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CONN CHRIS · 05-31-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

** note for Chris, Bob McAllister remained inactive this month stays stuck at 3-0

I'm betting he will win 10-15 before encountering any real difficulty.

mh2365 · 05-31-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I'm betting he will win 10-15 before encountering any real difficulty.

As long as he doesn't run into Dillon before then

mh2365 · 05-31-2005, 07:56 PM

Four pretty good matches this month

HW - (LBF) Peter Jackson (27-5) vs #3 James Corbett (25-7-2) (Jackson won a UD10 in 1901)

MW - (LBC) Charles McCoy (20-7-3) vs #2 Rube Ferns (22-10) (Ferns tries to win the title at MW after going 0-4 in WW title bouts)

WW - (LBA) Honey Mellody (14-12) vs #5 Tommy West (12-2-1)

FW - (LBC) Young Corbett (15-12-4) vs #1 Aurelio Herrera (12-6) (rematch of April's controversial stoppage, 3rd match between the two with each winning one)

javier_83 · 05-31-2005, 08:21 PM

CMON AURELIO

you should win this time

who is going to be the referi

mh2365 · 06-02-2005, 05:51 AM

August 2, 1908

Peter Jackson (28-5) scored a TKO14 over #3 James Corbett (25-8-2) to wind his 2nd LBF title defense.

Jackson needed a KO or TKO to win this fight as Corbett pretty much put the fight out of reach in the 12th.

Corbett came out in his usual boring style and boxed his way to a 4 round to 0 lead early in the fight. Jackson then took command of the fight, landing several power punched over the next few rounds, drawing Corbett into a brawl.

Jackson dropped Corbett in the 6th and then Corbett's eye started swelling in the 8th. Corbett won the 5th through the 9th and appeared to be cruising.

Corbett then regained control in the 10th and 11th to even things up. In the 12th Corbett dropped Jackson twice and had Jackson in trouble on the ropes when the bell sounded.

Corbett then won the 13th as Jackson tried to shake out the cobwebs.

Jackson stunned Corbett early in the 14th and then pounded a near defenseless Corbett for 2 minutes until the ref finally stopped in. There was no protest from the Corbett corner, although there might be once Corbett regains his senses

I had it 120-124 Corbett at the time of the stoppage. Ringside expert, Harry Otty, had it 121-125. The official judges had it 120-124 x2, 121-123.

On the undercard
HW - Larry Foley (20-7-2) UD10 Frank Mantell (8-2)
LHW - Jack Root (29-7-1) UD10 Mike McCoole (10-12-2)
MW - Mike Donovan (21-14-3) MTD9 Al Greenfield (14-19-3) (Greenfield drops to club)
FW - Martin Flaherty (7-7-3) UD10 Eddie Lenny (7-5-3)
HW - Herbert Slade (13-15-2) UD10 Henry Higgans (10-18) (club fight)

mh2365 · 06-02-2005, 12:04 PM

August 10, 1908

Charles McCoy (21-7-3) pulled out a close UD15 over #2 Rube Ferns (22-11) for his 4th defense of the LBC MW title.

McCoy dropped Ferns in the first and it looked to be a quick contest until Ferns landed a big right hand to drop McCoy in the second. Ferns pounded away and even started McCoy's right eye swelling, but he couldn't finish it.

The fight was pretty even over the next 8 rounds but going into the 11th it looked as though Ferns had the advantage as McCoy was exhausted. But Ferns just didn't do enough to take the fight and McCoy edge out the victory.

I had it 143-142. Ringside expert, Aurelio Barrios, had it 143-141. The official judges gave some close rounds to McCoy and had it 144-140 x 2 and 145-139.

On the undercard

FW - Cal McCarthy (9-1) UD10 Clarence Forbes (11-10)
HW - Jack Burns (13-4) KO7 Jimmy Elliot (22-5-3) (nice upset for Burns)
LH - Al Weinig (8-10) UD10 Charles Goff (11-7-2) (Goff stepping up to LH for this fight)
MW - Walter Coffey (8-0) UD8 Billy Kramer (5-2) (Coffey moves up to main after this club fight, both fighters at pp)
FW - Harry Decker (6-3) MD8 Dick Mills (6-1) (both fighters at pp for this club fight)

mh2365 · 06-02-2005, 12:05 PM

As a side note I am going to re-write all the rules for my universe and post them again in case anyone is interested. It'll take me a couple of days to organize all my 4x6 cards into something more clear.

javier_83 · 06-02-2005, 12:45 PM

its ok

maybe i can take some ideas

CONN CHRIS · 06-02-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

As a side note I am going to re-write all the rules for my universe and post them again in case anyone is interested. It'll take me a couple of days to organize all my 4x6 cards into something more clear.

I'd like to see what you put together. My 'rules' are a bit scattered at the moment and I am always interested in ideas.

Christopher

mh2365 · 06-03-2005, 12:00 PM

August 18, 1908

Aurelio Herrera (13-6) won back the LBC Featherweight crown with a KO8 over Young Corbett (15-13-4) in a rematch of their controversial April bout.

Corbett who was hurt by Herrera's power in the first 3 rounds of the April fight tried to stay on the outside this time. He won the first round. Then Herrera pounded him in the second. The 3rd round was close and then Herrera took over the fight.

Corbett when down in the 4th and Herrera clobbered him once he got up. Both of Corbett's eyes were swelling by the end of the round. The next two rounds were close but Corbett's eyes continued to swell and he was cut under his left eye.

Herrera almost had Corbett out on the ropes in the 7th as Young was saved by the bell. Then Herrera dropped him for good to start the 8th.

On the undercard (good one)
HW - Joe Choynski (25-9-1) UD10 Dick Matthews (8-2)
MW - Billy Papke (13-0) TKO9 Kid Broad (8-1) (battle of unbeatens, Papke looking real good)
WW - Kyle Whitney (12-2-2) SD10 Terry Martin (11-1) (both fighters down, I thought Martin did enough to win)
LW - Arthur Douglas (8-0) UD8 Harry Stone (6-2) (both fighters at pp for this club fight, Douglas moves to main)
MW - Denny Kelliher (14-16-3) KO9 Tommy Chandler (12-20-2)

mh2365 · 06-05-2005, 10:39 AM

August 30, 1908

Honey Mellody (15-12) made his first defense of the LBA Welterweight title with basically just one punch. He scored a KO6 over #5 Tommy West (12-3-1).

West won the first five rounds by a fairly large margin, but was dropped with one big left hook early in the 6th and couldn't beat the count. Mellody not known for his power said after the fight "Well I'm sure it was just a lucky punch, I'm like the worst champion ever right?" Then he ended the press conference and walked off.

On the undercard

BW - Al Delmont (15-7-1) MD10 Watty Austin (10-10-2)
HW - Jem Mace (15-8-2) KO8 Fred Russell (8-5) (Russell stepped up to HW for the loss)
WW - Jack Willis (8-5-1) DRAW10 Al Neill (5-8-2)
FW - Billy Whistler (7-13-4) UD8 Abe Willis (7-1) (Willis at pp for this club fight)
MW - Edward Rollins (15-18) UD10 Dick Sandall (6-21-1)

mh2365 · 06-05-2005, 11:17 AM

Anther month down only one title changed hands with Aurelio Herrera reclaiming his title.

Fighter Movement

HW - Sid Russell (8-4) to main, Jim Fell (8-1) to main
MW - Walter Coffey (8-0) to main, Al Greenfield (14-19-3) to club
LW - Young Erne (8-2), Walter Edgerton (8-1) and Arthur Douglas (8-0) all to main
FW - Benny Soloman (8-1-2) and Jack Roberts (5-8) to main

Debut Rankings

LH - John Flood (6-8-1) A6, C9 (weak division)
MW - Jack Williams (12-2-1) A3, C8
WW - Jimmy Clabby (7-4-4) A9, C12
WW - Al Neill (5-8-2) A15, C13
LW - Charley White (8-5-2) A19, C16
LW - Freddie Welsh (12-2-1) A3, C7
FW - Eddie Lenny (7-5-3) A16, C17
FW - Oscar Gardner (10-4-1) A10, C13

Months fights and current rankings attached

mh2365 · 06-05-2005, 11:18 AM

Lw - Bw

javier_83 · 06-05-2005, 12:12 PM

Again we are the champion

Congratulations Aurelio

mh2365 · 06-06-2005, 11:24 AM

September 8, 1908

Bob McAllister (4-0) moved closer to advancing to the club ranks with a UD6 over TC Gcinile Dlamine. The third time in 4 fights that he had to go the distance with a TC though.

Bob also suffered his first cut in this fight so he will be taking October off. He'll have two shots at getting his 5th fight and moving up before the end of the year.

So far he has 5-0 ratio in Knockdowns and 6-1 in cuts. He is landing 32.7% of his punches while his opponent is landing 35.4%. The difference is that McAllister is averaging 103 punches a round compared to 35 for his opponents.

CONN CHRIS · 06-06-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

The difference is that McAllister is averaging 103 punches a round compared to 35 for his opponents.

Once he gets off the orphans and nuns tour, that should change a bit.

mh2365 · 06-06-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Once he gets off the orphans and nuns tour, that should change a bit.

Actually laughed out loud on that one.

mh2365 · 06-06-2005, 05:05 PM

The beginners are done for September. The numbers are dwindling and several fighters made the jump to club this month. They went 45-7-5 against the TC's this month.

Moving up

HW - Mike Conley (5-2), Billy Keough (5-0), Jack Reed (2-5-1)(Reed was a SD away from going to prime and becoming a permanent member of the club ranks), John Scholes (5-0-1)

LH - Georges Carpentier (5-0), Howard Morrow (5-1), Henri Placke (4-3-1)

WW - Tom McAlpine (5-0)

LW - Billy Willis (5-0)

BW - Jack "Kid" Madden (5-0)

Romdawg88 · 06-06-2005, 10:12 PM

Great universe you have going here. First time I saw it didn't seem like it would really interested me as I'm more a fan of modern fighters but I must say after I finally broke down and read it it hooked me.

Though I have a question whatever did happen to Steve Taylor he had that nice little run in the beginning but seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

mh2365 · 06-07-2005, 05:03 AM

Thanks Rom,

The main reason I started this universe was 1) I figured it would help me learn more about historical fighters and 2) I figured I'd quit and go to modern fighters after a few weeks. Fortunately it's been over a year now and I'm still going strong on it.

Steve Taylor came crashing back to earth after defeating Gus Ruhlin in early 1903 to run his record to 8-3. He lost his next 4 fights and 11 out of his next 12. Including bad losses to the likes of Dick Egan, Joe Grim and Bill Squires.

In January of 1907 he dropped to the club ranks with a record of 9-14. Since that point he has gone 2-3 but only has 12.5 retirement points left. It would seem his time is short. He'll always have the Choynski win though.

05-31-2005, 07:56 PM	#663
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	August 1908 title fights Four pretty good matches this month HW - (LBF) Peter Jackson (27-5) vs #3 James Corbett (25-7-2) (Jackson won a UD10 in 1901) MW - (LBC) Charles McCoy (20-7-3) vs #2 Rube Ferns (22-10) (Ferns tries to win the title at MW after going 0-4 in WW title bouts) WW - (LBA) Honey Mellody (14-12) vs #5 Tommy West (12-2-1) FW - (LBC) Young Corbett (15-12-4) vs #1 Aurelio Herrera (12-6) (rematch of April's controversial stoppage, 3rd match between the two with each winning one)

05-31-2005, 08:21 PM	#664
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,091	CMON AURELIO you should win this time who is going to be the referi Last edited by javier_83; 05-31-2005 at 08:23 PM.

06-02-2005, 05:51 AM	#665
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Jackson rallys to defend title August 2, 1908 Peter Jackson (28-5) scored a TKO14 over #3 James Corbett (25-8-2) to wind his 2nd LBF title defense. Jackson needed a KO or TKO to win this fight as Corbett pretty much put the fight out of reach in the 12th. Corbett came out in his usual boring style and boxed his way to a 4 round to 0 lead early in the fight. Jackson then took command of the fight, landing several power punched over the next few rounds, drawing Corbett into a brawl. Jackson dropped Corbett in the 6th and then Corbett's eye started swelling in the 8th. Corbett won the 5th through the 9th and appeared to be cruising. Corbett then regained control in the 10th and 11th to even things up. In the 12th Corbett dropped Jackson twice and had Jackson in trouble on the ropes when the bell sounded. Corbett then won the 13th as Jackson tried to shake out the cobwebs. Jackson stunned Corbett early in the 14th and then pounded a near defenseless Corbett for 2 minutes until the ref finally stopped in. There was no protest from the Corbett corner, although there might be once Corbett regains his senses I had it 120-124 Corbett at the time of the stoppage. Ringside expert, Harry Otty, had it 121-125. The official judges had it 120-124 x2, 121-123. On the undercard HW - Larry Foley (20-7-2) UD10 Frank Mantell (8-2) LHW - Jack Root (29-7-1) UD10 Mike McCoole (10-12-2) MW - Mike Donovan (21-14-3) MTD9 Al Greenfield (14-19-3) (Greenfield drops to club) FW - Martin Flaherty (7-7-3) UD10 Eddie Lenny (7-5-3) HW - Herbert Slade (13-15-2) UD10 Henry Higgans (10-18) (club fight)

06-02-2005, 12:04 PM	#666
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	McCoy keeps title in close fight August 10, 1908 Charles McCoy (21-7-3) pulled out a close UD15 over #2 Rube Ferns (22-11) for his 4th defense of the LBC MW title. McCoy dropped Ferns in the first and it looked to be a quick contest until Ferns landed a big right hand to drop McCoy in the second. Ferns pounded away and even started McCoy's right eye swelling, but he couldn't finish it. The fight was pretty even over the next 8 rounds but going into the 11th it looked as though Ferns had the advantage as McCoy was exhausted. But Ferns just didn't do enough to take the fight and McCoy edge out the victory. I had it 143-142. Ringside expert, Aurelio Barrios, had it 143-141. The official judges gave some close rounds to McCoy and had it 144-140 x 2 and 145-139. On the undercard FW - Cal McCarthy (9-1) UD10 Clarence Forbes (11-10) HW - Jack Burns (13-4) KO7 Jimmy Elliot (22-5-3) (nice upset for Burns) LH - Al Weinig (8-10) UD10 Charles Goff (11-7-2) (Goff stepping up to LH for this fight) MW - Walter Coffey (8-0) UD8 Billy Kramer (5-2) (Coffey moves up to main after this club fight, both fighters at pp) FW - Harry Decker (6-3) MD8 Dick Mills (6-1) (both fighters at pp for this club fight)

06-03-2005, 12:00 PM	#670
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Herrera leaves no doubt this time August 18, 1908 Aurelio Herrera (13-6) won back the LBC Featherweight crown with a KO8 over Young Corbett (15-13-4) in a rematch of their controversial April bout. Corbett who was hurt by Herrera's power in the first 3 rounds of the April fight tried to stay on the outside this time. He won the first round. Then Herrera pounded him in the second. The 3rd round was close and then Herrera took over the fight. Corbett when down in the 4th and Herrera clobbered him once he got up. Both of Corbett's eyes were swelling by the end of the round. The next two rounds were close but Corbett's eyes continued to swell and he was cut under his left eye. Herrera almost had Corbett out on the ropes in the 7th as Young was saved by the bell. Then Herrera dropped him for good to start the 8th. On the undercard (good one) HW - Joe Choynski (25-9-1) UD10 Dick Matthews (8-2) MW - Billy Papke (13-0) TKO9 Kid Broad (8-1) (battle of unbeatens, Papke looking real good) WW - Kyle Whitney (12-2-2) SD10 Terry Martin (11-1) (both fighters down, I thought Martin did enough to win) LW - Arthur Douglas (8-0) UD8 Harry Stone (6-2) (both fighters at pp for this club fight, Douglas moves to main) MW - Denny Kelliher (14-16-3) KO9 Tommy Chandler (12-20-2)

06-02-2005, 12:05 PM	#667
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	As a side note I am going to re-write all the rules for my universe and post them again in case anyone is interested. It'll take me a couple of days to organize all my 4x6 cards into something more clear.

06-02-2005, 12:45 PM	#668
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,091	its ok maybe i can take some ideas

06-05-2005, 10:39 AM	#671
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Mellody defends his title August 30, 1908 Honey Mellody (15-12) made his first defense of the LBA Welterweight title with basically just one punch. He scored a KO6 over #5 Tommy West (12-3-1). West won the first five rounds by a fairly large margin, but was dropped with one big left hook early in the 6th and couldn't beat the count. Mellody not known for his power said after the fight "Well I'm sure it was just a lucky punch, I'm like the worst champion ever right?" Then he ended the press conference and walked off. On the undercard BW - Al Delmont (15-7-1) MD10 Watty Austin (10-10-2) HW - Jem Mace (15-8-2) KO8 Fred Russell (8-5) (Russell stepped up to HW for the loss) WW - Jack Willis (8-5-1) DRAW10 Al Neill (5-8-2) FW - Billy Whistler (7-13-4) UD8 Abe Willis (7-1) (Willis at pp for this club fight) MW - Edward Rollins (15-18) UD10 Dick Sandall (6-21-1)

06-05-2005, 11:17 AM	#672
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of August 1908 Anther month down only one title changed hands with Aurelio Herrera reclaiming his title. Fighter Movement HW - Sid Russell (8-4) to main, Jim Fell (8-1) to main MW - Walter Coffey (8-0) to main, Al Greenfield (14-19-3) to club LW - Young Erne (8-2), Walter Edgerton (8-1) and Arthur Douglas (8-0) all to main FW - Benny Soloman (8-1-2) and Jack Roberts (5-8) to main Debut Rankings LH - John Flood (6-8-1) A6, C9 (weak division) MW - Jack Williams (12-2-1) A3, C8 WW - Jimmy Clabby (7-4-4) A9, C12 WW - Al Neill (5-8-2) A15, C13 LW - Charley White (8-5-2) A19, C16 LW - Freddie Welsh (12-2-1) A3, C7 FW - Eddie Lenny (7-5-3) A16, C17 FW - Oscar Gardner (10-4-1) A10, C13 Months fights and current rankings attached Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:13 PM.

06-05-2005, 11:18 AM	#673
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	rest of the rankings Lw - Bw Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:13 PM.

06-05-2005, 12:12 PM	#674
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,091	Again we are the champion Congratulations Aurelio

06-06-2005, 11:24 AM	#675
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	McAllister steps closer to advancement September 8, 1908 Bob McAllister (4-0) moved closer to advancing to the club ranks with a UD6 over TC Gcinile Dlamine. The third time in 4 fights that he had to go the distance with a TC though. Bob also suffered his first cut in this fight so he will be taking October off. He'll have two shots at getting his 5th fight and moving up before the end of the year. So far he has 5-0 ratio in Knockdowns and 6-1 in cuts. He is landing 32.7% of his punches while his opponent is landing 35.4%. The difference is that McAllister is averaging 103 punches a round compared to 35 for his opponents.

06-06-2005, 05:05 PM	#678
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	September 1908 beginners The beginners are done for September. The numbers are dwindling and several fighters made the jump to club this month. They went 45-7-5 against the TC's this month. Moving up HW - Mike Conley (5-2), Billy Keough (5-0), Jack Reed (2-5-1)(Reed was a SD away from going to prime and becoming a permanent member of the club ranks), John Scholes (5-0-1) LH - Georges Carpentier (5-0), Howard Morrow (5-1), Henri Placke (4-3-1) WW - Tom McAlpine (5-0) LW - Billy Willis (5-0) BW - Jack "Kid" Madden (5-0)

06-06-2005, 10:12 PM	#679
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	Great universe you have going here. First time I saw it didn't seem like it would really interested me as I'm more a fan of modern fighters but I must say after I finally broke down and read it it hooked me. Though I have a question whatever did happen to Steve Taylor he had that nice little run in the beginning but seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

06-07-2005, 05:03 AM	#680
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Thanks Rom, The main reason I started this universe was 1) I figured it would help me learn more about historical fighters and 2) I figured I'd quit and go to modern fighters after a few weeks. Fortunately it's been over a year now and I'm still going strong on it. Steve Taylor came crashing back to earth after defeating Gus Ruhlin in early 1903 to run his record to 8-3. He lost his next 4 fights and 11 out of his next 12. Including bad losses to the likes of Dick Egan, Joe Grim and Bill Squires. In January of 1907 he dropped to the club ranks with a record of 9-14. Since that point he has gone 2-3 but only has 12.5 retirement points left. It would seem his time is short. He'll always have the Choynski win though.