Utba

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by Tommysixfingers

I'm really thrilled to have Vicky Pollard as my ring girl. She could probably handle the lesser heavyweights herself and most likely scare the rest with her appearance alone

I think she deserves a codpiece, if she does not already own one.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

Your 2008 UTBA II Bald Beavers....
Don't really know what to expect with these two, but thought it might be fun to have two guys in the same division whose names will give Scot fits.

And, of course, how could anyone ever top Somsak Sithchatchawal?

Yeah.........I'm not sure who is going to get the first wtitten warning for making my mind numb trying to type these names week in and week out.
Lee and Mike manage to land a couple of tuff spellers also.

[SAL]

Just posted the standings. If you don't like your team flag, please offer an alternate or give me some idea of what you want and I'll try to make it.

You can use the Standings link in my sig. to head straight for the standings post or you can find it on the second post of this thread......page 1.

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by SAL

Yeah.........I'm not sure who is going to get the first wtitten warning for making my mind numb trying to type these names week in and week out.
Lee and Mike manage to land a couple of tuff spellers also.

Scot,

To avoid typing the names out of each fighter each week, you could always cut and paste them from the roster lists into Notepad and arrange the results there. That's what I do with my HBF/IBL results and weekly schedules.

[Tommysixfingers]

One of the most interesting divisions for me this season is the featherweights. Last time around I had a pretty solid pair in Sugar Ramos and Davey Kotey who both provide some much needed points. This season I opted to go for Kotey and Barry McGuigan instead of Ramos. Ramos is a 9 rated fighter and I had already filled that slot with Yuri Arbachakov at Fly.

Hugh (Lethal Liberal) is obviously a man that can spot quality as he picked the exact same fighters (Kotey and McGuigan) as I did. Hugh, being the gentleman that he is, agreed to split the two fighters among us. McGuigan ended up in Stockholm and Davey Kotey found a place in the Left Jab’s FW division.

That left the both of us looking for a second fighter at FW and I sent a request for hard hitter Antonio Esparragoza. Only problem was that Hugh already had claimed him as his replacement pick. With Esparragoza out of the picture I opted for antoher 8 rated FW, Alejandro Gonzalez. Gonzalez packs a punch as well but not quite as much as Esparragoza.

I’m happy with my FW’s and I expect a lot from them but I think that Hugh might have picked up a real gem in Esparragoza. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he knocks out a lot of higher ranked fighters. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Esparragoza turned out to be the best FW of them all after this season.

[Bronx Bomber 15]

Originally Posted by SAL

Just posted the standings. If you don't like your team flag, please offer an alternate or give me some idea of what you want and I'll try to make it.

You can use the Standings link in my sig. to head straight for the standings post or you can find it on the second post of this thread......page 1.

The new Dusk Owls Flag please...

[bear]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

Scot,

To avoid typing the names out of each fighter each week, you could always cut and paste them from the roster lists into Notepad and arrange the results there. That's what I do with my HBF/IBL results and weekly schedules.

Cut and paste when ever possible. Love those control C, contol X, and control V shortcuts.

[shane6969]

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[shane6969]

Originally Posted by bear

Lola Montez is really old school. I tip my tam to this choice. Reminds me of the Flashman novels.

I figured that my team is based in Bendigo, so I had to pick someone with a historical connection to this fine City, so I picked Lola Montez who toured the goldfields and Pubs in Bendigo (including doing shows at the Shamrock Hotel) back in the 1800's.

Cheers,

Shane.............................

[umk]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

Those turkey Nobodies made me sweat - telling me in a private msg. that they submitted Ike on their second roster.

Had me looking at alternatives all evening. You got me!

lol... Actually I worded my PM to SAL wrongly. I had wanted to get both my duplicates again to make them invalid oh well

[lethal liberal]

Originally Posted by Tommysixfingers

One of the most interesting divisions for me this season is the featherweights. Last time around I had a pretty solid pair in Sugar Ramos and Davey Kotey who both provide some much needed points. This season I opted to go for Kotey and Barry McGuigan instead of Ramos. Ramos is a 9 rated fighter and I had already filled that slot with Yuri Arbachakov at Fly.

Hugh (Lethal Liberal) is obviously a man that can spot quality as he picked the exact same fighters (Kotey and McGuigan) as I did. Hugh, being the gentleman that he is, agreed to split the two fighters among us. McGuigan ended up in Stockholm and Davey Kotey found a place in the Left Jab’s FW division.

That left the both of us looking for a second fighter at FW and I sent a request for hard hitter Antonio Esparragoza. Only problem was that Hugh already had claimed him as his replacement pick. With Esparragoza out of the picture I opted for antoher 8 rated FW, Alejandro Gonzalez. Gonzalez packs a punch as well but not quite as much as Esparragoza.

I’m happy with my FW’s and I expect a lot from them but I think that Hugh might have picked up a real gem in Esparragoza. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he knocks out a lot of higher ranked fighters. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Esparragoza turned out to be the best FW of them all after this season.

Thanks for the kind words my friend and I do hope that Esparragoza turns out to be a gem. Funny that we both had McGuigan and Kotey and then picked Antonio as well. I resisted the urge to just load up on all punchers and tried to get a few guys that can maybe take advantage of the new points system for decision wins...guys like Nunn and Davis Jr. It is really tough to decide how to build a roster. Do you go with a bunch of 5,6 rated fighters and have a balanced team? Do you go with one highly ranked fighter in each division and one low?(What I sort of ended up doing) Do you load up on the heavier divisions or lower weight classes? Lot of choices and looking at the rosters thus far it seems that a lot of people chose different ways of picking rosters. I have seen balanced,power punching teams,boxing teams,teams that seem to concentrate on 3-4 weight classes etc. so this should be a very interesting season. I am very anxious to get started. I have a very tough early schedule(based on owners previous performance)so my guys will face the heat early and often. Thanks for the McGuigan/Kotey split..you are a gentleman as well my friend. To everyone..good luck and enjoy the season!

[SAL]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

Scot,

To avoid typing the names out of each fighter each week, you could always cut and paste them from the roster lists into Notepad and arrange the results there. That's what I do with my HBF/IBL results and weekly schedules.

Always..........I'm a professional cut and paster. I have almost all of the UTBA stuff on notepad.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

Just a couple of thoughts concerning the elimination of the 2 Conferences...

• In UTBA-I, all of the stats compilations revolved around having 2 conferences. The weekly Points Scored Leaders had both a Gold Conference and Silver Conference.
• The End-Of-Year Awards such as Rookie of the Year, MVP and Comeback Fighter of the Year had winners for each conference. (Only Manager of the Year had a single award)
• There was a mid-season All-Star Match between the Gold and Silver conferences where the managers voted. The All-Star bouts were exibitions and did not count towards the aging of the fighters.

I don't have a problem with inter-conference matches during the season, but did like the separation between the Gold and the Silver.

Keeping track of leaders in many catagories for each division separately is way too much work, but keeping leaders for only all divisions combined takes away some of the fun of the league.

Hopefully we can re-address the two conference model without letting it affect the already established scheduling.

Also, I am interested in any other types/catagories of weekly stats that anyone is interested in seeing - as well as establishing End of the Year Awards.

Bumping this up.

After some talk with Dave, I wanted to see where the stance of the owners were that voted down the Conferences in order to just have divisions. Dave makes sense in his post above and it does bring some intrigue to the league having conference leaders in several categories. Two conferences also help in the stat keeping department. Just having overall individual leaders in the league during the season would take some fun out of it. Having the individual leaders during the season in 2 conferences sparks debate and trash talk.

Couple of Questions.

Did you guys just want to have the availabilty to face every team in the league at some point and time over the seasons when you voted the conferences down?

Or were you guys dead set against having 2 Conference Championships at the end of the year and letting the 2 Conf. Champs meet to determine the overall UTBA Team Champion?

[Romdawg88]

I voted against conferences simply because I wanted a chance to play some of the other teams that I never got a shot at in the original UTBA. I'm perfectly fine with bringing back the conferences if it'll make things easier for you guys. I just want some kind of gold/silver matchups in the regular season.

[Romdawg88]

Your UTBA II Muckboys

HW
(4)Santo Amonti 0-0-0 *beginner
(6)Nino Valdes 0-0-0 *beginner

LHW
(6)George Manley 0-0-0 *beginner
(7)Battling Siki 0-0-0 *beginner

MW
(6)Tony Sibson 0-0-0 *beginner
(7)Charles Turner 0-0-0 *beginner

WW
(3)David Cervantes 0-0-0 *beginner
(5)Honey Mellody 0-0-0 *beginner

LW
(7)Sergei Artemiev 0-0-0 *beginner
(4)Cesar Orta 0-0-0 *beginner

FW
(10)Vicente Saldivar 0-0-0 *beginner
(8)Chalky Wright 0-0-0 *beginner

BW
(5)Pete Frissina 0-0-0 *beginner
(9)Jose Medel 0-0-0 *beginner

Fly
(5)Hugo Soto 0-0-0 *beginner
(8)Candido Tellez 0-0-0 *beginner

I decided to go on a CF route with this team instead of the heavy banger squads I fielded in the old UTBA. With the new rule changes, big power punchers aren't as valuable I think so I didn't really look at power that much.

At HW, Santo Amonti made the squad mainly due to his great showing in KC's HBF. I think Santo will turn out to be one of the better lower rated guys. I think I blew it with the Nino pick looking at it now. Kind of chinny, bad defense, and a crappy conditioning rating not really what I was looking for. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I picked him truthfully. This will probably be a spot I look to upgrade at the end of the season.

At LHW, We have returning Muckboy Battling Siki who fit want I wanted nicely. I had wanted to add in Siki's LHW partner from the UTBA's last season to the team, Eddie Cotton. However, Matt lay claim to the former Beaver as well so I gave up rights to him for a third round pick. In his place is newcomer George Manley who is a Eddie Cotton clone with a slightly better chin. I'm expecting Cotton level production from Manley.

At MW, I have Tony Sibson who had an excellent run for the Muckboys in the final season of the UTBA. Sibson was able to put together a solid career in the Murders row that was the MW division so I know I have a very solid fighter in him. Charles Turner is one of new fighters I'm most excited about. He's got High CF, endless stamina, very aggressive, and decent pop I expect Turner to turn out to be a Bernard Taylor style 7 who performs above and beyond his rating. These two should provide me with a solid MW division.

At WW, this is my throwaway division. I don't expect much for either of these guys so any wins they can get me are bonuses. A sure area I'm going to look too upgrade later.

At LW, I have the final UTBA LW Champion in Sergei Artemiev and I expect him to perform at the same level he was. I'm hoping and praying that Cesar Orta turns out to be another Jimmy Britt but I'll be happy if he can just beat the other 3s and 4s with an occasional upset of a higher rated fighter every now and then.

My FW class in the last UTBA always sucked hard. Every attempt too improve it usually failed horrible, case in point Danny Lopez's final season. So I decided to make it one of my strongest points this time around. I expect Vicente Saldivar too run over the division like Walker or Vic did in theirs. Chalky Wright is a slightly lower rated Jose Medel and with Vicente should provide me with a number of 4-0 days in the FW class.

My BW and FLY weight classes are the same as with my old team. They were highly successfully so I saw no reason to mess with them. I do want to say thanks to KC for giving up his claim on Frissina for nothing in return.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by umk

lol... Actually I worded my PM to SAL wrongly. I had wanted to get both my duplicates again to make them invalid oh well

You shouldn't lose the guy because your email didn't read right. Heck, I'm well aware that about 2/3's of everything I write is basically nonsense to everyone but me.

So if you want Ike, let me know and I'll pick someone else. The Beaver fans won't be happy, but I'd hate to take advantage of misappropriated syntax.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by SAL

Bumping this up.

After some talk with Dave, I wanted to see where the stance of the owners were that voted down the Conferences in order to just have divisions. Dave makes sense in his post above and it does bring some intrigue to the league having conference leaders in several categories. Two conferences also help in the stat keeping department. Just having overall individual leaders in the league during the season would take some fun out of it. Having the individual leaders during the season in 2 conferences sparks debate and trash talk.

Couple of Questions.

Did you guys just want to have the availabilty to face every team in the league at some point and time over the seasons when you voted the conferences down?

Or were you guys dead set against having 2 Conference Championships at the end of the year and letting the 2 Conf. Champs meet to determine the overall UTBA Team Champion?

I REALLY wanted conferences, because it lends more drama to the championship.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by SAL

Always..........I'm a professional cut and paster. I have almost all of the UTBA stuff on notepad.

Damn. Foiled again.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

You shouldn't lose the guy because your email didn't read right. Heck, I'm well aware that about 2/3's of everything I write is basically nonsense to everyone but me.

I've got a PM in to Kerwin to see what he wants to do. I'm sorry but I guess I misunderstood his intentions. I agree with you Matt, a guy shouldn't miss out because of a misunderstanding in a PM.

If he decides to keep Ike and Fly Donitio........both will be eliminated from the db and both you and Gunsmoke will need to re-pick as well. So if you want, go ahead and send me a replacement pick just in case.

Sorry guys. It's a wonder I didn't screw more up than I did.

[Thunder]

My replacement picks are in!!