WC 2006 Official Thread - Page 355

redmarkYankees · 06-20-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

And still better than David James in an England shirt

Scott Carson!

I demand another Liverpool player in the England team, or I may transfer allegiance to Spain.

bababui · 06-20-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by redmarkYankees

Scott Carson!

I demand another Liverpool player in the England team, or I may transfer allegiance to Spain.

Well trade you Kasey Keller for Wayne Rooney!

redmarkYankees · 06-20-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Well trade you Kasey Keller for Wayne Rooney!

Nice try. You forget that Keller spent most of his career in England, and we know he's a bit rubbish.

Sdpm100 · 06-20-2006, 06:13 PM

Goodnight all.

See you tomorrow for another two pairs of games. Argentina/Netherlands and Portugal/Mexico

bababui · 06-20-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by redmarkYankees

Nice try. You forget that Keller spent most of his career in England, and we know he's a bit rubbish.

He was pretty good against Italy

But Rooney has also been a little rubbish himself..a change of scenery can only help these men.

bababui · 06-20-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Goodnight all.

See you tomorrow for another two pairs of games. Argentina/Netherlands and Portugal/Mexico

\Night SDPM 100....hope today wasnt completly disappointong for you

Sdpm100 · 06-20-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

\Night SDPM 100....hope today wasnt completly disappointong for you

Nah, the games were pretty good - I'm a fan of the sport remember.

See all you guys tomorrow.

redmarkYankees · 06-20-2006, 06:20 PM

Night y'all.

theasfl · 06-20-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Willis 16

Didn't take off enough.

wouldnt want her to take off anymore.

theasfl · 06-20-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

FIFA robs us of a great Holland v Argentina match tomorrow by some silly yellows

it probably wouldnt be too much different regardless since theyve clinched already

The Funk · 06-20-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by redmarkYankees

Liverpool in talks with Craig Bellamy.

Bellamy may be a lippy little gimp but he's a fantastic footballer, especially now that he's learnt how to kick the ball past the goalkeeper. I think he's just the sort of guy Liverpool need; he's aggressive, lightning quick and works the flanks well, he'd play really well with Crouch, and at (a reported) 6 million he'd be a steal. He's had a few off the field issues and can't keep his gob shut on it, but he always gives everything in every match. He has that never-say-die attitude that great players have.

The Funk · 06-20-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Willis 16

Is a nutmeg when you pass the ball to yourself through the defenders legs?

Doesn't have to go back to yourself. Just kicking it through another players legs is a nutmeg, whether passing, shooting or dribbling.

The Funk · 06-20-2006, 09:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEydQpLmp0I - Vid. of Cole's goal

bababui · 06-20-2006, 09:32 PM

Here is a pic of Gole's coal

The Funk · 06-20-2006, 09:53 PM

That's a nice piece of coal if I don't say so myself.

ukhotstove · 06-21-2006, 06:27 AM

One thing that last night proved again and that is Peter Crouch as yet to score against quality opposition, they keep going on about him scoring 6 goals in his last 5 games but fail to mention the goals came against 1 Uruguay (didn't qualify for World Cup), 1 Hungary (didn't qualify for World Cup), 3 against the mighty Jamaica (again didn't qualify for the World Cup) and 1 Trinidad & Tobago.

Even most of his goals last season in the Premiership came against teams that finished well down the league like Fulham, West Brom, Portsmouth and Birmingham City even had 2 credited against Wigan Athletic when one was clearly an own goal.

No doubt he will score against Ecuador and be claimed a football great when in fact he has as much right as being in the squad as Owen Hargreaves which imo is zero, as Crouch is nowhere near as good as Defoe (number of goals scored last season proves it) and Hargreaves should have been dropped from the squad for someone like Bent (extra forward in the squad) as Carrick could easily have done the same job last night as Hargreaves and probably better.

redmarkYankees · 06-21-2006, 07:02 AM

Crouch isn't in the squad to score goals, though, he's there to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Despite his size, that doesn't mean England should be pumping balls at his head, because he's not great in the air. He is good at receiving balls at his feet, on his chest, on his thigh, with his back to goal, holding it up and laying it off intelligently to a midfielder, or (not quite so good) threading it through for a quick striker.

I don't know anyone who suggests Crouch is a "great" player, not even the most loyal of Liverpool fans. Intelligent and useful, yes. No-one pretends he's a great goalscorer. He shouldn't be plan A, but he's a decent option. Not his fault SGE didn't pick 5 strikers, or picked 2 unfit ones, or picked a teenager he seems unwilling to actually use. I would definitely have taken Bent for his goalscoring last season; Defoe didn't have a great year, but he could have left Walcott behind and taken both.

As for Hargreaves - give him some credit, he had a good game. Carrick might have had a good game given the chance, but it would have been a different style. Regardless, Hargreaves did have a good game. He brough tempo and bustle to the midfield, which Carrick wouldn't necessarily. In the second half, it was Beckham who disappeared, and Cole/Lampard who don't bother tracking back - Hargreaves was overrun because of the lack of support until Gerrard came on, but worked his socks off.

redmarkYankees · 06-21-2006, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Funk

Bellamy may be a lippy little gimp but he's a fantastic footballer, especially now that he's learnt how to kick the ball past the goalkeeper. I think he's just the sort of guy Liverpool need; he's aggressive, lightning quick and works the flanks well, he'd play really well with Crouch, and at (a reported) 6 million he'd be a steal. He's had a few off the field issues and can't keep his gob shut on it, but he always gives everything in every match. He has that never-say-die attitude that great players have.

I agree, more or less, it's just the lippy little gimp bit that annoys me. Plus, I'd rather we were signing virtually any of the other strikers we've been linked with (Bent, Defoe, Kuyt, Villa, etc, etc).

redmarkYankees · 06-21-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Crouch is nowhere near as good as Defoe (number of goals scored last season proves it).

Oh; Defoe scored 9 goals in 38 games last season. Crouch scored 13 in 50. A similar strike rate, maybe, but your point doesn't stand up. Crouch makes far more for teammates, too.

The Funk · 06-21-2006, 09:15 AM

Owen could be out for 5 months.

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06-20-2006, 06:20 PM	#7088
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	Night y'all. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

06-20-2006, 09:25 PM	#7093
The Funk All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Watford Posts: 903	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEydQpLmp0I - Vid. of Cole's goal __________________ Talkin' 'bout the issues but keepin' it funky!

06-20-2006, 09:32 PM	#7094
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Here is a pic of Gole's coal Last edited by bababui; 02-25-2008 at 12:44 AM.

06-20-2006, 09:53 PM	#7095
The Funk All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Watford Posts: 903	That's a nice piece of coal if I don't say so myself. __________________ Talkin' 'bout the issues but keepin' it funky!

06-21-2006, 06:27 AM	#7096
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	One thing that last night proved again and that is Peter Crouch as yet to score against quality opposition, they keep going on about him scoring 6 goals in his last 5 games but fail to mention the goals came against 1 Uruguay (didn't qualify for World Cup), 1 Hungary (didn't qualify for World Cup), 3 against the mighty Jamaica (again didn't qualify for the World Cup) and 1 Trinidad & Tobago. Even most of his goals last season in the Premiership came against teams that finished well down the league like Fulham, West Brom, Portsmouth and Birmingham City even had 2 credited against Wigan Athletic when one was clearly an own goal. No doubt he will score against Ecuador and be claimed a football great when in fact he has as much right as being in the squad as Owen Hargreaves which imo is zero, as Crouch is nowhere near as good as Defoe (number of goals scored last season proves it) and Hargreaves should have been dropped from the squad for someone like Bent (extra forward in the squad) as Carrick could easily have done the same job last night as Hargreaves and probably better. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

06-20-2006, 06:13 PM	#7084
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,644	Goodnight all. See you tomorrow for another two pairs of games. Argentina/Netherlands and Portugal/Mexico

06-21-2006, 07:02 AM	#7097
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	Crouch isn't in the squad to score goals, though, he's there to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Despite his size, that doesn't mean England should be pumping balls at his head, because he's not great in the air. He is good at receiving balls at his feet, on his chest, on his thigh, with his back to goal, holding it up and laying it off intelligently to a midfielder, or (not quite so good) threading it through for a quick striker. I don't know anyone who suggests Crouch is a "great" player, not even the most loyal of Liverpool fans. Intelligent and useful, yes. No-one pretends he's a great goalscorer. He shouldn't be plan A, but he's a decent option. Not his fault SGE didn't pick 5 strikers, or picked 2 unfit ones, or picked a teenager he seems unwilling to actually use. I would definitely have taken Bent for his goalscoring last season; Defoe didn't have a great year, but he could have left Walcott behind and taken both. As for Hargreaves - give him some credit, he had a good game. Carrick might have had a good game given the chance, but it would have been a different style. Regardless, Hargreaves did have a good game. He brough tempo and bustle to the midfield, which Carrick wouldn't necessarily. In the second half, it was Beckham who disappeared, and Cole/Lampard who don't bother tracking back - Hargreaves was overrun because of the lack of support until Gerrard came on, but worked his socks off. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

06-21-2006, 09:15 AM	#7100
The Funk All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Watford Posts: 903	Owen could be out for 5 months. Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. Bollocks! __________________ Talkin' 'bout the issues but keepin' it funky! Last edited by The Funk; 06-21-2006 at 09:17 AM.