltalamacchia are that good, Elvis is still 17, and I have yet to see a scouting website call him the best SS in baseball (although he is among them) let alone the best since A-Rod. If you really think Salt is going .315-40 in the future I would love some of what you are smoking.

Stuff effects strikeouts, so I'm not really sure why you would want Hampton (27 K in 69 IP) and Ramirez (80 in 202 IP) switched, but they are pretty close anyway.

Hope that explains things.

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:34 PM

double post

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkupe

A selection of my many thoughts:

Hermida should probably be higher, as he's likely one of the top 5 (at least) prospects in the game. He's one of the three most likely prospects IMO to draw 100+ walks in a given season (along with Arizona's Conor Jackson and Carlos Quentin).

Ian Stewart is an interesting call, I would've had him at about 65 contact, 75 home run power, 75 plate discipline, 40-45 avoiding Ks. His range should be considerably higher, as he projects to be above-average (approaching GG-caliber) defensively. No Alex Gordon?

I think most will disagree with your judgement of Brandon Wood. I don't think he'll be much above average as a contact hitter, but he has tremendous raw power. Plate discipline is questionable, although we'll see how he plays at a level that he hasn't spent several months annihilating already.

As for pitchers, Francisco Liriano is a rather glaring omission. Rogers is closer to 90/55/70 at this point, with current control in the single digits. Volstad has pretty nasty stuff and is more like a 75-80 there talent-wise.

Lots of pretty solid work here. If you don't follow the minors that much it's difficult to get a good feel for things, but for the most part you're not doing too badly.

AL prospects have not even been touched yet, mentioned that a bit back. Liriano will definately be up there as I'm a big fan of his, as will Wood.

Slyder · 12-29-2005, 08:38 PM

Reds Fan..

Didnt expect Griffey to be much more than that...

But the rest of these seem very low.

Are these the "talent ratings" or as they would be at the start of any league?

CubbyFan23 · 12-29-2005, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slyder

Reds Fan..

Didnt expect Griffey to be much more than that...

But the rest of these seem very low.

Are these the "talent ratings" or as they would be at the start of any league?

I'm not sure where you're looking so I have no idea?

Slyder · 12-29-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Actually I forgot to go back through and edit Andruw and Smoltz, all the ratings are from '05 at default, and I go back through and edit them, they'll both be fixed.

Chipper hasn't hit .300 since '03, I'd say that giving him a 64 contact coming off a .240 season and a .290 season with a potential for 70+ is about right.

Disagree on Lerew and James, James especially who doesn't have very good stuff at all. If anything, scouts are saying that his stats are very very impressive, but he doesn't project well.

Dealing with speed is a tough one, as I have no way of evaulating guys outside of what their #s say. 3 SB, 2 CS isn't very impressive for Francouer, but hopefully I can figure these out more as I go along. Since speed itself only effect speed on the basepaths, it looks pretty accurate right now.
Jarrod Saltalamacchia was named as the first-team catcher in the minor leagues for 2005. "Salty Dog" hit .314 for the Myrtle Beach Pelicans, along with 19 home runs, 81 RBI, and a .394 on base percentage.

There's no WAY Elvis or Saltalamacchia are that good, Elvis is still 17, and I have yet to see a scouting website call him the best SS in baseball (although he is among them) let alone the best since A-Rod. If you really think Salt is going .315-40 in the future I would love some of what you are smoking.

Stuff effects strikeouts, so I'm not really sure why you would want Hampton (27 K in 69 IP) and Ramirez (80 in 202 IP) switched, but they are pretty close anyway.

Hope that explains things.

Again Devoted Braves fan speaking...

James had a remarkable 2005 season in the Braves' organization. He started in Myrtle Beach and ended his season in Atlanta. James went 13-7 in 29 starts in the minor leagues with an ERA of 2.12. He allowed only 103 hits in 161.1 innings pitched, 38 earned runs, 36 walks, and 193 strikeouts.

Then James was promoted to Atlanta in late September and pitched in two major league games. He allowed only one run on four hits in 5.2 innings, with three walks and five strikeouts.

Boyer just finished his first season in the big leagues. He was called up in early June and had a fantastic rookie season, going 4-2 with a 3.11 ERA in 43 games. He allowed only 32 hits in 37.2 innings pitched, along with 17 walks and 33 strikeouts.

He agrees that he exaggerated on the 40 HRs but still says he should hit 300.

mrkupe · 12-29-2005, 08:41 PM

Response to Slyder:

Lerew has some nice stuff, but James is a finesse lefty. A very effective finesse lefty thus far, but the fact remains.

Elvis is no A-Rod or anywhere near there just yet. Brandon Wood is a considerably better SS prospect and he's played at more advanced levels. And yes, I know Elvis is 16. When he's 19 and hitting 40-something home runs in a season, we'll talk. Justin Upton if included would be much higher as well.

I will agree on Salty, though. Looks to be a real fine hitter, although predicting him to be a .300+ 40 HR/year type of guy is a bit much. That'd make him a HoF caliber player at any position, and I'm not willing to make that projection for anybody, let alone a guy who hasn't played in Double A yet.

I'd have him in the area of 75 contact, 70 home run power, 65-70 plate discipline off the top of my head. Not too far off of what Cubbyfan's set has him at. He might be considerably better as a hitter given that Mytle Beach is a big time pitcher's park, but given the development tendencies of catchers I'd be wary of reaching for the sky on him. 4, borderline 4.5 star prospect.

12-29-2005, 07:30 PM	#66
ChampMan Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Melbourne,FL Posts: 363	just would like to say thanks for all your efforts, everything looks great so far, a few things i would like to point out about Atlanta Kyle Davies should have better ratings he is a top prospect and has already been effective in MLB service, also Atlanta being the 26 best farm system is kinda off, thanks again for everything keep up the good work! __________________ http://burrowsleague.com/BLBWeb.html

12-29-2005, 07:57 PM	#68
etoppsfan Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10	Thank You!!! Thanks for all your hard work. From what I have seen so far I am very impressed. When will you have the league zip file available? If posible I would like to get it now even if it is not complete. thanks again.

12-29-2005, 08:34 PM	#75
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	double post Last edited by CubbyFan23; 12-29-2005 at 08:36 PM.

12-29-2005, 02:54 AM	#61
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Not a biggy, got a cheap (popups warning however) webspace to host on I'm sure out there to use for now. I've just gotten through the Yankees, I'll be finishing up the Mets and posting what's done so far. I appreciate any and all input, as I'm sure in my haste, I've missed some minor league moves here and there. Also, forgot to mention that salaries are all accurate (or should be), so make sure to mention that if you see anything wrong there. Just a heads up though, I didn't average out the entire deal to determine yearly salary, but rather took the remaining part of the deal, averaged it out over the years left, and used that. Hence, Derek Jeter's salary is around 19M, ARod around 27M (not 25.2), etc. Also, a lot of guys had '07 options, so I tried to use my best judgement on whose contracts would be picked up, and whose wouldn't (opinions on Mussina's '07 at 16.5?)

12-29-2005, 06:08 AM	#62
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	I lied. We are figuring that the webspace should be up by tomorrow morning so I will wait until I wake up to post them so you guys can dodge some pop-ups. Good news is that teams should be done up to around Pittsburgh by the time I post them all.

12-29-2005, 06:57 AM	#63
mrkupe Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17	I don't think anybody cares about pop-ups to be honest. That being said, if you prefer to hold it until tomorrow for other reasons then it's just as well. Looking forward to seeing your work.

12-29-2005, 02:52 PM	#64
MBuser Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: menlo park, ca Posts: 18	sweet! thanks for the updates. and yeah no need to rush on our behalfs -- get it to where you are happy with it

12-29-2005, 05:39 PM	#65
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	NOTES: Teams are done through Philadelphia (alphabetically)... prospects are NOT done for AL teams, you'll have to wait until early January for the indepth changes on AL prospects, as BA's reports aren't out yet... One thing I tried to get dead on with these was lineups, and they look VERY good. Besides a few problems with the OOTP itself (not calling up a 3rd catcher behind Javy Lopez and Ramon Hernandez) it looks almost identical to '06 Opening Day Lineups for most of the teams. Keep in mind, some teams like Boston (who haven't added a CF yet) will have their reserves looking a bit off as they aren't finished with the offseason. Obviously Billy McMillon isn't going to start in CF, but they have no other CF right now. Forgot to do Philly's prospects before I posted this, apologies to the Phillie fans out there. You can look at the teams past Philly, but I haven't even touched them yet since '05, so they will probably look pretty goofy. I'm cleaning out my private messages folder, so if you notice any errors on those teams, please send them to me. Also, if any of you are big fans of those AL teams, and know prospects, and can give me some sort of an idea on them, feel free to PM away as well. Thanks guys! http://members.tripod.com/cubbyfan23...les/index.html

12-29-2005, 07:51 PM	#67
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Fixed Davies -- not sure about a top prospect, but I definately think he has 2/3 starter material. While they should be higher than 26, with the trade of Marte and Miner, and then the promotion of a ton of young guys (Francouer, Langerhans, Betemit, Davies, etc.) they no longer show up on the top prospects list, and thus won't contribute to the standing of the system, I don't see it much higher than 20 without all of those guys.

12-29-2005, 08:09 PM	#69
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	I'm going out late tonight, but since I still have a bit, I'm shooting for tomorrow night.

12-29-2005, 08:27 PM	#73
mrkupe Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17	A selection of my many thoughts: Hermida should probably be higher, as he's likely one of the top 5 (at least) prospects in the game. He's one of the three most likely prospects IMO to draw 100+ walks in a given season (along with Arizona's Conor Jackson and Carlos Quentin). Ian Stewart is an interesting call, I would've had him at about 65 contact, 75 home run power, 75 plate discipline, 40-45 avoiding Ks. His range should be considerably higher, as he projects to be above-average (approaching GG-caliber) defensively. No Alex Gordon? I think most will disagree with your judgement of Brandon Wood. I don't think he'll be much above average as a contact hitter, but he has tremendous raw power. Plate discipline is questionable, although we'll see how he plays at a level that he hasn't spent several months annihilating already. As for pitchers, Francisco Liriano is a rather glaring omission. Rogers is closer to 90/55/70 at this point, with current control in the single digits. Volstad has pretty nasty stuff and is more like a 75-80 there talent-wise. Lots of pretty solid work here. If you don't follow the minors that much it's difficult to get a good feel for things, but for the most part you're not doing too badly.

12-29-2005, 08:38 PM	#77
Slyder Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10	Reds Fan.. Didnt expect Griffey to be much more than that... But the rest of these seem very low. Are these the "talent ratings" or as they would be at the start of any league?

12-29-2005, 08:41 PM	#80
mrkupe Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17	Response to Slyder: Lerew has some nice stuff, but James is a finesse lefty. A very effective finesse lefty thus far, but the fact remains. Elvis is no A-Rod or anywhere near there just yet. Brandon Wood is a considerably better SS prospect and he's played at more advanced levels. And yes, I know Elvis is 16. When he's 19 and hitting 40-something home runs in a season, we'll talk. Justin Upton if included would be much higher as well. I will agree on Salty, though. Looks to be a real fine hitter, although predicting him to be a .300+ 40 HR/year type of guy is a bit much. That'd make him a HoF caliber player at any position, and I'm not willing to make that projection for anybody, let alone a guy who hasn't played in Double A yet. I'd have him in the area of 75 contact, 70 home run power, 65-70 plate discipline off the top of my head. Not too far off of what Cubbyfan's set has him at. He might be considerably better as a hitter given that Mytle Beach is a big time pitcher's park, but given the development tendencies of catchers I'd be wary of reaching for the sky on him. 4, borderline 4.5 star prospect.