Graphics Collection from CD's Ultra-Fine House of Style

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I will likely need or want to see the historical looks for the White River White Sox/Rascals so that I can hopefully better do things for them, I think, EC. Think you could provide them to me or post them here, for my viewing and all?

I'll also need a version of the IPA league logo(s) dated 1901 instead of 2001, I'm sure, at least for my quickstart idea, if not for any other ideas of mine as well. Please see what you can do in that regard for me here. Thank you. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

I will likely need or want to see the historical looks for the White River White Sox/Rascals so that I can hopefully better do things for them, I think, EC. Think you could provide them to me or post them here, for my viewing and all?

I'll also need a version of the IPA league logo(s) dated 1901 instead of 2001, I'm sure, at least for my quickstart idea, if not for any other ideas of mine as well. Please see what you can do in that regard for me here. Thank you. CD out.

All I have is what you got for the White River Rascals... these are all of the caps and jerseys I have... I don't update graphics much... it's too hard to get anyone's help anymore on this Forum... most rebranding has been done by me out of necessity... and as you know my graphics works is basically mediocre to average... sometimes better than average as in the case of the Avalon Valiants in my North Island League... that came out darn good because I found good images and the Lettering already done... all I have to do was use justafan's great software and put it together.

Here is the White River logo.

[Eugene Church]

As far as shipping you my IPA stuff, when I learn how to zip the files to you, I will send them... may take a while.

CD, keep it simple when you create graphics for me... just use my colors and my suggestions and go to work on it... that's all you need.

Most of my IPA graphics were done with just me posting colors wanted, mascot images if I had them and general instructions... make them traditional with good contrast on the lettering, jerseys and caps... in my opinion, the basic, simple logos, jerseys and caps usually show up best in the game... fancy stuff is hard to see and figure out... the fancy graphics are great at 300 x 300, but they lose a lot at 150 x 150 and really lose a lot at 50 x 50.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Not actually T-shirts, Kenobi, but uniforms and caps mostly from me, with various logos generally done by others, whether or not I recolored any of them, in truth. But there will certainly be at least a few, if not a lot, more items posted here, if and whenever possible, I'm quite sure, Lord willing and all. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Let's see if these items will work for you, at least in terms of uniforms, EC. IF you want changes, then feel free to let me know, as always, as you like and can. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

#1 is somewhat like the style I want... definite no on the other three... they look like your preferences in jerseys, not mine... the second one with the stripes is not pretty at all... certainly not my taste and style.

Go back and look at the jerseys I posted that I liked... do the White River like them... do not use shoulder stripes... make the collar, undershirt and the short sleeves the same color.

Are you sure you want to do all of the revisions that will be required to do them as I would like?... remember you did 10 revisions on the Hillsboro Blazers before it was what I liked... you must have done 20 different versions and I only used one of them and one of the caps... I already had an away jersey done by knuckler.

Here are the current Hillsboro's jerseys and caps... you did a fine job on the Home Jersey and the Caps... the H with the speed-blur lines is really nice.

Use them as an example of style of jerseys I want on the White River Rascals.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

It may not have been ten revisions, but it was certainly at least a couple, if not a few, I believe, before I had done something you felt you could live with well enough and use in your IPA. So no pinstripes, then, for the Rascals, I take it.

Caveat is the font name. I used the following color codes for the above items, and the orange-yellow is one of the default available colors in justafan's software, in truth. I tried using several script-style fonts, but they didn't look good enough to stick with, for they were generally too spiky in their respective natures with the required letters, whenever trimming was incorporated.

f8f0f4 (248, 240, 244) Snow
f05028 (240, 80, 40) Orange Soda
d0d0d0 (208, 208, 208) Light Gray
1a181c (26, 24, 28) Raisin Black

I did try to give you some good possible away uniforms, of course, but I can certainly try to improve them, EC. As for the uniform with the logo on it, I was thinking something along the lines of the Cubs, for instance, would potentially work fairly well for them. But I can try to improve that one as well, if you like, for sure.

Listen, EC, I'm a bit stuck on certain writing projects at the moment. Maybe trying to do some more graphics in the meantime might help me gain some inspiration and help me get past the current writer's blocks I've been dealing with for a while, somehow. And besides, I need to try and improve my graphics skills and gain more experience anyway, most likely. So let's see what the Lord leads me to do here, and see if what comes out of doing so might meet sufficiently with your satisfaction here. He certainly helped me with the Hillsboro items, and I have absolutely no doubt at all in my mind about that.

If He did so with the items I did for Hillsboro, He can certainly help me try and do better-looking and better-quality items for at least Fairfax's Frogs and the White River Rascals, you know, if and when and how He so chooses and all. So let's see what the Master Artist provides to you through me, okay, EC? CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Twenty uniforms for the Blazers and six caps, it seems. Some white, some yellow, some red, and some brown, for either caps or uniforms, if not both. You liked some of the cap and/or uniform alternates, as well, but seeing as OOTP doesn't allow us to have slots yet for alternate items we can use automatically at certain times in our dynasties, you've no doubt not used all of them yet, if you ever will.

I'll see what I can do to come up with more potential items that you can and most likely would use for the Rascals, in any case. Please stay tuned. Thank you. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

As for just how we might be able to actually send some things electronically to others, I believe we both asked how to do so recently, if memory serves. I don't have the links for the applicable threads at the moment, but it still might be a good idea for us both to search for recent related threads of us both, I think, EC. Just so you know. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

CD, I just quickly did a White River Home Jersey... I will use this if I don't get someone to do it better... and be happy with the Home Jersey... don't really like the Away... need a nice script font with a swoosh... I don't have script font and have never figured out how to do a swoosh using justafan.

Try to do something similar to this and see how you can do it... follow my instructions and see what you can come up with... if yours is better, I will be happy to use it.

Pick a font... use all cap letters... jersey White... short sleeves White... make the collar and undershirt Reddish Orange... the sleeve stripes Reddish Orange/Orange/Reddish Orange... the V-Neck thick bi-color (thin color Orange... thick color Reddish Orange)... Buttons (Colored Gap... color Orange)

Orange: 255 192 0
Reddish Orange: 255 0 0
Dark Red: 191 0 0

The Dark Red was used on the Lettering for RASCALS... I trimmed it with Orange (Outline 1) and Orange (Outline 2)... both Outline colors were set very low... both were set at 2.

Use the default settings for the shading... use "None" for Texture.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, I'll see what I can come up with, then. Thank you for letting me try, at least, of course, EC. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, then, let's see if these are more to your liking, EC. Please let me know if you like them, and all. Perhaps I can do ones with a logo on them later, much like on the Cubs uniforms, for instance. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

You really done well, CD... those look almost perfect.

I like your Home White better than mine... your font is better... and your lettering is crisp and clear... better than mine.

Would you please make these revisions on the Home White... remove the v-neck... it does blend well with the Orange collar.
Make the buttons Orange.

Please lighten the shading... it is too dark... look at my shading on my jerseys... it is lighter.

[Eugene Church]

On the Away Gray please make these revisions... Jersey #2... I will use this for my Away Jersey if you make the following changes.

Make the Shading lighter.

Make the WHITE RIVER lettering Reddish Orange and trim it in Black, like you did on the Home White jersey.

Make the Buttons Light Gray like I did on the Away Gray jersey.

[Eugene Church]

#3 Away Gray with WR is fine.
Only two revisions... make the Shading lighter... and make the Buttons Light Gray.

You really did a wonderful job on all 3 jerseys... you are better than me technically with the fonts and lettering... I am a better designer, me thinks.

I am better at coordinating colors than you are.

When you do traditional styles and colors like these, I think people would use your work... it is very good.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, I'll see what I can do. Hopefully, I'll be able to make the requested changes by tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest. Please stay tuned. Thank you.

As far as colors being traditional and all, I think that would most likely often depend on just where a particular team or league would come from, don't you think? Many American teams and/or leagues often use red, white, and/or blue, or shades of such in their team or league-related official colors, for example, when teams from other countries might use others, of course, for various reasons.

As far as us each being able to coordinate colors used on items many times, I do agree you may be better to a certain degree fairly often at doing so than I am, and more often than I do, but I still do coordinate colors well sometimes as well. Maybe not as often as you do, of course, but at least sometimes, if I'm not too mistaken here.

I'll try to let you know the font or fonts in question later, after I've tried to make the requested changes to the items already made, or new versions of them, if I can remember to do so well enough somehow here. Then you can see if you can find them online somewhere, of course. Thank you for your time and attention and input and all, as always, EC. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Do the revisions at your convenience... there is no rush to get them done.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Hobo BT is the font in question here. Here are the revised uniforms, per your requested changes. Hopefully these will meet sufficiently with your approval. As for changes to the relevant logo or logos, someone else will have to do them, of course. I may try to do at least one uniform, though, with a logo instead of text on it, just so you know, for you. That is all. CD out.

P.S. I honestly do think that White River could certainly use at least one new orange alternate uniform and/or cap, as well. Let me see if I can't improve the orange one you saw earlier, and/or the orange-yellow one that I also posted as well, please. Thank you in advance if you do so. Maybe pinstripes wouldn't work for them, of course, but was just trying some things out with both the orange and the logo-featuring uniforms, you see. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Great Job, CD.

All three are excellent... thanks for making the shading lighter... I will use them in the IPA.

LOOK OUT!
CD looks like he is going to give the big graphics guys some competition!

I don't need an alternate jersey, but if you would like to create one, that is up to you.

Create an Reddish Orange Jersey with RASCALS... do all the other elements the way you did on the other three.

Make the short sleeves ORANGE... and the undershirt BLACK.... use the light shading...collar Black... no v-neck... make RASCALS lettering REDDISH ORANGE with BLACK trim... use the same stripe colors on the sleeves...Reddish Orange/Orange/Reddish Orange.

If you would like to create your own versions of the White River Rascals, go ahead and do it... do them the way you are inspired to do them... just please yourself.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Maybe I can use the White River Rascals items you don't like in my IPA version(s), EC. But I'll probably still want or need to see what else you may have collected currently for historical looks of theirs, of course, later on. Even from when you had them as the White Sox, perhaps.

I don't know exactly how certain other teams' looks will turn out yet, obviously. But hopefully whichever teams have things made for them, whether past, present, and/or future, they still will look quite good on average whenever used in people's games, somehow.

Will write more later as I can and all, I'm sure. But probably not for at least a little while, or at least not at somewhat greater length than this, EC. CD out.