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Déjà Bru · 10-05-2021, 09:05 PM

Well, here we go. See you in two or three hours, no matter how it turns out.

Déjà Bru · 10-06-2021, 12:25 AM

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Well, here we go. See you in two or three hours, no matter how it turns out.

And so it goes. Hats off to the Red Sox. They certainly rose to the occasion.

I'm not really that disappointed because I *know* the Yankees are not as good as the Rays and Astros. If by some miracle they got by them, I would not have been looking forward to a World Series against the Giants or Dodgers.

Considering how bad the Yankees looked at times this season, both before and after the trade deadline, it's remarkable that they made it this far. Although they contributed here and there, Rizzo and Gallo were not the answers.

See post #650 for my opinions on how to improve team batting. I glossed over the pitching, but I will say it now: They need a couple of additional good starters and they ought to be looking for or grooming another closer to replace an aging Chapman.

Well, here's to next season.

Déjà Bru · 10-06-2021, 03:47 AM

I was playing OOTPB during the real game, and beyond, and I am gratified that "my" Yankees have fared much better than "their" Yankees did.

I am usually good with keeping the two forms of entertainment separate in my mind but in this case, I had a split-second of euphoria to see that Gallo is retiring!

Then I realized it wasn't the real Joey Gallo, but my game's Chris Gallo.

knightdreamer2k · 10-06-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I was playing OOTPB during the real game, and beyond, and I am gratified that "my" Yankees have fared much better than "their" Yankees did.

I am usually good with keeping the two forms of entertainment separate in my mind but in this case, I had a split-second of euphoria to see that Gallo is retiring!

Then I realized it wasn't the real Joey Gallo, but my game's Chris Gallo.

I like OOTPB during baseball season because it can help or sometimes make it worse overcoming tough loses.

This Yankee team was an odd team, with holes all over the place you did not expect. After the 2019 season I thought the Yankees just needed another piece or two to be a championship contender and now I don't even know where to begin or end.

On the one hand this team was disappointing with players not leaving up to prior success. On the other considering how inconsistent they were and the poor performance just making the playoffs was an achievement.

Problem 1: The yankees seldom hit as a team. It is usually a couple players at a time carrying the team. Judge and Stanton are the reason we made it to the playoff.s This lineup needs more guys that can hit close to .300.

Problem 2: Consistent starters. Monty is who he is, but is Cole still the same player now that he can't use the sticky stuff? Nester and Taillon are good back end rotation players, need a solid number 2 or may just a true ace since Cole is now questionable in that role.

Strength: Bullpen, if you have Sevy and German, Losiaga, Holmes, perhaps Gil, king then you have a very good bullpen.

Are most pressing needs are: some contact hitters, a solid starter

GeoWar · 10-06-2021, 07:22 PM

Yankees (real life ) need a change in the Front Office and on Field .... Cashman should be let go -------- Boone and staff need to be let go .

C- Every year I think Sanchez will turn a light on (has talent) but does not .. Arbitration this year --- but maybe best to move on

1B - Rizzo , I like for a three or four year contract .... His health and glove at 1B is needed .... can he hit 280 with 20 to 25 homeruns ... Voit (???) can he get healthy and improve defense , he is Arbitration so should be a hard look -- does he have a role on team if glove, health, and average do not improve ? ........ Or do you just go with LeMahieu ? I would look at Rizzo and LeMahieu ...

2B - Torres

SS - Free Agent or look at minors ---- Subs would be Wade and Valazquez ...

3B - Urshela ---- but he is soild at all infield positions .... might look at their minors - trade - free agent ....... and he can move to SS

LF - Gallo has glove and power but if he can not make better contact ... He is Arbitration so move on ... several young Outfielders in minors also several in trades and free agent.

CF - Hicks was a terrible contract -- health reasons and just ????? ... move on several young players - trade - free agent .....

RF - Judge arbitration last year -- try to sign to a 5 year contract

DH - Stanton ( current contract signed as Marlin ) , Andujar , ** need a lefty bat ???? Odor ** same as Gallo improve contact or pay him or trade him.

Starting pitchers --- Cole -- Severino -- Montgomery -- Taillon -- ( King, Cortez, Loaisiga, Garcia or Schmidt *** but make a decision between start or relief early )

Relief -- Green -- Peralta -- Holmes - German - Abreu -- from starters and add a lefty or two

Closer -- Chapman ( for at least one more year ) - Nelson ( from minors strong arm ) or groom Loaisiga .......

**** I would go after Story , Segar, or Turner for SS on FA market .....

OH - I would sign Brett Gardner as Manager (hiring an experienced Bench Coach ) -- He maybe needed to play as a backup in the Outfield
And bring back C.C. as a bullpen or assist pitching coach .....

Just thoughts -

Déjà Bru · 10-06-2021, 07:35 PM

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OH - I would sign Brett Gardner as Manager (hiring an experienced Bench Coach ) -- He maybe needed to play as a backup in the Outfield
And bring back C.C. as a bullpen or assist pitching coach .....

This is intriguing. No doubt those two guys were mentors to younger players. I would like to see them start as coaches, though. Gardner directly to manager may be courting Mets-like trouble.

knightdreamer2k · 10-07-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoWar

Yankees (real life ) need a change in the Front Office and on Field .... Cashman should be let go -------- Boone and staff need to be let go .

C- Every year I think Sanchez will turn a light on (has talent) but does not .. Arbitration this year --- but maybe best to move on

1B - Rizzo , I like for a three or four year contract .... His health and glove at 1B is needed .... can he hit 280 with 20 to 25 homeruns ... Voit (???) can he get healthy and improve defense , he is Arbitration so should be a hard look -- does he have a role on team if glove, health, and average do not improve ? ........ Or do you just go with LeMahieu ? I would look at Rizzo and LeMahieu ...

2B - Torres

SS - Free Agent or look at minors ---- Subs would be Wade and Valazquez ...

3B - Urshela ---- but he is soild at all infield positions .... might look at their minors - trade - free agent ....... and he can move to SS

LF - Gallo has glove and power but if he can not make better contact ... He is Arbitration so move on ... several young Outfielders in minors also several in trades and free agent.

CF - Hicks was a terrible contract -- health reasons and just ????? ... move on several young players - trade - free agent .....

RF - Judge arbitration last year -- try to sign to a 5 year contract

DH - Stanton ( current contract signed as Marlin ) , Andujar , ** need a lefty bat ???? Odor ** same as Gallo improve contact or pay him or trade him.

Starting pitchers --- Cole -- Severino -- Montgomery -- Taillon -- ( King, Cortez, Loaisiga, Garcia or Schmidt *** but make a decision between start or relief early )

Relief -- Green -- Peralta -- Holmes - German - Abreu -- from starters and add a lefty or two

Closer -- Chapman ( for at least one more year ) - Nelson ( from minors strong arm ) or groom Loaisiga .......

**** I would go after Story , Segar, or Turner for SS on FA market .....

OH - I would sign Brett Gardner as Manager (hiring an experienced Bench Coach ) -- He maybe needed to play as a backup in the Outfield
And bring back C.C. as a bullpen or assist pitching coach .....

Just thoughts -

I like our bullpen probably anyway you spin it. I don't want story because he would be another high strike out guy. The Yankees need to stop with doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. We need a couple of high avg guys that put the ball into play and get on base for our mashers to bring home. I am not so sure about Rizzo either as he might just be a 250 hitter with some power.

As the youngsters say we were sold a bill of goods with Cole since the ticky tack he is not the same pitcher. So we are probably going to need a true ace.

I think prioty should be high contact and high avg players, a solid ace or 2 starter, Unfortunately not a lot of catchers so we might be stuck with Gary.

Déjà Bru · 03-14-2022, 11:10 AM

Alright, I will revive this musty old thread because I still do follow Yankee affairs, albeit from afar.

And they finally pulled the trigger on Sanchez, firing him over to the Twins in a trade. Look, he's probably a fine fellow and I wish him well, but he was a bust as a Yankee with the bat and the glove. When certain pitchers prefer the backup catcher, that's a sign that his catcher acumen was not up to snuff, either.

I really don't care who the Yankees got in return, for this is one trade in which the goodness comes from clearing house. They got an aging Josh Donaldson, for whom the newspaper was kind in saying he "has slowed down some defensively over the last few years, but he had a solid season offensively in 2021, batting .247 with a .352 on-base percentage and 26 home runs." Don't expect much in 2022 from him.

It's Gio Urshela leaving in the same trade that gives me pause, but if you match him up with the other fellow that the Yankees are getting, defensive wiz Isiah Kiner-Falefa, it doesn't seem so bad.

Leo_The_Lip · 03-14-2022, 12:05 PM

Yes, Sanchez had to go. It helps all concerned except the Twins. If I'm a Twins fan: WHY??? If I'm Sonny Gray, I feel betrayed instantly.

The youngish C is a lefty hitter, so good there from a platoon perspective. Donaldson is over-the-hill, but his hill was high, so perhaps OK for next season. K-F seems to be a much better hitter than Urshela and likely much better defensively at SS.

Will this be enough to get Olson from the A's, or sign Freeman?

AirmenSmith · 03-14-2022, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo_The_Lip

Yes, Sanchez had to go. It helps all concerned except the Twins. If I'm a Twins fan: WHY??? If I'm Sonny Gray, I feel betrayed instantly.

The youngish C is a lefty hitter, so good there from a platoon perspective. Donaldson is over-the-hill, but his hill was high, so perhaps OK for next season. K-F seems to be a much better hitter than Urshela and likely much better defensively at SS.

Will this be enough to get Olson from the A's, or sign Freeman?

And there goes Olson....

Looking more like Rizzo may come back.

My take on the trade is positive but more so because they finally let Sanchez leave. I'm sorry but catcher defense, and pitch framing, is so much more valuable then a slugging catcher missing those qualities. I think Sanchez may have great value now that there is universal DH. Put him on a team where he can be a backup catcher and DH and I think he will actually do well.

So for the trade itself i'm curious what it would have taken to just get IKF. Did the Yanks have to take on the Donaldson contract to get him? I do value players that can play multiple positions like DJ. Just wish the Yanks didn't need to take on the money since they are a little more "Cheap" compared to that of the Bosses years.

I do think they should try to trade Voit and maybe the catcher they just got for a catcher that is a little more balance. I love Higgy on the team but as a starting catcher not so much.

knightdreamer2k · 03-15-2022, 12:54 AM

The trade was okay. Donaldson is old and I would be surprised if he stays healthy in this campaign. Kiner-Falefa was the get in the trade though so we will say. I will miss Gio. I don't feel excited about the prospect of Rizzo coming back. I hope the Yankees have more... much more in them to improve this team. We also need a pitcher.

Déjà Bru · 03-15-2022, 10:11 AM

By the way, this is the catcher that the Yankees also received, Ben Rortvedt, on the left. "Jacked" is an understatement. Seriously, I wonder how the man can swing a bat in this condition.

knightdreamer2k · 03-16-2022, 12:18 AM

So, we got Rizzo. Not that excited over this, but I guess I understand. A .250 hitter doesn't excite me. We need more high average guys, that can put the ball in play and place pressure on opposing pitchers. The offense we had last year was just pretty trash for a top-flight team. To one- dimensional and relying on the homerun to score.

Déjà Bru · 03-16-2022, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knightdreamer2k

So, we got Rizzo. Not that excited over this, but I guess I understand. A .250 hitter doesn't excite me. We need more high average guys, that can put the ball in play and place pressure on opposing pitchers. The offense we had last year was just pretty trash for a top-flight team. To one- dimensional and relying on the homerun to score.

These days, I will take a .250 hitter, but at Rizzo's price, not Donaldson's. He'll do until somebody better comes along (and that's not Voit). Remember the huckleberries that the Yankees have had at 1B in recent years? You'll feel better about Rizzo if you do.

knightdreamer2k · 03-16-2022, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

These days, I will take a .250 hitter, but at Rizzo's price, not Donaldson's. He'll do until somebody better comes along (and that's not Voit). Remember the huckleberries that the Yankees have had at 1B in recent years? You'll feel better about Rizzo if you do.

My issue is more so the overall lineup currently has not been upgraded. I fear plenty of low scoring nights. The one boost is they should be less strikeout prone, but still not able to move runners over. I hope there is more to come.

Déjà Bru · 03-16-2022, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by knightdreamer2k

My issue is more so the overall lineup currently has not been upgraded. I fear plenty of low scoring nights. The one boost is they should be less strikeout prone, but still not able to move runners over. I hope there is more to come.

Also, two guys that they already have who need to bounce back this season: DJ LeMahieu and Gleyber Torres.

knightdreamer2k · 03-17-2022, 10:09 PM

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Also, two guys that they already have who need to bounce back this season: DJ LeMahieu and Gleyber Torres.

You sir, are 100% correct. DJ and Gleyber having a solid season could be a huge plus. I would like to add another starter even more.

GeoWar · 03-18-2022, 08:57 PM

Look for someone to take Joey Gallo (a career 205 batting average hitter) with a good glove and power ....

They need left handed bats but they need to hit more than 205 .

The young middle infielders and CF look good ......

Déjà Bru · 03-19-2022, 09:41 AM

With a report of the trading of Luke Voit to the Padres for a pitching prospect came this statement: "With the designated hitter becoming a part of the National League this season, a bevy of teams are in need of a bat." It would be interesting to see a compilation of the trades during this preseason to see how many older, defensive-challenged batters will have moved to the NL because of the DH with pitchers coming the other way.

knightdreamer2k · 03-19-2022, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoWar

Look for someone to take Joey Gallo (a career 205 batting average hitter) with a good glove and power ....

They need left handed bats but they need to hit more than 205 .

The young middle infielders and CF look good ......

Gallo was even worse for the Yankees. It would be great if someone wanted him and Yankees could get a decent return. I doubt it though.

I thought the Voit trade was a little lower than expected. Not saying we need it but couldn't an extra minor leaguer or Major league ready player have been thrown in as part of the deal? if voit stays healthy he could be a regular 30/40 HR player.

I hope more is in store before opening day, because competitive wise I feel we are lacking.

10-05-2021, 09:05 PM	#661
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,664	Well, here we go. See you in two or three hours, no matter how it turns out. __________________ - Bru

10-06-2021, 03:47 AM	#663
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,664	I was playing OOTPB during the real game, and beyond, and I am gratified that "my" Yankees have fared much better than "their" Yankees did. I am usually good with keeping the two forms of entertainment separate in my mind but in this case, I had a split-second of euphoria to see that Gallo is retiring! Then I realized it wasn't the real Joey Gallo, but my game's Chris Gallo. Attached Images __________________ - Bru

10-06-2021, 07:22 PM	#665
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	Yankees (real life ) need a change in the Front Office and on Field .... Cashman should be let go -------- Boone and staff need to be let go . C- Every year I think Sanchez will turn a light on (has talent) but does not .. Arbitration this year --- but maybe best to move on 1B - Rizzo , I like for a three or four year contract .... His health and glove at 1B is needed .... can he hit 280 with 20 to 25 homeruns ... Voit (???) can he get healthy and improve defense , he is Arbitration so should be a hard look -- does he have a role on team if glove, health, and average do not improve ? ........ Or do you just go with LeMahieu ? I would look at Rizzo and LeMahieu ... 2B - Torres SS - Free Agent or look at minors ---- Subs would be Wade and Valazquez ... 3B - Urshela ---- but he is soild at all infield positions .... might look at their minors - trade - free agent ....... and he can move to SS LF - Gallo has glove and power but if he can not make better contact ... He is Arbitration so move on ... several young Outfielders in minors also several in trades and free agent. CF - Hicks was a terrible contract -- health reasons and just ????? ... move on several young players - trade - free agent ..... RF - Judge arbitration last year -- try to sign to a 5 year contract DH - Stanton ( current contract signed as Marlin ) , Andujar , need a lefty bat ???? Odor same as Gallo improve contact or pay him or trade him. Starting pitchers --- Cole -- Severino -- Montgomery -- Taillon -- ( King, Cortez, Loaisiga, Garcia or Schmidt * but make a decision between start or relief early ) Relief -- Green -- Peralta -- Holmes - German - Abreu -- from starters and add a lefty or two Closer -- Chapman ( for at least one more year ) - Nelson ( from minors strong arm ) or groom Loaisiga ....... ** I would go after Story , Segar, or Turner for SS on FA market ..... OH - I would sign Brett Gardner as Manager (hiring an experienced Bench Coach ) -- He maybe needed to play as a backup in the Outfield And bring back C.C. as a bullpen or assist pitching coach ..... Just thoughts - __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

03-14-2022, 11:10 AM	#668
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,664	Alright, I will revive this musty old thread because I still do follow Yankee affairs, albeit from afar. And they finally pulled the trigger on Sanchez, firing him over to the Twins in a trade. Look, he's probably a fine fellow and I wish him well, but he was a bust as a Yankee with the bat and the glove. When certain pitchers prefer the backup catcher, that's a sign that his catcher acumen was not up to snuff, either. I really don't care who the Yankees got in return, for this is one trade in which the goodness comes from clearing house. They got an aging Josh Donaldson, for whom the newspaper was kind in saying he "has slowed down some defensively over the last few years, but he had a solid season offensively in 2021, batting .247 with a .352 on-base percentage and 26 home runs." Don't expect much in 2022 from him. It's Gio Urshela leaving in the same trade that gives me pause, but if you match him up with the other fellow that the Yankees are getting, defensive wiz Isiah Kiner-Falefa, it doesn't seem so bad. __________________ - Bru

03-14-2022, 12:05 PM	#669
Leo_The_Lip All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,797	Yes, Sanchez had to go. It helps all concerned except the Twins. If I'm a Twins fan: WHY??? If I'm Sonny Gray, I feel betrayed instantly. The youngish C is a lefty hitter, so good there from a platoon perspective. Donaldson is over-the-hill, but his hill was high, so perhaps OK for next season. K-F seems to be a much better hitter than Urshela and likely much better defensively at SS. Will this be enough to get Olson from the A's, or sign Freeman? __________________ "My name will live forever" - Anonymous

03-15-2022, 12:54 AM	#671
knightdreamer2k Major Leagues Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 452	The trade was okay. Donaldson is old and I would be surprised if he stays healthy in this campaign. Kiner-Falefa was the get in the trade though so we will say. I will miss Gio. I don't feel excited about the prospect of Rizzo coming back. I hope the Yankees have more... much more in them to improve this team. We also need a pitcher.

03-15-2022, 10:11 AM	#672
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,664	By the way, this is the catcher that the Yankees also received, Ben Rortvedt, on the left. "Jacked" is an understatement. Seriously, I wonder how the man can swing a bat in this condition. Attached Images __________________ - Bru

03-16-2022, 12:18 AM	#673
knightdreamer2k Major Leagues Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 452	So, we got Rizzo. Not that excited over this, but I guess I understand. A .250 hitter doesn't excite me. We need more high average guys, that can put the ball in play and place pressure on opposing pitchers. The offense we had last year was just pretty trash for a top-flight team. To one- dimensional and relying on the homerun to score.

03-18-2022, 08:57 PM	#678
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	Look for someone to take Joey Gallo (a career 205 batting average hitter) with a good glove and power .... They need left handed bats but they need to hit more than 205 . The young middle infielders and CF look good ...... __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

03-19-2022, 09:41 AM	#679
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,664	With a report of the trading of Luke Voit to the Padres for a pitching prospect came this statement: "With the designated hitter becoming a part of the National League this season, a bevy of teams are in need of a bat." It would be interesting to see a compilation of the trades during this preseason to see how many older, defensive-challenged batters will have moved to the NL because of the DH with pitchers coming the other way. __________________ - Bru