Louisville Boxing Association - Page 33

mh2365 · 05-19-2005, 02:29 PM

Also I am unsatisfied with how bad post-prime makes fighters, so I decided to move all of them back to prime and adjust them with the movement in weight chart on cornerwork. When a fighter goes to post-prime I'll adjust them as if they are moving up one weight and then when he goes to end I'll adjust them one more class.

This drops them about 1 rating point with each adjustment so that's a little more fair then the seemingly 6 rating point drop with post-prime.

When I retire a fighter I will adjust them back to normal.

mh2365 · 05-20-2005, 07:36 AM

June 28, 1908

Peter Jackson (18-3) wasted no time in his second bout with #5 Dixie Kid (15-12-5) scoring a KO3 this time instead of the UD15 that happened the last time these two met.

Jackson dropped Kid late in the second round and Kid got up but never recovered. Kid went down again early in the 3rd and then for good a few seconds later.

Jackson won his 16th straight bout after starting out 2-3.

On the undercard

LW - Dave Holly (10-5-6) UD10 Arthur Chambers (9-2)
HW - Nick Burley (13-7) UD10 Morris Grant (11-15-5) (grant fought at post for this fight)
HW - Larry Temple (12-0) KO10 Charles Hadley (15-13-3) (Temple stepped up to HW for this win) **note, obviously I created Temple a little too good as a 6 rated fighter, so I dropped him to a 4 after this fight**
HW - Bill Squires (10-11-1) UD8 Sid Russell (7-4) (Russell fought pre for this club fight, Squires continues to back his claim for the best 1 rated fighter ever)
FW - Billy Barrett (8-10-3) UD10 Chappie Moran (15-18-2) (Moran fought post and stepped up to FW for this club fight)

mh2365 · 05-20-2005, 04:48 PM

Another month down, half-way through another year. This month saw the first unification bout.

Movement

HW - Dick Matthews (8-0) club to main
MW - Jack Nelson (8-1) club to main, Eddie McGoorty (8-1) club to main
WW - Jimmy Clabby (7-3-3) club to main
FW - Ben Jordan (8-1-2) club to main, Jack Downey (8-2) club to main
BW - Charles Goodman (8-1) club to main

Debut Rankings

HW - Charlie Wilson (7-5-3) A55/C50/F53
LH - Billy McCool (7-8) A15/C19
MW - Joe Costa (8-3-4) A20/C15
WW - Tommy West (12-2-1) A5/C3, Kyle Whitney (11-2-2) A4/C5
LW - Eddie Connelly (8-6-1) A27/C19
BW - Ike Weir (7-7-1) A6/C4

attached are the June fights and June EOM top 25 Rankings

mh2365 · 05-20-2005, 04:49 PM

more rankings

Gunsmoke · 05-20-2005, 08:45 PM

Quote:

When a fighter goes to post-prime I'll adjust them as if they are moving up one weight and then when he goes to end I'll adjust them one more class.

I like it, should simulate the slowing down process quite well. You don't even have to only have two slow down phases in their careers but you can age fighters many times if their career lasts way too long like Evander's. Nice

CONN CHRIS · 05-21-2005, 04:09 PM

McAllister and Gibbons must be due for another bout this month or next.

Lee · 05-21-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke

I like it, should simulate the slowing down process quite well. You don't even have to only have two slow down phases in their careers but you can age fighters many times if their career lasts way too long like Evander's. Nice

I agree, great idea. It would be really nice if in TBCB 2 the process was more gradual, an example being once you move a fighter to post prime his ratings decrease gradually over the course of the next year(s), like in OOTP, instead of just one big hit. Don't know what type of programming nightmare that would be, but it would be cool.

And as always Mark, great job with the Universe, like death and taxes you can count on a new LBA post every couple of days

mh2365 · 05-21-2005, 06:04 PM

Thanks Lee, and it's Mike by the way. Hopefully Andreas will incorporate the gradual decrease into the role playing game.

mh2365 · 05-21-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

McAllister and Gibbons must be due for another bout this month or next.

Both fought in June so they had a 40% chance to fight in July, but neither was chosen to fight. McAllister remains at 3-0 and Gibbons at 2-0.

mh2365 · 05-22-2005, 12:31 PM

The beginners are done for July they go 73-12-2 so not too bad of a month.

Moving up to club this month

HW - Frank Herald (5-1), Terry Kellar (4-4), Ned Kelly (4-4)
MW - Billy Manning (5-0)
WW - Jack McGinty (5-0)
LW - Eddie Carroll (5-0), Jack Keenan (5-0), Sammy Smith (5-0)
FW - Johnny Crowe (5-2), Joe Reilly (4-3-1)
BW - Morris Rauch (5-2)

Notice Kellar, Kelly and Reilly really set the world on fire against the tomato cans, they should have a long career.

mh2365 · 05-23-2005, 10:32 AM

Slow month for title bouts with only two scheduled, but a busy month otherwise with 170 main and club division fighters fighting.

HW - (LBC) Dominic McCaffrey (21-7-3) vs #1 Joe Jeannette (15-0)
MW - (LBA) Tommy Ryan (32-0-1) vs #8 Frank Klaus (12-4-1)

** Frank Craig was the highest ranked MW scheduled to fight this month but both of his last fights were against Ryan and despite great showings the officials of the LBA decided he needed to win a fight before getting another shot at Ryan.

Lee · 05-23-2005, 10:47 AM

Laying my Money on Jeannette to take the Title from McCaffrey......A unification bout between he and Jack Johnson would be a hot ticket down the road as well.

mh2365 · 05-23-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Laying my Money on Jeannette to take the Title from McCaffrey......A unification bout between he and Jack Johnson would be a hot ticket down the road as well.

I agree ... I really start to get into the guys that make it this far without losing, it doesn't happen often. I actually get a little nervous when Ryan is fighting.

javier_83 · 05-23-2005, 03:43 PM

Ryan for TKO at 10 or less

mh2365 · 05-23-2005, 05:54 PM

LBA's new rules for post-prime and end stages

The fighters will stay at prime.
For post-prime cf b/s -1, hp -1, kd -1
For end stage, endurance -1, def -1, pl/pm -2

Then I will move them back when they retire

mh2365 · 05-24-2005, 08:18 PM

July 3, 1908

Tommy Ryan (33-0-1) scored a TKO1 over #8 Frank Klaus (12-5-1) for his 4th defense of the LBA Middleweight title.

Ryan dropped Klaus twice and on his way to a third time when the ref stepped in and stopped the fight.

On the undercard

FW - Johnny Kilbane (10-1) UD10 Tommy Sullivan (11-11-3)
HW - Jem Mace (14-8-2) MD10 Dick Matthews (8-1)
LW - Willie Ritchie (7-0-1) DRAW8 Willie Fitzgerald (5-0-2) (both fighters at pre for this club fight)
LW - Paddy Smith (6-1) MD8 Tim Callahan (7-2) (both fighters at pre for this club fight)
HW - John Ferguson (13-17-2) KO8 Jem Stewart (4-20-2) (Ferguson at post and Stewart at end for this club fight)

javier_83 · 05-24-2005, 08:39 PM

WOOW

Brillant the Ryans Fight

mh2365 · 05-25-2005, 02:23 PM

July 22, 1908

Joe Jeannette (16-0) survived a knockdown to score a KO10 over champ Dominic McCaffrey (21-8-3) to win the LBC Heavyweight title.

Jeannette dominated the fight from the opening bell winning 5 of the first 6 rounds.

McCaffrey showed a little life dropping Jeannette in the early part of round 7, but Jeannette covered up effective and survived the round.

Less than a minute into the 10th, Jeannette dropped the champ with a left hook and McCaffrey couldn't beat the count.

I had it 86-84 Jeannette at the time of the stoppage.

On the undercard

WW - George Cole (6-7-3) UD10 William Sullivan (8-3-1)
MW - Frank Craig (23-10-2) UD10 Jack Moffat (10-7)
BW - Frankie Neil (14-17-2) UD8 Jack Foy (5-3-1) (Neil at post, Foy at pre for this club fight. Foy stepped up to BW)
FW - Frank Zimpher (6-1) UD8 Young Byrnes (6-4) (both fighters at pre for this club fight)
MW - Bill Slavin (3-20-2) UD10 Dick O'Brien (3-13-1) (Slavin at end for this club fight ... embarrassing loss for O'Brien)

mh2365 · 05-26-2005, 10:34 AM

Another month down slow month for title fights but lots of other fights and lots of movement.

Fighter Movement

HW - Jim McCormick (8-0) up to main
LH - Charley Stevenson (4-9) down to club
MW - John P. Clow (13-18) down to club
WW - Cy Flynn (8-2), Wildcat Ferns (8-1) both up to main
LW - Austin Gibbons (16-16-2) back up to main
FW - Jimmy Dime (8-0) up to main
BW - Dave Sullivan (8-0-1), Cockney Cohen (7-4-2) both up to main

Debut Rankings

LH - George Byers (9-5-1) A11, C6
LH - Jack Graham (7-8) A27, C18
LH - Harry Baker (4-9-2) A28, C20
LW - Ad Wolgast (9-6) A22, C21
FW - Will Curley (10-5) A13, C14
BW - Harry Tenney (10-3-2) A3, C9

monthly fights attached below, also attaching title lineage for the months title fights.

mh2365 · 05-30-2005, 09:25 AM

The beginners are done for August they went 54-13-5 as their numbers start to dwindle a little. Their record was pretty good considering the HW's went a dismal 9-5-3 against the TC's.

Moving up this month (note the amount of stellar

fighters,not sure how many from this group will make it out of club)

HW - J. Barrington (2-5-1)
LH - Joe Craig (2-5-1), Yank Kenny (3-4-1), Jack Dillon (5-0)
MW - Frank Bosworth (5-0)
WW - Fighting Kennedy (5-2)
LW - Johnny Clark (5-2), Johnny Summers (5-2)
FW - Jack Pearson (3-4-1), Al Wright (4-3-1)
BW - Johnny Ritchie (5-0)
FLY - Joe McGrath (5-0)

** note for Chris, Bob McAllister remained inactive this month stays stuck at 3-0

05-20-2005, 07:36 AM	#642
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Jackson cruises to 7th defense June 28, 1908 Peter Jackson (18-3) wasted no time in his second bout with #5 Dixie Kid (15-12-5) scoring a KO3 this time instead of the UD15 that happened the last time these two met. Jackson dropped Kid late in the second round and Kid got up but never recovered. Kid went down again early in the 3rd and then for good a few seconds later. Jackson won his 16th straight bout after starting out 2-3. On the undercard LW - Dave Holly (10-5-6) UD10 Arthur Chambers (9-2) HW - Nick Burley (13-7) UD10 Morris Grant (11-15-5) (grant fought at post for this fight) HW - Larry Temple (12-0) KO10 Charles Hadley (15-13-3) (Temple stepped up to HW for this win) note, obviously I created Temple a little too good as a 6 rated fighter, so I dropped him to a 4 after this fight HW - Bill Squires (10-11-1) UD8 Sid Russell (7-4) (Russell fought pre for this club fight, Squires continues to back his claim for the best 1 rated fighter ever) FW - Billy Barrett (8-10-3) UD10 Chappie Moran (15-18-2) (Moran fought post and stepped up to FW for this club fight)

05-20-2005, 04:48 PM	#643
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of June 1908 Another month down, half-way through another year. This month saw the first unification bout. Movement HW - Dick Matthews (8-0) club to main MW - Jack Nelson (8-1) club to main, Eddie McGoorty (8-1) club to main WW - Jimmy Clabby (7-3-3) club to main FW - Ben Jordan (8-1-2) club to main, Jack Downey (8-2) club to main BW - Charles Goodman (8-1) club to main Debut Rankings HW - Charlie Wilson (7-5-3) A55/C50/F53 LH - Billy McCool (7-8) A15/C19 MW - Joe Costa (8-3-4) A20/C15 WW - Tommy West (12-2-1) A5/C3, Kyle Whitney (11-2-2) A4/C5 LW - Eddie Connelly (8-6-1) A27/C19 BW - Ike Weir (7-7-1) A6/C4 attached are the June fights and June EOM top 25 Rankings Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

05-20-2005, 04:49 PM	#644
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	more rankings Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

05-21-2005, 04:09 PM	#646
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,019	McAllister and Gibbons must be due for another bout this month or next. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

05-22-2005, 12:31 PM	#650
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	July 1908 beginners The beginners are done for July they go 73-12-2 so not too bad of a month. Moving up to club this month HW - Frank Herald (5-1), Terry Kellar (4-4), Ned Kelly (4-4) MW - Billy Manning (5-0) WW - Jack McGinty (5-0) LW - Eddie Carroll (5-0), Jack Keenan (5-0), Sammy Smith (5-0) FW - Johnny Crowe (5-2), Joe Reilly (4-3-1) BW - Morris Rauch (5-2) Notice Kellar, Kelly and Reilly really set the world on fire against the tomato cans, they should have a long career.

05-19-2005, 02:29 PM	#641
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Also I am unsatisfied with how bad post-prime makes fighters, so I decided to move all of them back to prime and adjust them with the movement in weight chart on cornerwork. When a fighter goes to post-prime I'll adjust them as if they are moving up one weight and then when he goes to end I'll adjust them one more class. This drops them about 1 rating point with each adjustment so that's a little more fair then the seemingly 6 rating point drop with post-prime. When I retire a fighter I will adjust them back to normal.

05-21-2005, 06:04 PM	#648
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Thanks Lee, and it's Mike by the way. Hopefully Andreas will incorporate the gradual decrease into the role playing game.

05-23-2005, 10:32 AM	#651
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	July 1908 title fights Slow month for title bouts with only two scheduled, but a busy month otherwise with 170 main and club division fighters fighting. HW - (LBC) Dominic McCaffrey (21-7-3) vs #1 Joe Jeannette (15-0) MW - (LBA) Tommy Ryan (32-0-1) vs #8 Frank Klaus (12-4-1) ** Frank Craig was the highest ranked MW scheduled to fight this month but both of his last fights were against Ryan and despite great showings the officials of the LBA decided he needed to win a fight before getting another shot at Ryan.

05-23-2005, 10:47 AM	#652
Lee Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Scorched Desert Posts: 4,652	Laying my Money on Jeannette to take the Title from McCaffrey......A unification bout between he and Jack Johnson would be a hot ticket down the road as well.

05-23-2005, 03:43 PM	#654
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,091	Ryan for TKO at 10 or less

05-23-2005, 05:54 PM	#655
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	LBA's new rules for post-prime and end stages The fighters will stay at prime. For post-prime cf b/s -1, hp -1, kd -1 For end stage, endurance -1, def -1, pl/pm -2 Then I will move them back when they retire

05-24-2005, 08:18 PM	#656
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Ryan makes quick work of Klaus July 3, 1908 Tommy Ryan (33-0-1) scored a TKO1 over #8 Frank Klaus (12-5-1) for his 4th defense of the LBA Middleweight title. Ryan dropped Klaus twice and on his way to a third time when the ref stepped in and stopped the fight. On the undercard FW - Johnny Kilbane (10-1) UD10 Tommy Sullivan (11-11-3) HW - Jem Mace (14-8-2) MD10 Dick Matthews (8-1) LW - Willie Ritchie (7-0-1) DRAW8 Willie Fitzgerald (5-0-2) (both fighters at pre for this club fight) LW - Paddy Smith (6-1) MD8 Tim Callahan (7-2) (both fighters at pre for this club fight) HW - John Ferguson (13-17-2) KO8 Jem Stewart (4-20-2) (Ferguson at post and Stewart at end for this club fight)

05-24-2005, 08:39 PM	#657
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,091	WOOW Brillant the Ryans Fight

05-25-2005, 02:23 PM	#658
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Jeannette completes title run undefeated July 22, 1908 Joe Jeannette (16-0) survived a knockdown to score a KO10 over champ Dominic McCaffrey (21-8-3) to win the LBC Heavyweight title. Jeannette dominated the fight from the opening bell winning 5 of the first 6 rounds. McCaffrey showed a little life dropping Jeannette in the early part of round 7, but Jeannette covered up effective and survived the round. Less than a minute into the 10th, Jeannette dropped the champ with a left hook and McCaffrey couldn't beat the count. I had it 86-84 Jeannette at the time of the stoppage. On the undercard WW - George Cole (6-7-3) UD10 William Sullivan (8-3-1) MW - Frank Craig (23-10-2) UD10 Jack Moffat (10-7) BW - Frankie Neil (14-17-2) UD8 Jack Foy (5-3-1) (Neil at post, Foy at pre for this club fight. Foy stepped up to BW) FW - Frank Zimpher (6-1) UD8 Young Byrnes (6-4) (both fighters at pre for this club fight) MW - Bill Slavin (3-20-2) UD10 Dick O'Brien (3-13-1) (Slavin at end for this club fight ... embarrassing loss for O'Brien)

05-26-2005, 10:34 AM	#659
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	End of July 1908 Another month down slow month for title fights but lots of other fights and lots of movement. Fighter Movement HW - Jim McCormick (8-0) up to main LH - Charley Stevenson (4-9) down to club MW - John P. Clow (13-18) down to club WW - Cy Flynn (8-2), Wildcat Ferns (8-1) both up to main LW - Austin Gibbons (16-16-2) back up to main FW - Jimmy Dime (8-0) up to main BW - Dave Sullivan (8-0-1), Cockney Cohen (7-4-2) both up to main Debut Rankings LH - George Byers (9-5-1) A11, C6 LH - Jack Graham (7-8) A27, C18 LH - Harry Baker (4-9-2) A28, C20 LW - Ad Wolgast (9-6) A22, C21 FW - Will Curley (10-5) A13, C14 BW - Harry Tenney (10-3-2) A3, C9 monthly fights attached below, also attaching title lineage for the months title fights. Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

05-30-2005, 09:25 AM	#660
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	August 1908 beginners The beginners are done for August they went 54-13-5 as their numbers start to dwindle a little. Their record was pretty good considering the HW's went a dismal 9-5-3 against the TC's. Moving up this month (note the amount of stellar fighters,not sure how many from this group will make it out of club) HW - J. Barrington (2-5-1) LH - Joe Craig (2-5-1), Yank Kenny (3-4-1), Jack Dillon (5-0) MW - Frank Bosworth (5-0) WW - Fighting Kennedy (5-2) LW - Johnny Clark (5-2), Johnny Summers (5-2) FW - Jack Pearson (3-4-1), Al Wright (4-3-1) BW - Johnny Ritchie (5-0) FLY - Joe McGrath (5-0) ** note for Chris, Bob McAllister remained inactive this month stays stuck at 3-0